Happy Fox Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 37 minutes ago, LinekersLugs said: Was done days ago the issue was the finance company underwriting the cash city are kicking all deals down the road banking on premier league cash coming back to levels of the last few years I’m not cribbing it , but given we have recieved a lot of cash from sales it seems risky to me it’s clear cash is an issue for the owner and FFP rules have wiped us out we dreamed big , stuck with Rodger’s and now walk in a financial swamp We need new ownership, if we get promoted, Top should sell us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 40 minutes ago, LinekersLugs said: Was done days ago the issue was the finance company underwriting the cash city are kicking all deals down the road banking on premier league cash coming back to levels of the last few years I’m not cribbing it , but given we have recieved a lot of cash from sales it seems risky to me it’s clear cash is an issue for the owner and FFP rules have wiped us out we dreamed big , stuck with Rodger’s and now walk in a financial swamp Have we received a lot of cash from sales, or are we just dealing with clubs doing exactly the same as what we are doing? I doubt Newcastle or Spurs have done either of their amounts up front! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 2 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: We need new ownership, if we get promoted, Top should sell us. The most in depth review I’ve seen of the current predicament. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 4 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: We need new ownership, if we get promoted, Top should sell us. ...we need better stewardship, not different owners!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 2 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...we need better stewardship, not different owners!!! Any steward is there at the behest of the owners, don’t be silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mozartfox Posted 28 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 28 July 2023 3 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...we need better stewardship, not different owners!!! This. This Club with someone like Edu on board for example, would be in a different place. Top and King Power are extremely supportive and we should never forget this. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Any steward is there at the behest of the owners, don’t be silly. .. but they can be changed on review, it is not a job for life!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 Just now, sacreblueits442 said: .. but they can be changed on review, it is not a job for life!!! Yes and even then it’s on the owners discretion’s- the buck has to stop at the top. Not that I am saying they should go! They like everyone deserve a chance of retribution! (Especially them in fact) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, mozartfox said: This. This Club with someone like Edu on board for example, would be in a different place. Top and King Power are extremely supportive and we should never forget this. Easy to forget Edu has had 600m + to spend at Arsenal making life a little easier. Edited 28 July 2023 by coolhandfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 Just now, coolhandfox said: Easy to forget Edu has had 500m + to spend at Arsenal making life a little easier. Yes - but it’s all relative i.e. having someone with some nonce over-seeing football operations. This whether you have 1m or 200m to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ian__marshall Posted 28 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 28 July 2023 1 minute ago, mozartfox said: Yes - but it’s all relative i.e. having someone with some nonce over-seeing football operations. This whether you have 1m or 200m to spend. Not sure that'd really help the current situation 😂 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Walkerfox Posted 28 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 28 July 2023 1 hour ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...we need better stewardship, not different owners!!! Our “owner” has literally dragged the whole squad over to Thailand so he can show off to all his mates and the three Leicester fans over there. This is whilst playing a grand total of one game to get us up to speed for the start of the championship season, a league we’re in because he left the running of the club to his incompetent little lap dog. I’d love new owners to be honest. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 9 minutes ago, Walkerfox said: Our “owner” has literally dragged the whole squad over to Thailand so he can show off to all his mates and the three Leicester fans over there. This is whilst playing a grand total of one game to get us up to speed for the start of the championship season, a league we’re in because he left the running of the club to his incompetent little lap dog. I’d love new owners to be honest. Agreed fully, we got lucky with Maresca a recommendation from another owner to Top the whole board needs a revamp including the ownership. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Happy Fox said: Agreed fully, we got lucky with Maresca a recommendation from another owner to Top the whole board needs a revamp including the ownership. ...true with the acquiring of Maresca, but Rudkin was there when they took over and there is an overreliance on him to plot a direction for this club!!! He is limited in his knowledge of the game and should not be in this position, it is far too important to trust him in it. If Susan Whelan needs to come in to get deals over the line then you can see he is not fit for purpose. Macia or Walsh would have been more suitable for the role Edited 28 July 2023 by sacreblueits442 Spelling error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adejo92 Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 The way this has dragged on this blokes nailed on to be a flop if/when he ever does sign. Proper bored of this now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 titles in 7 years Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 Pleased we're sticking to FFP unlike every other club. We'll win the Fair Play award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillehamring Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 2 hours ago, Happy Fox said: We need new ownership, if we get promoted, Top should sell us. Wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference to our FFP situation.... And the trouble with football owners is that you just don't know what you're going to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 3 hours ago, LinekersLugs said: Was done days ago the issue was the finance company underwriting the cash city are kicking all deals down the road banking on premier league cash coming back to levels of the last few years I’m not cribbing it , but given we have recieved a lot of cash from sales it seems risky to me it’s clear cash is an issue for the owner and FFP rules have wiped us out we dreamed big , stuck with Rodger’s and now walk in a financial swamp How do you mean cash is an issue for the owner? Also hasn’t a new FFP cycle started this summer? Surely we shouldn’t be wiped out already. I found it interesting how Guillem mentioned on the podcast there’s not much money at the moment but expects a few to leave to make money as there is interest from Serie A and La Liga. At the time presumed he got his facts wrong due to two big sales, clearly Enzo has mentioned it to him. As always appreciate the info mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Lillehamring said: Wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference to our FFP situation.... And the trouble with football owners is that you just don't know what you're going to get. Either way it would have to be someone that could afford us or take us to the next level on par with Top or better. Edited 28 July 2023 by Happy Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillehamring Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 7 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: Either way it would have to be someone that could afford us or take us to the next level on par with Top or better. I don't think KP's problem, financially, is a lack of funds - after all they wrote off 200M in debt - as newcastle are discovering, it's the FFP trap that's designed to keep low-income clubs off the top table. So even if it was an nation-state-oilmagnate buy out, if our FFP is on the cusp now, it still would be for them - the only way to get out of it is to earn more or spend less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluetintedspecs Posted 28 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 28 July 2023 3 hours ago, Happy Fox said: We need new ownership, if we get promoted, Top should sell us. I feel the same way about some of our fanbase tbh 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolucklcfc Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 1 minute ago, Lillehamring said: I don't think KP's problem, financially, is a lack of funds - after all they wrote off 200M in debt - as newcastle are discovering, it's the FFP trap that's designed to keep low-income clubs off the top table. So even if it was an nation-state-oilmagnate buy out, if our FFP is on the cusp now, it still would be for them - the only way to get out of it is to earn more or spend less. I think it was said 2/3 years ago that budget wise without FFP we would have been around mid table in the prem. so I agree, I don’t think KP are skint but this FFP is effecting everyone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premier blues Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 1 hour ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...true with the acquiring of Maresca, but Rudkin was there when they took over and there is an overreliance on him to plot a direction for this club!!! He is limited in his knowledge of the game and should not be in this position, it is far too important to trust him in it. If Susan Wheeler needs to come in to get deals over the line then you can see he is not fit for purpose. Macia or Waslh would have been more suitable for the role Who is the Susan Wheeler woman and is Waslh some Polish scout or something? Just asking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 4 hours ago, LinekersLugs said: Was done days ago the issue was the finance company underwriting the cash city are kicking all deals down the road banking on premier league cash coming back to levels of the last few years I’m not cribbing it , but given we have recieved a lot of cash from sales it seems risky to me it’s clear cash is an issue for the owner and FFP rules have wiped us out we dreamed big , stuck with Rodger’s and now walk in a financial swamp This whole post just makes little sense. All deals are kicked down the road, as in terms of the accounts the cost of the players is mortised over the length of their contract. FFP rules have wiped us out? How exactly? And how is it a cash issue for the owner, if FFP is limiting what we can spend it has nothing to do with their cash. And if they have no money, they wouldn't' write of £200m of loans last season. Now, if you'd said we are about to re-arrange the financing agreement, that's probably a bit more likely. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dames Posted 28 July 2023 Share Posted 28 July 2023 47 minutes ago, Lillehamring said: I don't think KP's problem, financially, is a lack of funds - after all they wrote off 200M in debt - as newcastle are discovering, it's the FFP trap that's designed to keep low-income clubs off the top table. So even if it was an nation-state-oilmagnate buy out, if our FFP is on the cusp now, it still would be for them - the only way to get out of it is to earn more or spend less. They've not wrote it off they've just shifted it into shares. They'll get it back when they sell (providing we get promoted). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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