Popular Post coolhandfox Posted 15 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 15 July 2023 On 11/07/2023 at 15:41, Babylon said: It's not really about downing tools, it's about not being at your maximum. I don't think Tielemen's downed tools, or Maddison or anyone else. But there is absolutely no way they were playing to their maximum, it doesn't even have to be intentional, it's a natural instinct to knowing your time is up. This was a massive contribution to our relegation in my eyes. 7 players out of contract, added too by Maddison what he’s big move and both Praet and Soumare wanting away. 10 members of a 25 man squad with a foot out of the door. in elite sport you only have to be 1 or 2% off and you are found out. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 15 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 15 July 2023 10 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: This was a massive contribution to our relegation in my eyes. 7 players out of contract, added too by Maddison what he’s big move and both Praet and Soumare wanting away. 10 members of a 25 man squad with a foot out of the door. in elite sport you only have to be 1 or 2% off and you are found out. Yeah, it's why we need Praet, Ndidi, Choudhury, possibly Albrighton moving on too this summer. Iheanacho it would be galling to lose on a free but I do think his goals could be worth risking him going on a free, if nobody is willing to pay north of £10m for him. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 20 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: This was a massive contribution to our relegation in my eyes. 7 players out of contract, added too by Maddison what he’s big move and both Praet and Soumare wanting away. 10 members of a 25 man squad with a foot out of the door. in elite sport you only have to be 1 or 2% off and you are found out. Do we know that Soumare wants to leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 1 minute ago, hackneyfox said: Do we know that Soumare wants to leave? We had a offer for him. Very rare now days for a club to make a offer without speaking to the player first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 34 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: We had a offer for him. Very rare now days for a club to make a offer without speaking to the player first No thread or anything online about this. Who offered and how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kp1984 Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 37 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: We had a offer for him. Very rare now days for a club to make a offer without speaking to the player first I bloody hope he wants to leave he’s terrible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 14 minutes ago, Gerard said: No thread or anything online about this. Who offered and how much? Last summer not this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Fox Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 37 minutes ago, Gerard said: No thread or anything online about this. Who offered and how much? Pretty sure it was Monaco for £17m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Fox Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 Just now, Hamilton Fox said: Pretty sure it was Monaco for £17m Last summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 1 hour ago, coolhandfox said: We had a offer for him. Very rare now days for a club to make a offer without speaking to the player first This is very wrong and happens way too often. It unsettles players and disrespects the Club who Owns his Contract. EUFA should step in and make a ruling that Players or Agents who do it will be banned for a period. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 The reason Uefa don't do anything is because it's virtually impossible to police it. That's why agents are part of the game. They represent multiple clients so no club can ever say for sure who they're offering up. And let's be honest nobody gives a shit when it's working in your clubs interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 1 hour ago, Clever Fox said: This is very wrong and happens way too often. It unsettles players and disrespects the Club who Owns his Contract. EUFA should step in and make a ruling that Players or Agents who do it will be banned for a period. Happen 99% of the time. how do you stop it in the modern era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 1 hour ago, Clever Fox said: This is very wrong and happens way too often. It unsettles players and disrespects the Club who Owns his Contract. EUFA should step in and make a ruling that Players or Agents who do it will be banned for a period. This is the whole point, they don’t speak to the player, they are speaking to their agent, hence no rules are broken, at least that was my understanding 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 2 hours ago, Clever Fox said: This is very wrong and happens way too often. It unsettles players and disrespects the Club who Owns his Contract. EUFA should step in and make a ruling that Players or Agents who do it will be banned for a period. It happens on 99.999999% of transfers and clubs are quite happy about it because it means they don’t waste their time chasing players that don’t want to come to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 (edited) It is very wrong, but I dont know how it could be fixed, and if clubs even want it fixed, no club wants it leaked they bid for a player then the player turns the move down like used to happen a lot. If a club blacklisted any clubs that didnt speak to them first, they would end up blacklisting way too many clubs. The only potential way would be if football authorities were required to be an intermediate in offers, and if a club reported a player's head turn without any request made through the proper channels, then the player would be banned from joining another club unless they revealed the contacting party in which case the contacting party would get a transfer ban instead. But even then they could contact the agent and then pretend the official contact (providing the player could hide his interest in leaving) is the initial contact so it would still be abused. So yeah impossible I think. Edited 15 July 2023 by Chrysalis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 15 July 2023 Share Posted 15 July 2023 The only ones it benefits is the big clubs and the Agents. I don't believe any club like it but partake in it because everyone else is doing it. Agents do it to bump up their earnings with no thought for the Clubs. As I said the only ones who can stop it is EUFA. and they should do more to prevent it in the best interests of the Clubs and game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 18 July 2023 Share Posted 18 July 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 18 July 2023 Share Posted 18 July 2023 What is the price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordersfox Posted 18 July 2023 Share Posted 18 July 2023 1 minute ago, mozartfox said: What is the price? Quoted as between £10m-£15m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mozartfox Posted 18 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 18 July 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bordersfox said: Quoted as between £10m-£15m. Sadly I think we should sell with just one year left on his contract. Edited 18 July 2023 by mozartfox 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Fannieri Posted 18 July 2023 Share Posted 18 July 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Sadly I think we should sell with just one year left on his contract. Agreed especially if it helps generate funds to reinvest in players. We cannot afford to repeat the mistakes of last season when we kept hold of players who had one eye on the exit door and as a result performance levels dropped off. Edited 18 July 2023 by Claudio Fannieri 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox85 Posted 18 July 2023 Share Posted 18 July 2023 Why would you do any business with a club that broke FFp while you was 1 or 3 teams relegated while the premier league slept on punishing them. 110 Million to everton no less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 18 July 2023 Share Posted 18 July 2023 Here's the thing, given the option of: - Kel signs a new contract, stays, and we go with Vardy, Daka and Iheanacho or - We sell Kel, buy Piroe, and go with Vardy, Daka and Piroe Which would people go for?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 18 July 2023 Share Posted 18 July 2023 This sale will probably fund a move for Piroe... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-sodapop Posted 18 July 2023 Share Posted 18 July 2023 3 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: Here's the thing, given the option of: - Kel signs a new contract, stays, and we go with Vardy, Daka and Iheanacho or - We sell Kel, buy Piroe, and go with Vardy, Daka and Piroe Which would people go for?? Given that he only has a year left on his contract, begrudgingly option two. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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