Stephy Mavididi

[Ric Flair]

7 hours ago, filbertway said:

In a much better team his output is similar to what Harvey's was for WBA when he was 19/20 (9 goals and 7 assists in 26 league games). Mav has 10 goals and 4 assists in 32.

 

I think people are getting massively carried away and forgetting the gulf in class between the two divisions. Not to say Mavididi can't be effective and have a role in the team, his pace and trickery will always be an asset and I don't see that being any different in the Prem.

 

Fairly confident we'll hear much more complaints of wastefulness next season. The one edge Mav has over Harvey is that he can create something out of nothing. Barnes always struggled beating a man, especially from a standing start. I think Barnes is the better all round footballer though (although maybe not since his knees turned to match sticks)

It's hard to make a case for any of our players on goals and assists alone that will be comparable to when we go up. The way we play, the goals and assists are shared out in a very broad pattern and on paper it will make some players seem to be nothing special.

 

Mavididi's attributes will suit the Prem, but the step up in class will require continued improvement especially on creating the angles to score and assist. Barnes struggled to beat his man but the one pattern of play he was coached and coached to improve on was arriving on to balls that needed hitting low in to either corner of the net. His development from 2018/19 onwards on this was vast.

[Pliskin]

8 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

It's hard to make a case for any of our players on goals and assists alone that will be comparable to when we go up. The way we play, the goals and assists are shared out in a very broad pattern and on paper it will make some players seem to be nothing special.

 

Mavididi's attributes will suit the Prem, but the step up in class will require continued improvement especially on creating the angles to score and assist. Barnes struggled to beat his man but the one pattern of play he was coached and coached to improve on was arriving on to balls that needed hitting low in to either corner of the net. His development from 2018/19 onwards on this was vast.

I thought this the other night, the way defenders tend to stand off in one on one situations he will have them on toast, plus there’s not much parking the bus going on. He’s seriously stepped up in recent months and at times is unplayable. I just hope he follows more of the Mahrez path, and not so much other players who’s torn the championship apart but then struggled in the PL. 

[coolhandfox]

Mavididi is more of a team player then Barnes.

 

Barnes was pretty poor defensively, Mavididi offer much more in that regard and has a much higher all round workrate.

 

Barnes also had 5 season it the PL to improve, Mavididi isn't going to be as good as 21/22 Barnes in his first season.

[filbertway]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

It's hard to make a case for any of our players on goals and assists alone that will be comparable to when we go up. The way we play, the goals and assists are shared out in a very broad pattern and on paper it will make some players seem to be nothing special.

 

Mavididi's attributes will suit the Prem, but the step up in class will require continued improvement especially on creating the angles to score and assist. Barnes struggled to beat his man but the one pattern of play he was coached and coached to improve on was arriving on to balls that needed hitting low in to either corner of the net. His development from 2018/19 onwards on this was vast.

 

 

Haha I remember when he came in that first 6-12 months he created and got on the end of so many chances and it was as if he thought that the aim of the game was to hit the keeper rather than the massive space either side.

 

When that finishing improved though, my god what a player. It's a shame we never got to see him in a team with a genuine right winger playing at the same time.

[UniFox21]

2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Barnes struggled to beat his man but the one pattern of play he was coached and coached to improve on was arriving on to balls that needed hitting low in to either corner of the net. His development from 2018/19 onwards on this was vast.

He became exceptional at that give and go pass around the edge of the box, curving his run to hit the ball into the corner. 

 

Was gutted we had to sell him, would've preferred to have sold a hatful of others and kept Barnes on. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

10 hours ago, filbertway said:

In a much better team his output is similar to what Harvey's was for WBA when he was 19/20 (9 goals and 7 assists in 26 league games). Mav has 10 goals and 4 assists in 32.

 

I think people are getting massively carried away and forgetting the gulf in class between the two divisions. Not to say Mavididi can't be effective and have a role in the team, his pace and trickery will always be an asset and I don't see that being any different in the Prem.

 

Fairly confident we'll hear much more complaints of wastefulness next season. The one edge Mav has over Harvey is that he can create something out of nothing. Barnes always struggled beating a man, especially from a standing start. I think Barnes is the better all round footballer though (although maybe not since his knees turned to match sticks)

Yep, short memories unfortunately. Barnes avergaed 15 ish goal contributions for 4 seasons for us, Mav will do very well to get near that next season imo. 

[Steve Earle]

2 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Mavididi is more of a team player then Barnes.

 

Barnes was pretty poor defensively, Mavididi offer much more in that regard and has a much higher all round workrate.

 

Barnes also had 5 season it the PL to improve, Mavididi isn't going to be as good as 21/22 Barnes in his first season.

That’s exceptionally generous of you sir 👏🏼

[coolhandfox]

4 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Yep, short memories unfortunately. Barnes avergaed 15 ish goal contributions for 4 seasons for us, Mav will do very well to get near that next season imo. 

If Mav gets 10 goal contributions, that would be pretty good. 

 

 

 

 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

6 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

If Mav gets 10 goal contributions, that would be pretty good. 

 

 

 

 

Yep, if him and Fatawu can both return those numbers, that's a decent start. Part of the reason we struggled last season was that we didn't have a pair of performing wingers and a lot fell to Barnes to create. 

[Dr The Singh]

After all the doom of gloom of relegation its nice hearing talk about the prem and assessing our player.

 

On Mavs may he continue to shine this season.  Enzo knows the prem well, he also knows what Mavs is capable of.  Its a good question, can Mavs move up a gear???

[Bordersfox]

4 hours ago, Dr The Singh said:

After all the doom of gloom of relegation its nice hearing talk about the prem and assessing our player.

 

On Mavs may he continue to shine this season.  Enzo knows the prem well, he also knows what Mavs is capable of.  Its a good question, can Mavs move up a gear???

Mavs is going to be nutmegging the sh1t of players next season before scuffing his shot into the bottom corner.  

 

Love the dude. 

 

Also think there's going to be a lot less low blocking/doubling up next season which means both Mav and Fats potentially have more space to exploit behind their full backs. 

[ARM1968]

24 minutes ago, Bordersfox said:

Mavs is going to be nutmegging the sh1t of players next season before scuffing his shot into the bottom corner.  

 

Love the dude. 

 

Also think there's going to be a lot less low blocking/doubling up next season which means both Mav and Fats potentially have more space to exploit behind their full backs. 

Did you buy two seats on the optimistic bus?

[Bordersfox]

17 minutes ago, ARM1968 said:

Did you buy two seats on the optimistic bus?

Damn right.  If I can't be optimistic now, then when? 

[ARM1968]

52 minutes ago, Bordersfox said:

Damn right.  If I can't be optimistic now, then when? 

Yeah I guess you’re right. Let’s hope so. Be nice to have two wingers terrorising the Premier League. 

[dmayne7]

Been really good for us but today might have been the most ineffectual game I've ever seen from a winger (even Barnes at his worst did better). Constantly given the ball and couldn't beat a makeshift championship full back more than once. Embarrassing

[Sampson]

1 minute ago, dmayne7 said:

Been really good for us but today might have been the most ineffectual game I've ever seen from a winger (even Barnes at his worst did better). Constantly given the ball and couldn't beat a makeshift championship full back more than once. Embarrassing

His constant diving today drove me up the wall. Must’ve killed 4 or 5 promising positions for us today by pretending to be fouled and falling over. Was so frustrating and embarrassing. 

[Mark]

Telling how ineffective he was against Dunne, body language has always suggested he’s not arsed about improving either. He’s just not the answer and we need to replace after this season

[Matt]

May aswell be playing with 10 men with him in the team atm.

 

Looked lazy and stroppy for whatever reason.

[Tuna]

We needed to strengthen on the wings in January in case his form dropped, it has, we didn't and now we are in a mess

[Viktor-LCFC]

3 minutes ago, Mark said:

Telling how ineffective he was against Dunne, body language has always suggested he’s not arsed about improving either. He’s just not the answer and we need to replace after this season

The guy needs more support, overlapping fullbacks would help, he's constantly one on one but some one covering him if he cuts inside 

[Viktor-LCFC]

Just now, Tuna said:

We needed to strengthen on the wings in January in case his form dropped, it has, we didn't and now we are in a mess

 

New wingers? Both our wingers need help to drag the cover away.

 

New wingers won't change anything, it's the system.

[lcfcell]

Bar that purple patch in December he’s been underwhelming 

[phoneticerror]

What’s gone wrong?? 😢

[RowlattsFox]

Not having good alternatives is costing us. Wide men are always inconsistent but he's never premier league quality for me. 

[KFS]

Shit recently but will turn it on in the next two away games imo. Needs space to be effective