Popular Post coolhandfox Posted 29 August 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 29 August 2023 (edited) Got to feeling Enzo would like someone who is a let more consistent at keeping the ball and linking up play. I think he could get frustrated by Nacho inconsistencies, he's can look rather untidy at times. I also think we wants someone who more willing to press and work harder and has real pace. Someone who is comfortable dropping in one minute and stretching the back line the next. Enzo is a coach were the system and patterns of play are the most important element, like Pep it's controlled. If you look at Man City they don't tolerant mavericks, you have to conform to the system. Nacho is more of a Maverick, capable of brilliance one minute, but also capable of looking clumsy the next. Edited 29 August 2023 by coolhandfox 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 36 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said: tbf i think if Vardy or Daka had been playing the numbers would probably be the same So neither of the 3 are critical to this system. IMO we shouldn’t be concerned about losing any of them. 12 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Also a risk, yes. But covering him for 4-5 weeks during the AFCON with Vardy/Mavadidi/academy striker would be easier than trying to get through the entire season with an inferior player. So far he’s looked pretty inferior in the grand scheme of things. Apparently, the only issue is he wasn’t being played. Now he is. If the ball wasn’t bouncing off him I would be excited. I am deeply concerned about keeping him and him running that deal down. Enzo needs a different profile of player. It’s a lazy assumption that we only get promoted with Nacho in the squad. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 Two more Leicester City big names could now go - Sources (footballinsider247.com) Signing two strikers, I don't see it happening personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 58 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: Losing Kelechi for nothing when his contract expires is better than selling him for 15 million now and missing out on promotion because we don’t have a striker who works in Enzo’s system. For me those two things are not mutually exclusive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudgerfox Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 What exactly is the evidence that Kelechi doesn’t fit the system? So far he improved the team when he came on as sub v Cov Scored and assisted v burton hit the post with a screamer v cardiff Beautifully assisted mcateers first v Rotherham He’s a proven scorer and assister and one who’d be mad to join a basket case like the current Wolves set up. And we’d be just as mad to let him go….whoever you got to replace him would be some sort of risk. He’s an important player in the dressing room too. Led the celebrations for McAteer on Saturday apparently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 28 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Got to feeling Enzo would like someone who is a let more consistent at keeping the ball and linking up play. I think he could get frustrated by Nacho inconsistencies, he's can look rather untidy at times. I also think we wants someone who more willing to press and work harder and has real pace. Someone who is comfortable dropping in one minute and stretching the back line the next. Enzo is a coach were the system and patterns of play are the most important element, like Pep it's controlled. If you look at Man City they don't tolerant mavericks, you have to conform to the system. Nacho is more of a Maverick, capable of brilliance one minute, but also capable of looking clumsy the next. So you want someone with JJ's pace, Vardy's work rate and aggression, Ricardo's control, Winks consistency but still Iheanacho's productivity? You got a spare 150m? Obviously I'm being facetious and I don't mean to take the piss but, still, Enzo is going to have to compromise somewhere and I'm sure he realises he's in the Championship. I do agree to an extent I think we want someone who is more reliable to "play off" to link up play in the final third but I do think we're looking for a unicorn if that player is also supposed to be a quality forward and not just some generic EFL donkey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 1 minute ago, smudgerfox said: What exactly is the evidence that Kelechi doesn’t fit the system? So far he improved the team when he came on as sub v Cov Scored and assisted v burton hit the post with a screamer v cardiff Beautifully assisted mcateers first v Rotherham He’s a proven scorer and assister and one who’d be mad to join a basket case like the current Wolves set up. And we’d be just as mad to let him go….whoever you got to replace him would be some sort of risk. He’s an important player in the dressing room too. Led the celebrations for McAteer on Saturday apparently. Because looking with only your eyes rarely tells the whole story, see below for the Championship season thus far https://fbref.com/en/players/c92e1a31/Kelechi-Iheanacho There is your evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudgerfox Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 6 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Because looking with only your eyes rarely tells the whole story, see below for the Championship season thus far https://fbref.com/en/players/c92e1a31/Kelechi-Iheanacho There is your evidence Evidence of what exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, smudgerfox said: Evidence of what exactly? His expected goals and assists per 90 is even lower this season than last, not a large sample size far admittedly, but it’s against much poorer opposition. Edited 29 August 2023 by Dahnsouff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 13 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Because looking with only your eyes rarely tells the whole story, see below for the Championship season thus far https://fbref.com/en/players/c92e1a31/Kelechi-Iheanacho There is your evidence I remember when you just used to be able to watch football with your eyes.... ahh the good old days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majaco Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 (edited) ... Edited 29 August 2023 by majaco More appropriate as a dm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 1 minute ago, AjcW said: I remember when you just used to be able to watch football with your eyes.... ahh the good old days That’s relied on people with bias - you feel free to trust them. Enjoy watching, just use stats for facts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 1 hour ago, Viva said: Keeping Iheanacho doesn’t guarantee us promotion. We could end up keeping him, not getting promoted and then be in a worse financial position next summer with no money for a replacement. It’s not as simple as saying keep him and we get promoted, sell him and we don’t. Which is not what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scotch Posted 29 August 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 29 August 2023 The thing with Nacho this season is that when you look at the teams we've played so far, they've all set up to give us no space. To get tight and but pressure on us. Now Nacho coming deep, like he has been limits his goalscoring opportunities but it also creates space for others behind him and it definately seems like that is by design. So I'm not sure that he necessarily "doesn't fit our system" if the system is designed to create opportunity for our wingers, who have been scoring and winning us games. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 5 minutes ago, Scotch said: The thing with Nacho this season is that when you look at the teams we've played so far, they've all set up to give us no space. To get tight and but pressure on us. Now Nacho coming deep, like he has been limits his goalscoring opportunities but it also creates space for others behind him and it definately seems like that is by design. So I'm not sure that he necessarily "doesn't fit our system" if the system is designed to create opportunity for our wingers, who have been scoring and winning us games. It's exactly what Burnley did last season. Their strikers got 19 goals between them (3 of them) and the wingers got 50 (3 of them) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scotch said: The thing with Nacho this season is that when you look at the teams we've played so far, they've all set up to give us no space. To get tight and but pressure on us. Now Nacho coming deep, like he has been limits his goalscoring opportunities but it also creates space for others behind him and it definately seems like that is by design. So I'm not sure that he necessarily "doesn't fit our system" if the system is designed to create opportunity for our wingers, who have been scoring and winning us games. It's true and Iheanacho is by far our most suited striker out of the three for this role, but he is also still quite erratic in his build-up play, especially his first touch and decision making. If he had more than one year left on his contract I wouldn't be selling, but we have to learn the lessons of previous years and cash in on players that will just walk away for free. Next summer we could have 13 players leave on a free or when their loans expire. That's not sustainable. Edited 29 August 2023 by Ricey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierzz Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 Will be a big dent on our promotion hopes if he leaves now as doubt there is time now to bring in a good enough replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 32 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: That’s relied on people with bias - you feel free to trust them. Enjoy watching, just use stats for facts. All discussions in 2023 have to be reduced to binary options it seems: stats = facts eyes = opinion In reality both have a place. Cacadei definitely assisted Kasey’s goal, his run pulling the defender away to create space. Any coach would be delighted with that run from his player. But the stats won’t record any credit for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 58 minutes ago, smudgerfox said: What exactly is the evidence that Kelechi doesn’t fit the system? So far he improved the team when he came on as sub v Cov Scored and assisted v burton hit the post with a screamer v cardiff Beautifully assisted mcateers first v Rotherham He’s a proven scorer and assister and one who’d be mad to join a basket case like the current Wolves set up. And we’d be just as mad to let him go….whoever you got to replace him would be some sort of risk. He’s an important player in the dressing room too. Led the celebrations for McAteer on Saturday apparently. 'a screamer v cardiff' Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 1 hour ago, Happy Fox said: Two more Leicester City big names could now go - Sources (footballinsider247.com) Signing two strikers, I don't see it happening personally. If Daka and Iheanacho go then two strikers is a must IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechey Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 I think he fits the system far better than any other striker we have 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusko187 Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 They have to actively go out there and recruit someone first before any offer for Kelechi can be considered. Be mad to lose him on a free but that appears to be happening. Club needs to potentially bring in 2/3 strikers over the course of the next few windows with all 3 of ours potentially on the way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 He’s only once scored more than 5 goals in a league season for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolucklcfc Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 Just now, Dusty said: He’s only once scored more than 5 goals in a league season for us. Doesn’t play enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted 29 August 2023 Share Posted 29 August 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Nolucklcfc said: Doesn’t play enough! He’s on his 5th Leicester manager now, there might be a reason he doesn’t play enough. Edited 29 August 2023 by Dusty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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