Willy Caballero confirmed as Assistant Manager

[EnderbyFox]

Any Willy pics uploaded by the club yet?

[volpeazzurro]

4 hours ago, Lillehamring said:

There are plenty of sources on the Internet if you look, some better than others. Even if you just count the number of players that arrived during his tenure and check the rough transfer fees you'll get there.

[volpeazzurro]

2 hours ago, Beachyboy said:

Brentford and Brighton are where they are due to mindset, the first season we are back in the premiership, I'd suggest the target wouldn't be survival but top 10. Burnley have the same ambitious mindset, Bournemouth are trying to look upwards. I wouldn't be surprised if one out of those two finished top 10 next season. With the right decisions and transfers getting back to 8th is possible by the end of Merescas 3 year contract.

You can never say never, we're living proof if ever an example was needed. However, we need another really good influx of buy low sell high transfers like our old model to achieve it. I do absolutely agree regarding mindset however, that's been a real weakness during the last few years.

[Trav Le Bleu]

Willy 

[Levi Port]

Hearing/ reading a lot of good regarding Willy. Chelsea, Man City and Saints fans all speak highly of him as a Man.
 

Hopefully can make the step into being the second man in charge. He’ll be hungry and willing to prove himself in that roll, and we need people like that at the club right now. 

Edited 10 July 2023 by Levi Port

[MPH]

1 hour ago, filbertway said:

Alright 14 hours might have been an exaggeration, but you must surely accept there is difference between helping out with sessions and being a full time coach? If not then we just don't have the common ground to come to an agreement

 

 

I'd much rather have someone completely focused on planning, running and looking after the keepers. So my assistant manager can concentrate on his actual job. 

 

There doesn’t always have to be an agreement. People are allowed  to discuss their opinion and it’s ok if there are still differences.

 

 

 

 

Steve Walsh  is a prime example of someone who led every training session but was an Assistant manager.

 

 

we don’t have to get so caught up on title- it’s how the jobs are allocated, is the main thing. 

[Scanchez]

On 09/07/2023 at 10:03, ShepshedFox1884 said:

Is this a joke 

It'd be a pretty weird one if it is.

[Scanchez]

I'm hearing a lot of good things about willy.

It does my confidence no end of good.

[filbertway]

4 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

There doesn’t always have to be an agreement. People are allowed  to discuss their opinion and it’s ok if there are still differences.

 

 

 

 

Steve Walsh  is a prime example of someone who led every training session but was an Assistant manager.

 

 

we don’t have to get so caught up on title- it’s how the jobs are allocated, is the main thing. 

 

I assume you mean Shakey

 

Shakey and Walsh shared assistant manager duties. Shakey was first team coach and Walsh was head of recruitment. Then they pitched in as co-assistant managers.

 

Either way, I see your point.

 

Personally it makes more sense to me to have a specialist coach and then someone who can fully focus on whatever Enzo requires from his assistant manager.

 

 

 

 

 

[sacreblueits442]

53 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

There doesn’t always have to be an agreement. People are allowed  to discuss their opinion and it’s ok if there are still differences.

 

 

 

 

Steve Walsh  is a prime example of someone who led every training session but was an Assistant manager.

 

 

we don’t have to get so caught up on title- it’s how the jobs are allocated, is the main thing. 

...the role of an Assistant Manager...!!!

The assistant manager will need to communicate with the rest of the coaching staff, helping to co-ordinate the organisation of training, sessions with the conditioning coach, analysis sessions and communication with the media team.

  Doesn't seem to warrant too many long days in a week.

[Danizen]

2 hours ago, EnderbyFox said:

Any Willy pics uploaded by the club yet?

No but speak to 'unnamed BBC presenter', if that's your sort of thing 😉 

[MPH]

2 hours ago, filbertway said:

 

I assume you mean Shakey

 

Shakey and Walsh shared assistant manager duties. Shakey was first team coach and Walsh was head of recruitment. Then they pitched in as co-assistant managers.

 

Either way, I see your point.

 

Personally it makes more sense to me to have a specialist coach and then someone who can fully focus on whatever Enzo requires from his assistant manager.

 

 

 

 

 

 Yes indeed I meant shakey. Who could forget two balls shakey?

[Lillehamring]

7 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

There are plenty of sources on the Internet if you look, some better than others. Even if you just count the number of players that arrived during his tenure and check the rough transfer fees you'll get there.

No, i meant for the highlighted text:

 

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Rodgers and his ways have incredibly damaged us for years to come.

At best this is guess work - we've no idea what the long term implications of his tenure are, and little chance of tying anything specifically to his time here. So many factors led us to this situation, to single out BR for any and all future difficulties is unfair and naive.

[STUHILL]

8 hours ago, EnderbyFox said:

Any Willy pics uploaded by the club yet?

Check your inbox 

[Collymore]

Willy's growing on me after sleeping on it.

[KFS]

2 hours ago, Collymore said:

Willy's growing on me after sleeping on it.

Morning glory? 

[Daggers]

On 10/07/2023 at 08:57, davieG said:

…

• Kept a … notebook on the bench

Shit. Here we go again. 

[Weller Wing]

Will Willy help us keep clean sheets?

Will he help us be more penetrative if we face stiff opposition?

Can he help our wingers dribble any better?

Have we got any pre season games against Staines or Cockermouth?

 

There's plenty more questions,  I'm sure

[volpeazzurro]

10 hours ago, Lillehamring said:

No, i meant for the highlighted text:

 

At best this is guess work - we've no idea what the long term implications of his tenure are, and little chance of tying anything specifically to his time here. So many factors led us to this situation, to single out BR for any and all future difficulties is unfair and naive.

Hardly guesswork is it. When Rodgers arrived he inherited a very good squad of players. Admittedly, we are and will most likely always be a team that has to sell to buy, most teams have to be. However, Rodgers seemingly infiltrated more than one aspect of the club, you can't tell me that he didn't have a say in Congerton's recruitment. Medical staff also? 

 

From a working model of buying young fairly unknown talent and later selling high, look at the subsequent recruitment during his tenure with the exception of Fofana? We were a confident club vying for a regular top 6 to 8 finish. We were arguably better in Europe under Ranieri and Shakespeare!

 

His recruitment, square pegs round holes player selections, poor tactics and obsessional antiquated style of supposed possession football, combined with his constant maligning of his players, owners and even supporters, and general negativity led to us being relegated! Admittedly amongst other things it was the boards fault that they didn't rid themselves of him much sooner, they'd blindly trusted him and believed in his blarney. I still maintain Vichai would have seen right through his sharp shit and dumped him long before. 

 

With the exception of Barnes, we now don't have any assets of real to sell and even had to sell Maddison on the cheap. None of his recruitment or loan signings have shone through.

 

A total rebuild, in the sort way we have to do it takes several years ie like Pearson, Puel and to a lesser extent Ranieri. There's also an element of risk as always along the way.

 

Practically speaking, I still maintain that Rodgers, 'almost' single handedly has damaged our club dreadfully and it's not a wild assumption to infer that it's going to take a long long time to get back to the heady days, if ever, where we could consider ourselves top 6/8 material. The previous three managers legacy has been largely broken.

[bald reynard]

On 09/07/2023 at 15:25, Sambiasso said:

Not as player coach, for him to be announced as assistant was out the blue. 

 

Likely to be another coach join up, not heard any names atm.

This one could be Cambiasso. We know Maresca was on his Coaching course in Italy with him. I'm sure Caballero will know him well - they're  both Argentinians, the same age and played together for Argentina.

 

As far as I know, EC isn't in work atm, having finished as Coach with the Colombia national team 18  months ago. And of course if EM wanted to cement his relationship with City fans, Cambiasso coming back, would be the icing on the cake?!

Edited 11 July 2023 by bald reynard

[Daggers]

On 09/07/2023 at 21:16, urban.spaceman said:

FoxesTalk:

worrying lack of coaching experience in the coaching team.

 

Also FoxesTalk:

where Cambiasso

So, you're saying Cambiasso is coming too?

 

The Willy effect in action!

 

[Lillehamring]

2 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

Hardly guesswork is it. When Rodgers arrived he inherited a very good squad of players. Admittedly, we are and will most likely always be a team that has to sell to buy, most teams have to be. However, Rodgers seemingly infiltrated more than one aspect of the club, you can't tell me that he didn't have a say in Congerton's recruitment. Medical staff also? 

 

From a working model of buying young fairly unknown talent and later selling high, look at the subsequent recruitment during his tenure with the exception of Fofana? We were a confident club vying for a regular top 6 to 8 finish. We were arguably better in Europe under Ranieri and Shakespeare!

 

His recruitment, square pegs round holes player selections, poor tactics and obsessional antiquated style of supposed possession football, combined with his constant maligning of his players, owners and even supporters, and general negativity led to us being relegated! Admittedly amongst other things it was the boards fault that they didn't rid themselves of him much sooner, they'd blindly trusted him and believed in his blarney. I still maintain Vichai would have seen right through his sharp shit and dumped him long before. 

 

With the exception of Barnes, we now don't have any assets of real to sell and even had to sell Maddison on the cheap. None of his recruitment or loan signings have shone through.

 

A total rebuild, in the sort way we have to do it takes several years ie like Pearson, Puel and to a lesser extent Ranieri. There's also an element of risk as always along the way.

 

Practically speaking, I still maintain that Rodgers, 'almost' single handedly has damaged our club dreadfully and it's not a wild assumption to infer that it's going to take a long long time to get back to the heady days, if ever, where we could consider ourselves top 6/8 material. The previous three managers legacy has been largely broken.

All well and good, but this activity, as it stands is all in the past - your original comment said 'for years to come' - which remains to be seen.  It is entirely possible that what has happened under BR's stewardship could end up having numerous silver linings... we don't know, but to suggest that we are a damaged club for years to come is the height of pessimism and i suspect is far from a universal opinion.

[sacreblueits442]

1 hour ago, Lillehamring said:

All well and good, but this activity, as it stands is all in the past - your original comment said 'for years to come' - which remains to be seen.  It is entirely possible that what has happened under BR's stewardship could end up having numerous silver linings... we don't know, but to suggest that we are a damaged club for years to come is the height of pessimism and i suspect is far from a universal opinion.

...let us just say it has set us back a year (while we are in the second tier)!!!

And then if promoted, we will be back in a position where we were two seasons before. Our present enlightened approach is the polar opposite of what we sought to do last season.

[Foxy-Lady]

Bit of wishful thinking but, out of interest, does this mean we have "finally" seen the back of Mike Stowell as i havent seen anything communicated on this...?

Keeping my fingers crossed ive missed something...!

 

[st albans fox]

7 minutes ago, Foxy-Lady said:

Bit of wishful thinking but, out of interest, does this mean we have "finally" seen the back of Mike Stowell as i havent seen anything communicated on this...?

Keeping my fingers crossed ive missed something...!

 

Mike has gone (with Sadler) 

Before maresca appointed his backroom staff - you must have missed it !

Edited 11 July 2023 by st albans fox