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48 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

So I asked ChatGPT can you suggest a play leicester city should buy to replace jannik vestergaard?

and I got

To replace Jannik Vestergaard, Leicester City should consider a center-back who is both defensively solid and comfortable with the ball. Here are a few options:

  1. Edmond Tapsoba (Bayer Leverkusen): Tapsoba is a highly-rated defender known for his athleticism and defensive capabilities. He has been a key player for Leverkusen under Xabi Alonso, demonstrating significant improvement and consistency (90min.com).

  2. Gleison Bremer (Juventus): Bremer has been outstanding in Serie A, known for his strong defensive skills and ability to contribute to his team’s buildup play. He has been a standout performer for Juventus, and his style would suit the Premier League well (Squawka) (SPORTbible).

  3. Ronald Araujo (Barcelona): Araujo is versatile, having played both as a center-back and right-back for Barcelona. He is strong, quick, and excellent in one-on-one situations, making him a robust addition to any defense (SPORTbible).

  4. Alessandro Bastoni (Inter Milan): Bastoni is one of the most promising young defenders in Europe. He combines solid defensive skills with the ability to play out from the back, making him an ideal candidate for a team looking to build from the defense (SPORTbible).

Each of these players offers a blend of defensive solidity and technical ability that would enhance Leicester City's backline.

 

I clearly should have asked could and not should  lol

 

Just waiting for Rudkin to message Mark asking for this to be removed on the grounds that you've accidentally released company secrets. :D

 

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1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

Do you agree

  • he has been good this year? Yes
  • he has been integral to how we played this year?  Yes
  • he has a skill set different to all other defenders we have with his defensive pivot capability?
    • Some skills are worse, some skills are better. Yes

Think these are the pertinent questions, not individual low hanging fruit criticisms, as his skills would be extremely difficult to replace without breaking the bank, which we clearly are not in a position to do.

Yeah I agree to all.

 

It's going to be very different next season and the ability for our defenders to defend will be crucial if we don't want to ship 65+ goals. If Enzo loses sight of that then it's gonna be a very long season.

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2 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Yeah I agree to all.

 

It's going to be very different next season and the ability for our defenders to defend will be crucial if we don't want to ship 65+ goals. If Enzo loses sight of that then it's gonna be a very long season.

Perhaps you should give Enzo a call just in case he’s unaware that shipping 65+ goals isn’t a good thing. 😏

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3 hours ago, Sly said:

Different times, different coach.

 

I’m willing to give him a chance but he needs a partner with pace; whose first name isn’t Wout. 


 

id suggest the better option would be to get rid of the defender with no pace and who can’t really head the ball?

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3 hours ago, Babylon said:

Did our system when we won the league help the lack of pace Wes and Huth had? It's on the manager to use the player correctly. 

 

The simple fact is, with what's likely to be a limited budget, it makes far more sense to keep what you have, than add another player to the list that you need to buy. 

I’m not so sure we should hold that team up  as a Tolken of what players you need to win the prem. It was a bit of a strange season, I’m sure we can all agree. They did also have Kantè in front of them, who was a bit of a freak show that year,
 

 Besides, added into the fact Vesty can’t head the ball, I’d definitely say he’s the one to replace for the prem.

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10 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

Perhaps you should give Enzo a call just in case he’s unaware that shipping 65+ goals isn’t a good thing. 😏

Based on what I've seen so far I wouldn't be surprised if playing "the correct way" supersedes not conceding 65+ :D

 

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13 minutes ago, MPH said:

I’m not so sure we should hold that team up  as a Tolken of what players you need to win the prem. It was a bit of a strange season, I’m sure we can all agree. They did also have Kantè in front of them, who was a bit of a freak show that year,
 

 Besides, added into the fact Vesty can’t head the ball, I’d definitely say he’s the one to replace for the prem.

I’m not having he can’t head a ball :D

https://www.squawka.com/en/comparison-matrix/?compare=U0l6Jrw_KjoNCoVp4Uxqd


Of the top 5 (debatable) centre backs in the league, he’s at 72.3% aerial duel wins.

 

His ground duels are where he struggles.

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5 minutes ago, VictorFox said:

We all just need to accept that we can’t afford to sign 2 centre backs, we’ll definitely sign one, so keeping him is our only option 

Yes, 100% agree.

 

Ideally we’d bring in around 8 - 9 players, however this isn’t what we are capable of.

 

Survival is the key next season. We are going to re-build slowly. 
 

We can’t change every cog in the machine, as we have our hands tied to a degree. 

 

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1 hour ago, Sly said:

I’m not having he can’t head a ball :D

https://www.squawka.com/en/comparison-matrix/?compare=U0l6Jrw_KjoNCoVp4Uxqd


Of the top 5 (debatable) centre backs in the league, he’s at 72.3% aerial duel wins.

 

His ground duels are where he struggles.

 

 

The amount of times he's had balls go over his head without him even leaving the ground to try and reach  ( which you wont find a stat for ) is laughable.

 

 

We need to learn from our last time in the prem and i'd put it to you that playing someone who was too awful to be in our relegation season isnt someone we should be putting any trust in..

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21 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

 

The amount of times he's had balls go over his head without him even leaving the ground to try and reach  ( which you wont find a stat for ) is laughable.

 

 

We need to learn from our last time in the prem and i'd put it to you that playing someone who was too awful to be in our relegation season isnt someone we should be putting any trust in..

Rodgers played Amartey though. He was doggo.

 

Vestergaard isn’t the person you want on the  halfway line, like you wouldn’t want Maguire there either. 
 

Play a system and tactics that suits, we’ll be okay. 

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4 minutes ago, Sly said:

Rodgers played Amartey though. He was doggo.

 

Vestergaard isn’t the person you want on the  halfway line, like you wouldn’t want Maguire there either. 
 

Play a system and tactics that suits, we’ll be okay. 

the only time we truly shone with slow defenders recently was when we had Kante in front of them.

 

But we dont need to look at staying up, i suppose. just survive! i'd still have no confidence in Vesty for that, though, unfortunately. I feel like he'd be targeted and exploited.

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8 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

It’s just incredible. They have genuinely thought that because he was good in that system in the championship and they want to appoint someone with the same style, that he’ll perform the same in the premier league. What if the new

mansger wants a higher line? This board are absolutely unbelievable 

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Seems an odd decision given our current situation and the very specialist role he played for Maresca. Can only imagine we'll compound the decision by giving him a three year contract on decent wages.

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Why are people surprised?

He did well in Enzo's system, the club have already revealed they want a similar style, so....  :dunno:

(And no I have zero interest in single instance call outs)

The past isn't necessarily the future.

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This is nothing to do with forward thinking, succession management, whether or not the new man will play a similar style to that which Enzo did! This is purely because the contract extension was offered and probably signed (forward dated) long before Enzo was leaving. Now both parties feel they should honour it. Sad but true. Now we're lumbered with another bench warmer.

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5 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

This is nothing to do with forward thinking, succession management, whether or not the new man will play a similar style to that which Enzo did! This is purely because the contract extension was offered and probably signed (forward dated) long before Enzo was leaving. Now both parties feel they should honour it. Sad but true. Now we're lumbered with another bench warmer.

On stupid money for his respectively ability. For all the joys of supporting our Club, we belong in the Bradgate Unit

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Well good riddance to him, I hope we beat them this next season the following chants spring to mind.

You only went for the money, went for the money.

Your getting sacked in the morning, sacked in the morning.

You should have stayed at Leicester stayed at Leicester.

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That was my fear. Renewing and then Enzo jets off. My lord. Prem strikers are gonna have a blast skinning big old Jannik next season. Probably on a salary, that is way too high for his ability as well.

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1 minute ago, Jonezy said:

That was my fear. Renewing and then Enzo jets off. My lord. Prem strikers are gonna have a blast skinning big old Jannik next season. Probably on a salary, that is way too high for his ability as well.

I doubt he’ll be playing too much mate

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2 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Why are people surprised?

He did well in Enzo's system, the club have already revealed they want a similar style, so....  :dunno:

(And no I have zero interest in single instance call outs)

The past isn't necessarily the future.

Most people still think he was the worst defender the season we got relegated. 

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