Finnegan Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: Efes Mangal for me tea tooonnniiiiiight You should see my new local spot. /chefskiss. I thought EM was nice but Oof. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergray22 Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 2 hours ago, filbertway said: Agreed that we need to take a few gambles, just if 10 million euros in the price, that's not the price I want to be paying on a punt. If it was 2/3 million euros with add ons should he reach certain appearances, with reasonable wages then I'd be happy. I'm just thinking, we need to be able to move a player on if it doesn't work out. Absolutely I wouldn’t pay that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 The €10m euros could include everything inc this seasons loan fee and also all poss add ons ( eg €2m if he scores the winner in the leics senior cup) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 37 minutes ago, LinekersLugs said: I believe it’s happening but ill Honestly say this has come from left field By the way Enzo has his own scouts and trusted people in that part of the work Not sure is that a good thing or not to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezFox Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 If we sign this guy I’m all for it. If we sign this guy for anything that looks even remotely like 10m euros. It would be a really poor move. Extremely annoying if true. Deserve to be in the mess we are in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 43 minutes ago, st albans fox said: The €10m euros could include everything inc this seasons loan fee and also all poss add ons ( eg €2m if he scores the winner in the leics senior cup) Was thinking that, if its now loan with obligation to buy €10m, rather than loan with option to buy for €5.5m, usually the latter doesn't include the loan fee element whereas the obligation is the total transfer value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tielemans63 Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 If the fee is £10m, I'd rather we paid a bit more and brought in Piroe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 €10m including loan fee it sounds like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 Hang on a minute…. What’s gone on, here? Is this definitely happening? If so… how when? What did I miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezFox Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 9 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Was thinking that, if its now loan with obligation to buy €10m, rather than loan with option to buy for €5.5m, usually the latter doesn't include the loan fee element whereas the obligation is the total transfer value. Is it just me or does this seem like a big expensive mistake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 2 minutes ago, DezFox said: Is it just me or does this seem like a big expensive mistake? I wouldn't really over react to the Turkish press saying its ten million. We don't even know it's definitely happening, they're largely the only ones reporting it. A minute ago it was 6m. In all likelihood if its happening at all it's probably a loan with any obligation being dependent on promotion anyway. I dont believe for a second it'll be ten but remember that it's in euros, so it's 8.5m anyway. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 6 minutes ago, DezFox said: Is it just me or does this seem like a big expensive mistake? It could well be. I'd much prefer loan with an option at a higher price than loan with obligation for slightly less as that league is a minefield and Ghezzal has proven that a lack of pace but could footwork can equal loads of assists, which is what Akgün specialises in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksz Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 12 minutes ago, Tielemans63 said: If the fee is £10m, I'd rather we paid a bit more and brought in Piroe. Think the point is, that Piroe would be 10m on the FFP books now and Akgun would be 10m in a year. Arsenal and Brentford have done similar in the Raya deal for similar reasons. Obviously we don’t know the ins and outs, but I’d imagine that’s why they look more favourably on a deal for Akgun as opposed to someone they’d have to buy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 13 minutes ago, Tielemans63 said: If the fee is £10m, I'd rather we paid a bit more and brought in Piroe. What's Piroe got to do with the right winger we've been screaming for since Mahrez? No ones saying we won't go for Piroe to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 Just now, Aleksz said: Think the point is, that Piroe would be 10m on the FFP books now and Akgun would be 10m in a year. Arsenal and Brentford have done similar in the Raya deal for similar reasons. Obviously we don’t know the ins and outs, but I’d imagine that’s why they look more favourably on a deal for Akgun as opposed to someone they’d have to buy now. Neither would be that much for FFP, it would be the transfer fee divided by the length of the contract per year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 Would Piroe expect to come and rotate? I don’t think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 21 August 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 21 August 2023 2 minutes ago, Aleksz said: Think the point is, that Piroe would be 10m on the FFP books now and Akgun would be 10m in a year. Arsenal and Brentford have done similar in the Raya deal for similar reasons. Obviously we don’t know the ins and outs, but I’d imagine that’s why they look more favourably on a deal for Akgun as opposed to someone they’d have to buy now. Piroe would cost twice, if not more, than Yunus and they play in completely different positions. People need to get this shit out of their heads that Piroe plays wide right. He's not a winger. He is not Maresca's idea of a wide player. Most importantly, he isn't coming here. Get over it. This sort of young kid you've never heard of for probably around 6-7m is exactly the sort of signing people have been asking for, a risk on a young player hoping our scout network is up to scratch. Our entire success was built on this sort of move historically. We go again. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 Just now, Dahnsouff said: Would Piroe expect to come and rotate? I don’t think so Not at half time? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksz Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 Just now, Ric Flair said: Neither would be that much for FFP, it would be the transfer fee divided by the length of the contract per year. Cheers, I’ve got a very vague understanding of it admittedly. This all being said, I’ve got to say I’m surprised we’ve bitten to a obligation to buy rather than an option to buy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 Just now, Aleksz said: Cheers, I’ve got a very vague understanding of it admittedly. This all being said, I’ve got to say I’m surprised we’ve bitten to an obligation to buy rather than an option to buy. Probably need to see the white of the eyes of any deal for this guy tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksz Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 1 minute ago, Finnegan said: Piroe would cost twice, if not more, than Yunus and they play in completely different positions. People need to get this shit out of their heads that Piroe plays wide right. He's not a winger. He is not Maresca's idea of a wide player. Most importantly, he isn't coming here. Get over it. This sort of young kid you've never heard of for probably around 6-7m is exactly the sort of signing people have been asking for, a risk on a young player hoping our scout network is up to scratch. Our entire success was built on this sort of move historically. We go again. Oh yeah no doubt about it. In my opinion the Piroe ship sailed once it became relatively clear Kel was going to stick around as they’re very similar in profile. Was just an example of a loan to buy vs buying now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 2 minutes ago, Claridge said: Not at half time? I’m scared and don’t understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy tiler Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 Is he any good? I know nothing of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmo86 Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 Isn’t Piroe a striker anyway? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 21 August 2023 Share Posted 21 August 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: I’m scared and don’t understand. Too be fair it wasn't a very good reply, you said he wouldnt' rotate and i Meant not swap ends. My bad Edited 21 August 2023 by Claridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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