Guest Sideshow Faes Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 1 hour ago, SecretPro said: No, but If the club say "you can go on loan to leicester but we aren't loaning anybody to Sheffield United" then he has a choice of coming to us and being a star or sitting on the bench at Man City. It won't be anywhere near as binary as this. Club and player will sit down and discuss next move, as you might discuss your development in an annual appraisal. Both will have a say in it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 24 minutes ago, Holly B said: Have you got a photo of him without a beard as that could be him But if he's shaved it he did it very recently. He had the beard at Preston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 2 minutes ago, Sideshow Faes said: It won't be anywhere near as binary as this. Club and player will sit down and discuss next move, as you might discuss your development in an annual appraisal. Both will have a say in it together. If Sheffield United weren't offering a decent chunk of his wages or a loan fee then Man City could quite easily say you aren't going there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 8 minutes ago, Sideshow Faes said: It won't be anywhere near as binary as this. Club and player will sit down and discuss next move, as you might discuss your development in an annual appraisal. Both will have a say in it together. Sort of. But if you say to your boss " i want to start wearing a tutu and purple wig to future board meetings" , they might say no 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AjcW Posted 31 August 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 31 August 2023 Bet it’s a ****ing long game of guess who round @Holly B house at Christmas! 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sideshow Faes Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 8 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said: If Sheffield United weren't offering a decent chunk of his wages or a loan fee then Man City could quite easily say you aren't going there 3 minutes ago, MPH said: Sort of. But if you say to your boss " i want to start wearing a tutu and purple wig to future board meetings" , they might say no They'll sit down together and work out what's best for his development. What do the club want from a deal - they might think prem league experience is the next step or they might want to see him gaining a winning mentality in the champ - and what does he want - what do the two clubs have to say about playing time, does he want to move up to the prem, does location make a difference depending on what's happening in his life..... The idea it just comes down to wages and money is really simplistic. This isn't football manager, it's an employer and employee talking about that employee's development and a potential secondment, effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordersfox Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 15 minutes ago, Finnegan said: But if he's shaved it he did it very recently. He had the beard at Preston. Et tu @Finnegan, Et tu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 1 minute ago, Bordersfox said: Et tu @Finnegan, Et tu? I just want SOMETHING to fvcking happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 4 minutes ago, Sideshow Faes said: They'll sit down together and work out what's best for his development. What do the club want from a deal - they might think prem league experience is the next step or they might want to see him gaining a winning mentality in the champ - and what does he want - what do the two clubs have to say about playing time, does he want to move up to the prem, does location make a difference depending on what's happening in his life..... The idea it just comes down to wages and money is really simplistic. This isn't football manager, it's an employer and employee talking about that employee's development and a potential secondment, effectively. that sounds nice and lovely but hes a young lad at one of the best teams in the world. He wont have have much say in the final decision. Sure they'll entertain a discussion with him, but thats about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenfox Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 3 hours ago, Silva Fox said: Wife of Trialist B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 18 minutes ago, Sideshow Faes said: They'll sit down together and work out what's best for his development. What do the club want from a deal - they might think prem league experience is the next step or they might want to see him gaining a winning mentality in the champ - and what does he want - what do the two clubs have to say about playing time, does he want to move up to the prem, does location make a difference depending on what's happening in his life..... The idea it just comes down to wages and money is really simplistic. This isn't football manager, it's an employer and employee talking about that employee's development and a potential secondment, effectively. So you think if Man City wanted all his wages paying and a loan fee and Sheffield United said we aren't doing either they'd let him go there? I imagine in any discussion they'd say we're happy to listen and if a club can meet what we want and it meets the vision for your development and you want to go you can. I've not once said it's all about money either, just pointing out there's other factors that come in to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sideshow Faes Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 15 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said: So you think if Man City wanted all his wages paying and a loan fee and Sheffield United said we aren't doing either they'd let him go there? I imagine in any discussion they'd say we're happy to listen and if a club can meet what we want and it meets the vision for your development and you want to go you can. I've not once said it's all about money either, just pointing out there's other factors that come in to play. How important do you think it is to the third richest club on earth that they get 20%, 50% or 100% of a kid's wages? Yes these things come into it but you seem to be agreeing with me more than disagreeing as it'll ultimately be a discussion. If one club offers all his wage but club and player don't feel it the right step why would they wreck his development? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 57 minutes ago, MPH said: Sort of. But if you say to your boss " i want to start wearing a tutu and purple wig to future board meetings" , they might say no It’s the main reason I work for myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonfox1884 Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 Personally think Holly might have you all on absolute strings and I’m here for it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 3 minutes ago, Devonfox1884 said: Personally think Holly might have you all on absolute strings and I’m here for it You are so wrong my man! We are signing McAtee's body, with THB's face but without the beard of Cannon. Pretty believable if you ask me 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ARM1968 Posted 31 August 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 31 August 2023 59 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I just want SOMETHING to fvcking happen. Talking to your cock again? 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonb Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 7 minutes ago, STUHILL said: You are so wrong my man! We are signing McAtee's body, with THB's face but without the beard of Cannon. Pretty believable if you ask me Be good when they all get revealed tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 35 minutes ago, Sideshow Faes said: How important do you think it is to the third richest club on earth that they get 20%, 50% or 100% of a kid's wages? Yes these things come into it but you seem to be agreeing with me more than disagreeing as it'll ultimately be a discussion. If one club offers all his wage but club and player don't feel it the right step why would they wreck his development? Exactly they come in to it, which is what I was saying. I've never actually disagreed with your point just that there's lots of factors involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_no7 Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 Signing or loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 1 minute ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Signing or loan? Probably neither - for us anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusko187 Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 1 hour ago, AjcW said: Bet it’s a ****ing long game of guess who round @Holly B house at Christmas! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 3 hours ago, Molson Canadian said: Comes from good stock Alan Ball Sr.and Alan Ball Jr. are his great-grandfather and great-uncle respectively So we’re signing Cannon and Ball…. Suppose it’s better than Rod Hull and Emu that Rodgers signed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_forever Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 https://x.com/beyondthe90lcfc/status/1697353960049299886?s=46&t=5dEusx6GpOJy2u7qXWRC0g Says McAtee rumours are false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybside Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 It's the hope that kills you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLC86 Posted 31 August 2023 Share Posted 31 August 2023 5 hours ago, TrickyTrevLeftPeg said: Really? Said fatawu was already training and then wasn't signed until four days later. Had to back tracka. Always states a time when transfers going to happen/announced and it's days later. Could be wrong but seems wants to be ITK but is more in the wrong. Strange how people hang onto everyone word on a forum. Anyway if he is right. Would be a good signing and includes lot more depth which we need. Might not be 100% accurate but he was definitely at the training ground having his pictures taken well before he was announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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