EFL Officiating Abomination Journal 23/24

[ithuriel]

2 hours ago, UniFox21 said:

Didn't send the lad off for this nor give a foul.  

Also let play go on for a short while before stopping play, inconsistent ref to say the least.

[UniFox21]

5 minutes ago, ithuriel said:

Also let play go on for a short while before stopping play, inconsistent ref to say the least.

That's the main issue, the inconsistency. 

If a referee was leaning continuously, then that's okay, players know his style. It's when challenges like this in numerous games get very different decisions.

[filbertway]

2 hours ago, UniFox21 said:

Didn't send the lad off for this nor give a foul.  

That's literally exactly the same thing Fatawu did, the only different is the Cov player passed the ball a split second before Fatawu got there

 

Within 4 days of each other and one player has lost 3 games of his season because of this ref.

[UniFox21]

2 minutes ago, filbertway said:

That's literally exactly the same thing Fatawu did, the only different is the Cov player passed the ball a split second before Fatawu got there

 

Within 4 days of each other and one player has lost 3 games of his season because of this ref.

The big difference is this player got the ball and challenged at a slower rate. 

Fatawu went flying in and at full speed. 

[filbertway]

10 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

The big difference is this player got the ball and challenged at a slower rate. 

Fatawu went flying in and at full speed. 

Well getting the ball is dependent on how quick the opposition player shifts it, both their challenges were identical in that regard. The action should be punished, not the outcome.

 

I dno about the speed of the challenge as it's in slow motion and I never saw it in real time. However, I doubt the speed difference can be so great that one is a red card and the other one is play on.

[Les-TA-Jon]

Thought both are reds TBH.

 

Fatawu's arguably an 'orange' but what's obviously frustrating is that 1) the Bristol challenge is very similar but worse and isn't even called as a foul, let alone the red it should be and 2) the Coventry player who conceded the pen should have been off and 3) Palmer for Cov was lucky to avoid a 2nd yellow too

[filbertway]

4 hours ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

Thought both are reds TBH.

 

Fatawu's arguably an 'orange' but what's obviously frustrating is that 1) the Bristol challenge is very similar but worse and isn't even called as a foul, let alone the red it should be and 2) the Coventry player who conceded the pen should have been off and 3) Palmer for Cov was lucky to avoid a 2nd yellow too

What was it about the Bristol City challenge that made it worse than Fatawu's for you?

[funkyrobot]

7 minutes ago, filbertway said:

What was it about the Bristol City challenge that made it worse than Fatawu's for you?

The height of William’s tackle makes it far more dangerous than the Fatawu one. Fatawu slid along the floor and his foot was very low. This isn’t going to cause any damage to the players leg.The Bristol City lad went in high studs up with much more potential to injure his opponent. 

[Les-TA-Jon]

17 minutes ago, filbertway said:

What was it about the Bristol City challenge that made it worse than Fatawu's for you?

 

6 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

The height of William’s tackle makes it far more dangerous than the Fatawu one. Fatawu slid along the floor and his foot was very low. This isn’t going to cause any damage to the players leg.The Bristol City lad went in high studs up with much more potential to injure his opponent. 

Yeah this basically. 

 

Both players flew in dangerously and were out of control. But the Bristol player goes right through the ball, studs up and high into the standing leg 

 

Fatawu was, at least, studs down and low point of contact, mostly through the trailing leg

[filbertway]

8 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

 

Yeah this basically. 

 

Both players flew in dangerously and were out of control. But the Bristol player goes right through the ball, studs up and high into the standing leg 

 

Fatawu was, at least, studs down and low point of contact, mostly through the trailing leg

I think the trade off is Fatawu is about 1-2 inches lower, but studs up (I've just watched it again and I don't think it can be argued the studs are down). 

The bristol city lad is studs are down but he's a touch higher - unfortunately bounces off the ball and then goes into the West Ham player.

 

Both have them have lunged into a challenge but kept fairly low and unlikely to do any major damage. Which for me is probably why a yellow is fair for both.

 

Maybe there needs to be more clarity and say "if a player lunges in studs up then it's a red card/yellow card" whatever. The problem with these issues is that it's usually the fouled players reaction that dictates the reaction of the ref and then the VAR lads just agree with whatever the ref has decided.

 

Referees are far too focused on the reaction and result of an action rather than the action itself.

[justfoxes]

8 hours ago, UniFox21 said:

Didn't send the lad off for this nor give a foul.  

At least Abdul Fatwu didn’t slide his studs through the Cov players Leg like Williams did to Ings, the officiating is disgraceful in this country so glad we haven’t had to put up with the totally incompetent disgraceful waste of space VAR this season but we’ve still had to put up with absolutely Schitt referees that have no right even to officiate a game of tiddlywinks!!

 

The only decent ref we’ve had this year is the first black chap in years to be promoted to the Premier league roster he wasn’t bad at all better than the dross we’re being dished up with don’t get me started on Darren “CnutfaceincompetentCockwombletosspotknobheadedfuchwitbolloxbrainedwastofspace” England, it’s about time the PGMOL audited correctly the performances of these officials worked on a performance basis points system educated them better to understand the rules teach them how not to be incompetent FuchwitDickheads and get them out after the game to be interviewed on tv after the game to explain their decisions and reasons for their actions these refs need to start being made accountable !

 

[coolhandfox]

I think we have to realise the ref had one view of it in real time.

 

Fault is not with the ref, but with Fatawu giving him a decision to make with a reckless challenge.

[HybridFox]

That lino's not fit for school PE lessons let alone Championship football 

 

Missed just about every other throw-in 

Edited 23 January by HybridFox

[smallpauldj]

Just before half time, how on God's green earth was that a foul? Ref couldn't wait to blow for them tonight for anything soft imo. 

[Chelmofox]

Just now, smallpauldj said:

Just before half time, how on God's green earth was that a foul? Ref couldn't wait to blow for them tonight for anything soft imo. 

Were some shockers tonight. Refusing to give their defender a second yellow and instead a strong verbal warning. Don't need blue cards - just use the ones you have. Should have been down to 10 in the 1st half.

 

But end of the 1st half took the piss. Pulled it back for a foul long after Mavididi had sprinted free, then allowed them to take a quick free kick. 

[Bert]

Just now, Chelmofox said:

Were some shockers tonight. Refusing to give their defender a second yellow and instead a strong verbal warning. Don't need blue cards - just use the ones you have. Should have been down to 10 in the 1st half.

 

But end of the 1st half took the piss. Pulled it back for a foul long after Mavididi had sprinted free, then allowed them to take a quick free kick. 

And this is exactly why these blue cards are being introduced 

[ithuriel]

1 minute ago, Chelmofox said:

Were some shockers tonight. Refusing to give their defender a second yellow and instead a strong verbal warning. Don't need blue cards - just use the ones you have. Should have been down to 10 in the 1st half.

 

But end of the 1st half took the piss. Pulled it back for a foul long after Mavididi had sprinted free, then allowed them to take a quick free kick. 

Shit ref, nuff said.

[justfoxes]

13 minutes ago, ithuriel said:

Shit ref, nuff said.

Totally out of his depth made some shocking decisions let us play advantage then bought it back to give Sheffield a free kick, plus Abdul’s shoulder on the player where he gave them a free kick mindless decision against us seen that sort of challenge week in week out !

mind you still not as Schitt as Keith Stroud or Darren England, EFL PGMOL need to audit the quality of these incompetent fools can’t wait to hear them give their decisions to the crowd next season 

[Lionator]

25 minutes ago, smallpauldj said:

Just before half time, how on God's green earth was that a foul? Ref couldn't wait to blow for them tonight for anything soft imo. 

Fourth official gave it. 

[Lionator]

I don’t think he was that bad, played some nice advantages. He just made one or two insane decisions which went against both teams. Vaulks should’ve had at least two cautions. 

[justfoxes]

23 minutes ago, smallpauldj said:

Just before half time, how on God's green earth was that a foul? Ref couldn't wait to blow for them tonight for anything soft imo. 

I thought he played advantage to us then pulled it back for a Sheffield free kick said before looked out of his depth he hadn’t a clue what to give at times very controversial contentious decisions at times think he needs going back to lower leagues !

[LFox99]

How Winks ended up as the only one in the book for kicking away the ball is beyond me.

[CosbehFox]

Work experience kid vibes 

[Royston.]

Piss poor but just another one to add to the list...

[Mike Oxlong]

The linos are particularly bad. From the stands I see the ball clearly come of a certain player and go out for a throw and from 5 yards away they haven’t got a clue doing their best nervous Vicki Pollard impression before going with whatever the ref decides from 30 yards away. And a lot of the time they are nowhere near up with play when making their random offside decisions 

Edited 14 February by Mike Oxlong