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Goal music and clap banners

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Goal music and clap banners  

273 members have voted

  1. 1. Are you in favour of goal music?

    • Yes
      38
    • No
      235

  2. 2. Are you in favour of clap banners?

    • Yes
      49
    • No
      153
    • Prefer to see collection points
      71

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goose2010

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16 minutes ago, bmt said:

I've sent an email/letter to the club to ask about the environmental credentials of clappers. If I get a response, I will follow up with an open letter suggesting reducing their provision to fans. 

 

Will post any updates

i am massively against clappers by the way (or at least on every seat) but what is your question on the environmental aspect? 

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44 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

i am massively against clappers by the way (or at least on every seat) but what is your question on the environmental aspect? 

Whether they've done a cost benefit analysis and what it says. I think they should have pressure put on them from a sustainability perspective (I work in sustainability) to phase them out. Even if it means only providing them to those who want them and still keeping them. I'm sure when we first had them they weren't even recyclable due to the ink used.

 

They won't respond to the atmosphere angle and think there's more of a chance they will engage on sustainability-related concerns because ignoring them makes them look bad.

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goose2010

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6 minutes ago, bmt said:

Whether they've done a cost benefit analysis and what it says. I think they should have pressure put on them from a sustainability perspective (I work in sustainability) to phase them out. Even if it means only providing them to those who want them and still keeping them. I'm sure when we first had them they weren't even recyclable due to the ink used.

 

They won't respond to the atmosphere angle and think there's more of a chance they will engage on sustainability-related concerns because ignoring them makes them look bad.

Same :) i specialise in corrugated papers and closed loop recycling in retail supply chain (it isnt as boring as it sounds!) 

 

Ok i was just curious, i agree they shouldn't do it for all as not all want them. It wouldn't be anything to do with the ink though if anything it would be the coating/varnish but even then they would still be recyclable. 

 

The club will probably come back and send you there full sustainability report that they will need to follow and as long as the supplier of the clappers is FSC certified the club wont need to do anything else. 

 

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52 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

Same :) i specialise in corrugated papers and closed loop recycling in retail supply chain (it isnt as boring as it sounds!) 

 

Ok i was just curious, i agree they shouldn't do it for all as not all want them. It wouldn't be anything to do with the ink though if anything it would be the coating/varnish but even then they would still be recyclable. 

 

The club will probably come back and send you there full sustainability report that they will need to follow and as long as the supplier of the clappers is FSC certified the club wont need to do anything else. 

 

Fair then you will know much better than me. And yes I meant the coating rather than ink; may have been a rumour but definitely heard they weren't widely recyclable. 

 

I worked on the development of a sustainability strategy for a premier league club (still yet to be published), and public sustainability reports are very rare in football. They may well just not give a proper answer and they definitely don't have to do anything else but imo anything that asks more questions about clappers is better (I hate them).

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18 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

We are yeah.

 

4 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

Good on you but they aint arsed. Their order for them has gone in.

Extremely dissapointed by this, why do we have to be different? I assume then there isn't even going to be some sort of compromise, such as collection points and playing the goal music before or after games. This was the ideal opportunity (following relegation) to refresh the matchday experience offering, and to make it more balanced for the general fanbase. 

 

Just as a reminder, these are the club's own words on the clappers prior to last season - the environmental aspect clearly not important enough to them aside from anything else? @bmt

 

Fans attending games will notice that there will be no clap banners, as the club works with the feedback given to it by supporters during consultations to shape a move towards alternative and more sustainable ways of improving the matchday atmosphere.

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2 minutes ago, AlexFT said:

 

Extremely dissapointed by this, why do we have to be different? I assume then there isn't even going to be some sort of compromise, such as collection points and playing the goal music before or after games. This was the ideal opportunity (following relegation) to refresh the matchday experience offering, and to make it more balanced for the general fanbase. 

 

Just as a reminder, these are the club's own words on the clappers prior to last season - the environmental aspect clearly not important enough to them aside from anything else?

 

Fans attending games will notice that there will be no clap banners, as the club works with the feedback given to it by supporters during consultations to shape a move towards alternative and more sustainable ways of improving the matchday atmosphere.

True, imagine if there was a way of clapping without using clappers....what a world that would be.

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I remember having similar conversations around Chelsea Dagger when that was our goal music. It was fan pressure and a demand to have something connected to the city that eventually got it changed to Fire.

 

It says something that even watching grown men bounce around to that after goals against Yeovil and Hereford was preferable to the absolute dirge we have to endure now.

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4 minutes ago, AlexFT said:

 

Extremely dissapointed by this, why do we have to be different? I assume then there isn't even going to be some sort of compromise, such as collection points and playing the goal music before or after games. This was the ideal opportunity (following relegation) to refresh the matchday experience offering, and to make it more balanced for the general fanbase. 

 

Just as a reminder, these are the club's own words on the clappers prior to last season - the environmental aspect clearly not important enough to them aside from anything else? @bmt

 

Fans attending games will notice that there will be no clap banners, as the club works with the feedback given to it by supporters during consultations to shape a move towards alternative and more sustainable ways of improving the matchday atmosphere.

I only know this due to a contact at the printers. The can’t believe their luck having us spaff huge money every other week on cardboard.

 

The collection point again was just lip service to UFS at a meeting. Long list of believe it when we see it lines from the club.

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4 hours ago, goose2010 said:

i am massively against clappers by the way (or at least on every seat) but what is your question on the environmental aspect? 

Their end of season/financial account cited reducing the use of plastic. the clappers are partly laminated, not recyclable I believe 

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1 hour ago, SemperEadem said:

I only know this due to a contact at the printers. The can’t believe their luck having us spaff huge money every other week on cardboard.

 

The collection point again was just lip service to UFS at a meeting. Long list of believe it when we see it lines from the club.

Especially with home attendances set to fluctuate compared to PL home games, surely it doesn’t make sense to put them on every seat every time.

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12 hours ago, AlexFT said:

 

Extremely dissapointed by this, why do we have to be different? I assume then there isn't even going to be some sort of compromise, such as collection points and playing the goal music before or after games. This was the ideal opportunity (following relegation) to refresh the matchday experience offering, and to make it more balanced for the general fanbase. 

 

Just as a reminder, these are the club's own words on the clappers prior to last season - the environmental aspect clearly not important enough to them aside from anything else? @bmt

 

Fans attending games will notice that there will be no clap banners, as the club works with the feedback given to it by supporters during consultations to shape a move towards alternative and more sustainable ways of improving the matchday atmosphere.

The way the club see it, relegation means they have to invest more in the matchday experience to keep people coming back. The problem is that, to them, this would appear to mean even less authenticity and even more tacky gimmicks.

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The KP is as quiet as a bloody library without the clappers. I actually think we need them with our fan base, of mostly families, to create any sort of atmosphere. 

 

In an ideal world we would have more singing fans, but we don't, and the games this season without the clappers have been so dead its been embarrassing. 

 

I think a quiet stadium is worse for our reputation than the clappers personally. 

 

Goal music on the other hand, I hate and can go! 

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1 hour ago, Voll Blau said:

The way the club see it, relegation means they have to invest more in the matchday experience to keep people coming back. The problem is that, to them, this would appear to mean even less authenticity and even more tacky gimmicks.

This is a good point and one I hadn’t really thought about. In recent times, I had felt the club were looking to become more engaged in supporter feedback but the continuation of goal music and clappers (without any compromise or alternative solution) gives off an air of stubbornness to me. It’s why I said the matchday experience needs to be more balanced, because currently it makes a fair amount of the fanbase feel disillusioned with the club.

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2 hours ago, Foxhateram said:

The KP is as quiet as a bloody library without the clappers. I actually think we need them with our fan base, of mostly families, to create any sort of atmosphere. 

 

In an ideal world we would have more singing fans, but we don't, and the games this season without the clappers have been so dead its been embarrassing. 

 

I think a quiet stadium is worse for our reputation than the clappers personally. 

 

Goal music on the other hand, I hate and can go! 

Seemed alright against forest/ spurs without them! It’s a total myth that we need them 

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2 hours ago, Foxhateram said:

The KP is as quiet as a bloody library without the clappers. I actually think we need them with our fan base, of mostly families, to create any sort of atmosphere. 

 

In an ideal world we would have more singing fans, but we don't, and the games this season without the clappers have been so dead its been embarrassing. 

 

I think a quiet stadium is worse for our reputation than the clappers personally. 

 

Goal music on the other hand, I hate and can go! 

Sorry but this isn’t true. We had clappers for the whole of 2021/22 and the atmosphere was dreadful. 
 

Games like Forest, Tottenham and even the first half against Aston Villa proved why they’re not needed. 

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2 hours ago, Foxhateram said:

The KP is as quiet as a bloody library without the clappers. I actually think we need them with our fan base, of mostly families, to create any sort of atmosphere. 

 

In an ideal world we would have more singing fans, but we don't, and the games this season without the clappers have been so dead its been embarrassing. 

 

I think a quiet stadium is worse for our reputation than the clappers personally. 

 

Goal music on the other hand, I hate and can go! 

Clappers don't create atmosphere do they? Its just aimless noise, atmosphere is people singing or even just as a start clapping your hands which seems crazy to me that people can't do it when they use a clapper.

 

We're going to have a generation of fans that think whacking a clapper is creating an atmosphere!

 

I'm excited about going Sunday but I reckon it will be less than 5 mins before I realise how much I hate home games again, probably when FanCam comes on!

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20 hours ago, bmt said:

I've sent an email/letter to the club to ask about the environmental credentials of clappers. If I get a response, I will follow up with an open letter suggesting reducing their provision to fans. 

 

Will post any updates

You won’t.

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