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15 minutes ago, Countryfox said:

 

Jason and the Argonauts ..  Ray Harryhausen at his finest...   way ahead of his time.     And not a bad film ..

 

Oh ..  sorry peeps ...   got fook all to do with our on off new signing  Cherry Cheesecake ..  

 

Just a bit of idle chatter to fill in the time ...  :thumbup:

Completely off topic.

 

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Being in a similar line of work and regularly identifying business needs, running procurement exercises, negotiating  drafting and agreeing terms in what are much more complicated agreements than in football, I can assure you all that it takes time to get these things over the line. Whilst I negotiate very complex agreements  once we are down to the 2 parties, it's the tern6s that take time to agree. But in football, the terms will be somewhat simpler but with large £s at stake and considerable risk but....  you never have just 2 parties. There are 2 ( maybe 3 or 4 clubs)  sets of agents, lawyers and the player himself all with a part to play). After initial identification of targets, there will be 2 or 3 targets for each position identified and in sounding out availability or in having initial talks, some press leaks will occur and we may get linked to a player who is our number 2 target. This is a player the club will be monitoring but holding off on pending progress on the 1st target. That 1st target may or may not be released by the club. They may want to wait and see how their own cover is panning out, they may be yet to decide whether we are the best option ( if a loan etc). The player will have a say. He will have preferences and that may change based on pressure from his agents or other factors. As you hold fire for your number 1 choice, you see your number 2 target isn't moving anywhere so you decide to hold off another week or 2. But that number 2 targets name has been in the transfer thread for 3 weeks now. Things move on and number 1 target is looking less likely so tou restart talks with number 2 target and start to have talks with number 3 target. Number 3 target's name now gets leaked and a thread appears on foxestalk. It's been 4 weeks now, there are 3 names on foxes talk. Eventually number 1 target falls through or you decide its too risky to pursue as time is moving on and eventually you agree in principle with number 2 or 3 target, the club, player agents but only after stepping up commercial talks and getting to a rough agreement in principle. You then have the finer details, league paperwork, medicals etc plus time to pull together a press statement. In some cases, on day 1 , the club says a player is available, the player wants to come, his agents are no issue and it only takes a week or so to agree terms. But in many cases it's not that easy as so many parties are involved in the process and it only takes 1 to hold it all up. If you try to force the issue too early, you risk an opposite party walking away when a bit more patience was required. Too much patience and you miss your 2nd or 3rd choice. Its all a balancing act. Nobody  including me, can really comment on how well the LCFC recruitment team  are performing or otherwise. We don't even know 5% of what is going on so its all conjecture. Remember also, all of that is for 1 position. You are also repeating this for other positions whilst also trying g to move players out the club and having reverse negotiations. Depending on how that is going g impacts your spend budget on incoming. Its likely very fast paced, and you need to be agile and able to change approach on a daily basis. Whilst on here it feels like years are passing, I bet every day is relentless for those trying to do the business. 

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Being in a similar line of work and regularly identifying business needs, running procurement exercises, negotiating  drafting and agreeing terms in what are much more complicated agreements than in football, I can assure you all that it takes time to get these things over the line. Whilst I negotiate very complex agreements  once we are down to the 2 parties, it's the tern6s that take time to agree. But in football, the terms will be somewhat simpler but with large £s at stake and considerable risk but....  you never have just 2 parties. There are 2 ( maybe 3 or 4 clubs)  sets of agents, lawyers and the player himself all with a part to play). After initial identification of targets, there will be 2 or 3 targets for each position identified and in sounding out availability or in having initial talks, some press leaks will occur and we may get linked to a player who is our number 2 target. This is a player the club will be monitoring but holding off on pending progress on the 1st target. That 1st target may or may not be released by the club. They may want to wait and see how their own cover is panning out, they may be yet to decide whether we are the best option ( if a loan etc). The player will have a say. He will have preferences and that may change based on pressure from his agents or other factors. As you hold fire for your number 1 choice, you see your number 2 target isn't moving anywhere so you decide to hold off another week or 2. But that number 2 targets name has been in the transfer thread for 3 weeks now. Things move on and number 1 target is looking less likely so tou restart talks with number 2 target and start to have talks with number 3 target. Number 3 target's name now gets leaked and a thread appears on foxestalk. It's been 4 weeks now, there are 3 names on foxes talk. Eventually number 1 target falls through or you decide its too risky to pursue as time is moving on and eventually you agree in principle with number 2 or 3 target, the club, player agents but only after stepping up commercial talks and getting to a rough agreement in principle. You then have the finer details, league paperwork, medicals etc plus time to pull together a press statement. In some cases, on day 1 , the club says a player is available, the player wants to come, his agents are no issue and it only takes a week or so to agree terms. But in many cases it's not that easy as so many parties are involved in the process and it only takes 1 to hold it all up. If you try to force the issue too early, you risk an opposite party walking away when a bit more patience was required. Too much patience and you miss your 2nd or 3rd choice. Its all a balancing act. Nobody  including me, can really comment on how well the LCFC recruitment team  are performing or otherwise. We don't even know 5% of what is going on so its all conjecture. Remember also, all of that is for 1 position. You are also repeating this for other positions whilst also trying g to move players out the club and having reverse negotiations. Depending on how that is going g impacts your spend budget on incoming. Its likely very fast paced, and you need to be agile and able to change approach on a daily basis. Whilst on here it feels like years are passing, I bet every day is relentless for those trying to do the business. 

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20 minutes ago, Reginaldo said:

You work on Leicester market and this isn’t LinkdIn

Couldn't be further from truth but I won't bite. 

 

iI f you don't want to read it, just spend 10 minutes scrolling past it. 

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25 minutes ago, Bagworthblue said:

Being in a similar line of work and regularly identifying business needs, running procurement exercises, negotiating  drafting and agreeing terms in what are much more complicated agreements than in football, I can assure you all that it takes time to get these things over the line. Whilst I negotiate very complex agreements  once we are down to the 2 parties, it's the tern6s that take time to agree. But in football, the terms will be somewhat simpler but with large £s at stake and considerable risk but....  you never have just 2 parties. There are 2 ( maybe 3 or 4 clubs)  sets of agents, lawyers and the player himself all with a part to play). After initial identification of targets, there will be 2 or 3 targets for each position identified and in sounding out availability or in having initial talks, some press leaks will occur and we may get linked to a player who is our number 2 target. This is a player the club will be monitoring but holding off on pending progress on the 1st target. That 1st target may or may not be released by the club. They may want to wait and see how their own cover is panning out, they may be yet to decide whether we are the best option ( if a loan etc). The player will have a say. He will have preferences and that may change based on pressure from his agents or other factors. As you hold fire for your number 1 choice, you see your number 2 target isn't moving anywhere so you decide to hold off another week or 2. But that number 2 targets name has been in the transfer thread for 3 weeks now. Things move on and number 1 target is looking less likely so tou restart talks with number 2 target and start to have talks with number 3 target. Number 3 target's name now gets leaked and a thread appears on foxestalk. It's been 4 weeks now, there are 3 names on foxes talk. Eventually number 1 target falls through or you decide its too risky to pursue as time is moving on and eventually you agree in principle with number 2 or 3 target, the club, player agents but only after stepping up commercial talks and getting to a rough agreement in principle. You then have the finer details, league paperwork, medicals etc plus time to pull together a press statement. In some cases, on day 1 , the club says a player is available, the player wants to come, his agents are no issue and it only takes a week or so to agree terms. But in many cases it's not that easy as so many parties are involved in the process and it only takes 1 to hold it all up. If you try to force the issue too early, you risk an opposite party walking away when a bit more patience was required. Too much patience and you miss your 2nd or 3rd choice. Its all a balancing act. Nobody  including me, can really comment on how well the LCFC recruitment team  are performing or otherwise. We don't even know 5% of what is going on so its all conjecture. Remember also, all of that is for 1 position. You are also repeating this for other positions whilst also trying g to move players out the club and having reverse negotiations. Depending on how that is going g impacts your spend budget on incoming. Its likely very fast paced, and you need to be agile and able to change approach on a daily basis. Whilst on here it feels like years are passing, I bet every day is relentless for those trying to do the business. 

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...good info, but where are the paragraphs!!!

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1 minute ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...good info, but where are the paragraphs!!!

You wanted it to be even longer!!!! But I will accept it would have benefitted from a bit more breaking up. I was on a conf call ( bored sh1tless whilst typing) 

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48 minutes ago, Tuna said:

Oh the days when we found out a new signing was done when it was posted on ceefax or announced on Radio Leicester at the top of the hour.

I remember not knowing until I saw that days Leicester Mercury with a new player on the back page holding a shirt or scarf up!

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46 minutes ago, Bagworthblue said:

Being in a similar line of work and regularly identifying business needs, running procurement exercises, negotiating  drafting and agreeing terms in what are much more complicated agreements than in football, I can assure you all that it takes time to get these things over the line. Whilst I negotiate very complex agreements  once we are down to the 2 parties, it's the tern6s that take time to agree. But in football, the terms will be somewhat simpler but with large £s at stake and considerable risk but....  you never have just 2 parties. There are 2 ( maybe 3 or 4 clubs)  sets of agents, lawyers and the player himself all with a part to play). After initial identification of targets, there will be 2 or 3 targets for each position identified and in sounding out availability or in having initial talks, some press leaks will occur and we may get linked to a player who is our number 2 target. This is a player the club will be monitoring but holding off on pending progress on the 1st target. That 1st target may or may not be released by the club. They may want to wait and see how their own cover is panning out, they may be yet to decide whether we are the best option ( if a loan etc). The player will have a say. He will have preferences and that may change based on pressure from his agents or other factors. As you hold fire for your number 1 choice, you see your number 2 target isn't moving anywhere so you decide to hold off another week or 2. But that number 2 targets name has been in the transfer thread for 3 weeks now. Things move on and number 1 target is looking less likely so tou restart talks with number 2 target and start to have talks with number 3 target. Number 3 target's name now gets leaked and a thread appears on foxestalk. It's been 4 weeks now, there are 3 names on foxes talk. Eventually number 1 target falls through or you decide its too risky to pursue as time is moving on and eventually you agree in principle with number 2 or 3 target, the club, player agents but only after stepping up commercial talks and getting to a rough agreement in principle. You then have the finer details, league paperwork, medicals etc plus time to pull together a press statement. In some cases, on day 1 , the club says a player is available, the player wants to come, his agents are no issue and it only takes a week or so to agree terms. But in many cases it's not that easy as so many parties are involved in the process and it only takes 1 to hold it all up. If you try to force the issue too early, you risk an opposite party walking away when a bit more patience was required. Too much patience and you miss your 2nd or 3rd choice. Its all a balancing act. Nobody  including me, can really comment on how well the LCFC recruitment team  are performing or otherwise. We don't even know 5% of what is going on so its all conjecture. Remember also, all of that is for 1 position. You are also repeating this for other positions whilst also trying g to move players out the club and having reverse negotiations. Depending on how that is going g impacts your spend budget on incoming. Its likely very fast paced, and you need to be agile and able to change approach on a daily basis. Whilst on here it feels like years are passing, I bet every day is relentless for those trying to do the business. 

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ChatGPT to the rescue

 

  • Similar work experience in business needs identification, procurement, negotiation, and complex agreement drafting.
  • Football deals involve simpler terms but with high stakes and multiple parties: clubs, agents, lawyers, players.
  • Initial identification of multiple targets for each position, leading to leaks and potential confusion.
  • Player preferences can change due to agents, timing, or other factors.
  • Process involves waiting for first choice, exploring alternatives, restarting talks, and commercial discussions.
  • Agreement reached in principle after navigating details, paperwork, medicals, and press statements.
  • In some cases, deals are straightforward, but often delays due to numerous involved parties.
  • Balancing act between patience and pushing for progress without risking deals falling through.
  • Complexity multiplies for various positions and outgoing player negotiations.
  • Continuous adaptation and agility required due to the fast-paced nature of negotiations.
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11 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

ChatGPT to the rescue

 

  • Similar work experience in business needs identification, procurement, negotiation, and complex agreement drafting.
  • Football deals involve simpler terms but with high stakes and multiple parties: clubs, agents, lawyers, players.
  • Initial identification of multiple targets for each position, leading to leaks and potential confusion.
  • Player preferences can change due to agents, timing, or other factors.
  • Process involves waiting for first choice, exploring alternatives, restarting talks, and commercial discussions.
  • Agreement reached in principle after navigating details, paperwork, medicals, and press statements.
  • In some cases, deals are straightforward, but often delays due to numerous involved parties.
  • Balancing act between patience and pushing for progress without risking deals falling through.
  • Complexity multiplies for various positions and outgoing player negotiations.
  • Continuous adaptation and agility required due to the fast-paced nature of negotiations.

Mate I'm early gen x trying to survive in a gen z world. A scientific calculator was new tech as a lad a casio watch from Argos with an hourly chime was the dream and a ZX81 was considered space age

( google it) 

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34 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

ChatGPT to the rescue

 

  • Similar work experience in business needs identification, procurement, negotiation, and complex agreement drafting.
  • Football deals involve simpler terms but with high stakes and multiple parties: clubs, agents, lawyers, players.
  • Initial identification of multiple targets for each position, leading to leaks and potential confusion.
  • Player preferences can change due to agents, timing, or other factors.
  • Process involves waiting for first choice, exploring alternatives, restarting talks, and commercial discussions.
  • Agreement reached in principle after navigating details, paperwork, medicals, and press statements.
  • In some cases, deals are straightforward, but often delays due to numerous involved parties.
  • Balancing act between patience and pushing for progress without risking deals falling through.
  • Complexity multiplies for various positions and outgoing player negotiations.
  • Continuous adaptation and agility required due to the fast-paced nature of negotiations.

 

Sorry I've got a terrible attention span can you ask it to condense it further. No more than two sentences. 

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1 hour ago, Bagworthblue said:

Being in a similar line of work and regularly identifying business needs, running procurement exercises, negotiating  drafting and agreeing terms in what are much more complicated agreements than in football, I can assure you all that it takes time to get these things over the line. Whilst I negotiate very complex agreements  once we are down to the 2 parties, it's the tern6s that take time to agree. But in football, the terms will be somewhat simpler but with large £s at stake and considerable risk but....  you never have just 2 parties. There are 2 ( maybe 3 or 4 clubs)  sets of agents, lawyers and the player himself all with a part to play). After initial identification of targets, there will be 2 or 3 targets for each position identified and in sounding out availability or in having initial talks, some press leaks will occur and we may get linked to a player who is our number 2 target. This is a player the club will be monitoring but holding off on pending progress on the 1st target. That 1st target may or may not be released by the club. They may want to wait and see how their own cover is panning out, they may be yet to decide whether we are the best option ( if a loan etc). The player will have a say. He will have preferences and that may change based on pressure from his agents or other factors. As you hold fire for your number 1 choice, you see your number 2 target isn't moving anywhere so you decide to hold off another week or 2. But that number 2 targets name has been in the transfer thread for 3 weeks now. Things move on and number 1 target is looking less likely so tou restart talks with number 2 target and start to have talks with number 3 target. Number 3 target's name now gets leaked and a thread appears on foxestalk. It's been 4 weeks now, there are 3 names on foxes talk. Eventually number 1 target falls through or you decide its too risky to pursue as time is moving on and eventually you agree in principle with number 2 or 3 target, the club, player agents but only after stepping up commercial talks and getting to a rough agreement in principle. You then have the finer details, league paperwork, medicals etc plus time to pull together a press statement. In some cases, on day 1 , the club says a player is available, the player wants to come, his agents are no issue and it only takes a week or so to agree terms. But in many cases it's not that easy as so many parties are involved in the process and it only takes 1 to hold it all up. If you try to force the issue too early, you risk an opposite party walking away when a bit more patience was required. Too much patience and you miss your 2nd or 3rd choice. Its all a balancing act. Nobody  including me, can really comment on how well the LCFC recruitment team  are performing or otherwise. We don't even know 5% of what is going on so its all conjecture. Remember also, all of that is for 1 position. You are also repeating this for other positions whilst also trying g to move players out the club and having reverse negotiations. Depending on how that is going g impacts your spend budget on incoming. Its likely very fast paced, and you need to be agile and able to change approach on a daily basis. Whilst on here it feels like years are passing, I bet every day is relentless for those trying to do the business. 

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