Cesare Casadei

[Nolucklcfc]

He was ok. He seems to be suffering from a lack of confidence for sure. Maybe we are expecting him to stand out a bit more because he’s come from a big club but it just seems like the games pass him by a little bit. Positionally he needs to improve but today he was steady I thought. 

[Hammo]

6 minutes ago, ARM1968 said:

Not seen much ‘hate’. I’m not sure questioning his ability as a player is hate.  So far he has been very poor in almost all aspects of his game. Is he trying too hard? I postulated that earlier. Lack of confidence?  I don’t think anyone expects him to be the finished product, but I think they do expect him to look like he knows how to play and where to be - putting in the odd tackle and being a bit more robust might be good too. He’s a big lad. 

Spot on. There is no 'hate' - it's just a trendy, overused word some people lazily substitute for 'criticism' because they want to sound indignant and righteous.

[sm1]

He was ok by his normal standards, but he's not at the level we want. There's a noticeable drop between him and Ndidi.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

55 minutes ago, ARM1968 said:

Do your eyes work mate?  Or do you just take Wiki’s as gospel?

 

You can see it. It is obvious. He’s not going to be a top talent, simple as that. 

By implication you’re saying the Chelsea youth coaches, the Italian youth coaches and Enzo are also blind. 
 

You’re also ignoring my point - a lot of football people see something in him, which on its own is no guarantee to success.

 

But with the sheer numbers involved at youth level, to get this far he must have shown a level of reasonable quality - and I’m happy to rely on their judgement over mine given I’ve not had the requisite viewing time to make a clear judgement myself.

 

I’d also suggest that by proxy, these coaches assessments that have resulted in the lad coming up through the youth system and competing for a position in a Premier League quality team puts in doubt your suggestion he’s not a natural footballer.

 

Indeed, if he’s not, he’s done well to become a learned footballer.

Edited 1 January by DJ Barry Hammond

[ARM1968]

1 minute ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

By implication you’re saying the Chelsea youth coaches, the Italian youth coaches and Enzo are also blind. 
 

You’re also ignoring my point - a lot of football people see sometimes him, which on its own is no guarantee to success.

 

But with the sheer numbers involved at youth level, to get this far he must have shown something - and I’m happy to rely on their judgement over mine given I’ve not had the requisite viewing time to make a clear judgement myself.

 

I’d also suggest that by proxy, these coaches assessments that have resulted in the lad coming up through the youth system and competing for a position in a Premier League quality team puts in doubt your suggestion he’s not a natural footballer.

 

Indeed, if he’s not, he’s done well to become a learned footballer.

He’s not. I’ve seen enough to form that opinion. Can he do better?  I’d sure hope so. 

[Chelmofox]

Thought he was alright today. Few dodgy moments in the first half but pretty bright in the 2nd. 

[DJ Barry Hammond]

34 minutes ago, sm1 said:

He was ok by his normal standards, but he's not at the level we want. There's a noticeable drop between him and Ndidi.

Why would you even judge him against Ndidi’s level when Ndidi has had numerous seasons at the top level and is a full international.

 

It’s arguable even Ndidi himself shouldn’t be playing for us this season, that his ability could court a much higher level.

 

So why expect an understudy, that’s still learning the game and is with us to develop to show that level? 

Edited 1 January by DJ Barry Hammond

[Langston]

1 minute ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

Why would you even judge him against N’didi’s level when N’didi has had numerous seasons at the top level and is a full international.

 

It’s arguable even N’didi himself shouldn’t be playing for us this season, that his ability could court a much higher level.

 

So why expect an understudy, that’s still learning the game and is with us to develop to show that level? 

 

He's been here for 7 years, there's no apostrophe in Ndidi am beggin u

[lgfualol]

Bit clumsy and low on confidence, but had a decent enough game. Probably doesnt help him much when there are loud groans every time something he tries doesnt work out.

Edited 1 January by lgfualol

[FOXSE]

13 minutes ago, Langston said:

 

He's been here for 7 years, there's no apostrophe in Ndidi am beggin u

Next you will be telling us his name isn't pronounced 'Na Didi'.... 😄 

[RowlattsFox]

With Ndidi out, this is his big opportunity. Has to make it happen. 

[coolhandfox]

Time to step up.

[Ian Nacho]

First opportunity for a consistent run of games in the team. Can't write him off just yet. 

[Noahfence]

He’s finishing the season with 15 goals. I’ve had a vision 

[Gerard]

He's been a huge disappointment for me because I had such high expectations of him. He was the one player I was desperate for us to get in the summer. The Golden Boot and Golden Ball winner at the U20 World Cup suggested to me he was going to the top of the game and at 20yo he's not that young that he shouldn't boss the Championship. I think a lower end PL player at best will probably be his level at his peak.

 

Looking at previous winners of the Golden Ball and Golden Boot he's the 7th player in history to do it joining the likes of Messi, Aguero and Saviola but also these two both won it in 2009 and 2011 and had nondescript careers so perhaps shining at the U20 World Cup is not a guarantee of quality.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Adiyiah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrique_Almeida

 

Tournament	Golden Ball	Golden Boot	Goals	Golden Glove	FIFA Fair Play Trophy
1977 Tunisia	Vladimir Bessonov	Guina	4	Not Awarded	Brazil
1979 Japan	Diego Maradona	Ramón Díaz	8		Poland
1981 Australia	Romulus Gabor	Mark Koussas	4		Australia
1983 Mexico	Geovani	Geovani	6		South Korea
1985 Soviet Union	Paulo Silas	Sebastián Losada	3		Colombia
1987 Chile	Robert Prosinečki	Marcel Witeczek	7		West Germany
1989 Saudi Arabia	Bismarck	Oleg Salenko	5		United States
1991 Portugal	Emílio Peixe	Sergei Sherbakov	5		Soviet Union
1993 Australia	Adriano	Henry Zambrano	3		England
1995 Qatar	Caio	Joseba Etxeberria	7		Japan
1997 Malaysia	Nicolás Olivera	Adaílton	10		Argentina
1999 Nigeria	Seydou Keita	Pablo Couñago	5		Croatia
2001 Argentina	Javier Saviola	Javier Saviola	11		Argentina
2003 United Arab Emirates	Ismail Matar	Eddie Johnson	4		Colombia
2005 Netherlands	Lionel Messi	Lionel Messi	6		Colombia
2007 Canada	Sergio Agüero	Sergio Agüero	6		Japan
2009 Egypt	Dominic Adiyiah	Dominic Adiyiah	8	Esteban Alvarado	Brazil
2011 Colombia	Henrique Almeida	Henrique Almeida	5	Mika	Nigeria
2013 Turkey	Paul Pogba	Ebenezer Assifuah	6	Guillermo de Amores	Spain
2015 New Zealand	Adama Traoré	Viktor Kovalenko	5	Predrag Rajković	Ukraine
2017 South Korea	Dominic Solanke	Riccardo Orsolini	5	Freddie Woodman	Mexico
2019 Poland	Lee Kang-in	Erling Haaland	9	Andriy Lunin	Japan
2023 Argentina	Cesare Casadei	Cesare Casadei	7	Sebastiano Desplanches	United States

Edited 5 January by Gerard

[Sionnach gorm]

I think Casadei will be an outstanding player.  We know what he’s capable of (from his youth).  I believe once he matures he will be an absolutely fantastic midfielder.  

[Arriba Los Zorros]

16 hours ago, Gerard said:

He's been a huge disappointment for me because I had such high expectations of him. He was the one player I was desperate for us to get in the summer. The Golden Boot and Golden Ball winner at the U20 World Cup suggested to me he was going to the top of the game and at 20yo he's not that young that he shouldn't boss the Championship. I think a lower end PL player at best will probably be his level at his peak.

 

Looking at previous winners of the Golden Ball and Golden Boot he's the 7th player in history to do it joining the likes of Messi, Aguero and Saviola but also these two both won it in 2009 and 2011 and had nondescript careers so perhaps shining at the U20 World Cup is not a guarantee of quality.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Adiyiah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrique_Almeida

 

Tournament	Golden Ball	Golden Boot	Goals	Golden Glove	FIFA Fair Play Trophy
1977 Tunisia	Vladimir Bessonov	Guina	4	Not Awarded	Brazil
1979 Japan	Diego Maradona	Ramón Díaz	8		Poland
1981 Australia	Romulus Gabor	Mark Koussas	4		Australia
1983 Mexico	Geovani	Geovani	6		South Korea
1985 Soviet Union	Paulo Silas	Sebastián Losada	3		Colombia
1987 Chile	Robert Prosinečki	Marcel Witeczek	7		West Germany
1989 Saudi Arabia	Bismarck	Oleg Salenko	5		United States
1991 Portugal	Emílio Peixe	Sergei Sherbakov	5		Soviet Union
1993 Australia	Adriano	Henry Zambrano	3		England
1995 Qatar	Caio	Joseba Etxeberria	7		Japan
1997 Malaysia	Nicolás Olivera	Adaílton	10		Argentina
1999 Nigeria	Seydou Keita	Pablo Couñago	5		Croatia
2001 Argentina	Javier Saviola	Javier Saviola	11		Argentina
2003 United Arab Emirates	Ismail Matar	Eddie Johnson	4		Colombia
2005 Netherlands	Lionel Messi	Lionel Messi	6		Colombia
2007 Canada	Sergio Agüero	Sergio Agüero	6		Japan
2009 Egypt	Dominic Adiyiah	Dominic Adiyiah	8	Esteban Alvarado	Brazil
2011 Colombia	Henrique Almeida	Henrique Almeida	5	Mika	Nigeria
2013 Turkey	Paul Pogba	Ebenezer Assifuah	6	Guillermo de Amores	Spain
2015 New Zealand	Adama Traoré	Viktor Kovalenko	5	Predrag Rajković	Ukraine
2017 South Korea	Dominic Solanke	Riccardo Orsolini	5	Freddie Woodman	Mexico
2019 Poland	Lee Kang-in	Erling Haaland	9	Andriy Lunin	Japan
2023 Argentina	Cesare Casadei	Cesare Casadei	7	Sebastiano Desplanches	United States

Pablo Couñago there's a name

[lcfc sheff]

His best game 

[It'sblueupnorth]

Played really well today, hopefully he can kick on with ndidi being out

[StriderHiryu]

The biggest difference for me today was his decision-making. In the past, Casadei has looked lost out on the pitch. Today he played several forward passes first or second time into great areas to give opportunities to others. He found Cannon a few times for example. His assist showed he can play a first time ball into a dangerous area.

 

His touch still worries me a bit. There was a moment where he picked up the ball, spun and then drove forwards imperiously. And then... a clumsy touch and the move was over. For him to get to the next level, at that moment of the move he needs to pick the right pass and execute it. He’s been guilty of that type of thing far too often in his time here so far.

 

I have a feeling he might be with us again on loan next season, but he'd have to have a lot more appearances of this quality to achieve that.

[Ric Flair]

Looked aggressive, confident on the ball and determined to drive us forward. Better.

[KFS]

Much much better

[Noahfence]

On 05/01/2024 at 14:45, Noahfence said:

He’s finishing the season with 15 goals. I’ve had a vision 

Here we go 

[CaliFOXnia]

On 01/01/2024 at 14:41, DJ Barry Hammond said:

By implication you’re saying the Chelsea youth coaches, the Italian youth coaches and Enzo are also blind. 
 

You’re also ignoring my point - a lot of football people see something in him, which on its own is no guarantee to success.

 

But with the sheer numbers involved at youth level, to get this far he must have shown a level of reasonable quality - and I’m happy to rely on their judgement over mine given I’ve not had the requisite viewing time to make a clear judgement myself.

 

I’d also suggest that by proxy, these coaches assessments that have resulted in the lad coming up through the youth system and competing for a position in a Premier League quality team puts in doubt your suggestion he’s not a natural footballer.

 

Indeed, if he’s not, he’s done well to become a learned footballer.

I certainly wish I’d have learned to be a footballer as well as he has! 😂

[coolhandfox]

Funny what playing a few games in a row does.

 

The boy just needs time.