Big_Nige Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May 23 minutes ago, Freeman's Wharfer said: Let him talk to them. If he wants to go and they want him then the price is the price. If he doesn’t, or they don’t want him, on we go. No new contract just for meeting what was expected of you last season. Maresca showed so many signs of inexperience last year. Things only picked up when the players locked themselves in a room without him to discuss. Someone will pay the price for that inexperience next season whether it’s us or Chelsea. Everyone is inexperienced till they are experienced though right? People seem to forget last season was Enzo’s first full season as a manager, he’ll have learnt an enormous amount about himself and his squad 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudger63 Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May Any top Premier league club would look at Enzo, and be put off by the fact he lost 11 games in the Championship with arguably one of the best squads in the history of the Championship, but we are talking about Chelsea, who have owners who have a complete scatter gun approach, so anything is possible with them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May 1 minute ago, Ricey said: Just for the love of god don’t give him a new contract. The chance that his style doesn’t work with this squad in the PL is high and let’s not forgot how the fans turned on him after Plymouth, that will still be there bubbling under the surface. We can’t fall into the Rodgers trap. If we get to the winter and Maresca isn’t working and the fans have turned, we can’t lumber ourselves with a huge pay off. If a club wants him this summer, and he’s tempted, let him go, take the money and back yourself to hire someone else suitable. We got promoted as champions and this change before it fails attitude is just silly. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunbury Fox Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May 2 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: I can't believe even we're dumb enough to give another contract like the Rodgers one. Like I'm not against a contract but that Rodgers one was on absurd terms, surely we can't tie ourselves up like that again. If it's that or let him go though you let him go. You've got to back yourselves to take these hits otherwise you'll never actually get anywhere. Spot on. If people want to leave Brighton they just them go and wish them luck. No point being held to ransom or forcing people to stay who don't want to. The difference between us and Brighton, however, is that they appear to have succession plans for key employees and we end up thrashing about hopelessly when someone leaves. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May I wonder what Russell Martin's release clause is 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May 41 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: https://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/chelsea/next-permanent-manager Does this suggest it’s all just standard fan rage/joy fishing? Or do I need to go to Specsavers pronto? No. Manager markets and Player Transfer markets mean bugger all. As little as £5/£10 can swing anything. Even if he isn't on there don't pay attention to odds/markets like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May (edited) If Enzo was to leave the thing that worries me is the fact that he was pushing for change within the board room that’s desperately needed. That’ll go out of the window with him leaving. To be honest I’m confused why they aren’t just going for De Zerbi? Edited 22 May by Bluearmyfox28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May Just now, Ashley said: No. Manager markets and Player Transfer markets mean bugger all. As little as £5/£10 can swing anything. Even if he isn't on there don't pay attention to odds/markets like that. But it has been reported he is a candidate, yet no odds, just seems weird. But then again I am not a gambling man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May With the squad that is left (after the contracts which have expired have gone), can’t help but think that it’s better suited to a normal formation, rather than Enzoball. Assuming we keep Vardy, and buy Fatawu, we still have the bare bones of a decent starting 11, played in a ‘normal’ 4-2-3-1 formation Hermansen. Riccy/JJ Faes/Coady. Souttar. Kristiansen. Soumare Winks. Fatawu. K D H/Alves Mavididi Vardy/Daka. Add a few freebies and bargains. Even if we sell KDH, we replace him. Get a battling type manager in, we’ll be fine Im not scared to lose Enzo tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May 1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said: Enzo would be loving that Will never understand this. Why appoint a supposed expert then interfere in their specialist area? If they are good enough, let them get in with it. If they aren't, get someone else in. Honestly, know your place or appoint the Director of Football or CEO to run the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May 7 minutes ago, Bluearmyfox28 said: If Enzo was to leave the thing that worries me is the fact that he was pushing for change within the board room that’s desperately needed. That’ll go out of the window with him leaving. To be honest I’m confused why they aren’t just going for De Zerbi? Was he really pushing for change at board level? I think the quote was people behind the scenes, not specifically board level (IE Rudkin) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May 1 minute ago, Corky said: Will never understand this. Why appoint a supposed expert then interfere in their specialist area? If they are good enough, let them get in with it. If they aren't, get someone else in. Honestly, know your place or appoint the Director of Football or CEO to run the team. Hubris I assume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May 1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said: Enzo would be loving that I think that is supposition, key word could 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May 1 minute ago, Tuna said: I think that is supposition, key word could For sure, but this thread left the land of truth and sensibility some miles ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May 27 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: We got promoted as champions and this change before it fails attitude is just silly. I’m not saying change before it fails. I’m saying don’t back ourselves into a corner incase it fails. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinckleyfox Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May To be honest i think whether he ends up at Chelsea or not, i honestly cant see him being our manager come january. hell inevitabley be pi55ed off with the financial situation and lack of clarity. There's also a good chance well be in the bottom 3 playing turgid football and we’re in another pay off situation. Or he plays a blinder and someone else comes in and he’d be daft not to go. not saying I want home gone, but let’s not kid ourselves that he’s going to be here long term. I don’t see much of a bond there, even when he’s tapping the badge it tends to feel more than a little strained. his stock is high at the moment, it may be the best chance he’ll ever get if managing a big club, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinckleyfox Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May Oh and Graham potter is available, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May Just now, Hinckleyfox said: Oh and Graham potter is available, right? He's turned us down before. He can **** off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May 40 minutes ago, Tuna said: I wonder what Russell Martin's release clause is Please no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble92 Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May 52 minutes ago, Big_Nige said: Everyone is inexperienced till they are experienced though right? People seem to forget last season was Enzo’s first full season as a manager, he’ll have learnt an enormous amount about himself and his squad As long as he's learned you can actually change a formation, and one chance landing to Daka all match against a relegation threatened team to boost your xG above theirs isn't a display of dominance, then I'll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_forever Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May (edited) Kompany getting the Bayern job. The success of Guardiola and his understudy Arteta are making his other acolytes high in demand. Even Xabi Alonso was coached by Guardiola. Edited 22 May by lcfc_forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston. Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May what has Kompany done to earn the Bayern job other than knowing the right people??? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May 13 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said: Kompany getting the Bayern job. The success of Guardiola and his understudy Arteta are making his other acolytes high in demand. Even Xabi Alonso was coached by Guardiola. Always find this interesting. Ferguson and Mourinho, both exceptional managers, but neither have really had any of their coaches/ players go on to become Good managers - Lampard/Rooney to name two. Whereas so many Pep has worked with have gone on to do recently well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston. Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May going back to enzo's threat that as soon as the "idea" was questioned he would leave. If Vardy called the post match meeting after Plymouth where the players asked for more freedom on the pitch, do you think Enzo was cool with that or he now has reason to go elsewhere but couldnt really leave at the time as we were balls deep in a promotion race and would tarnish his rep? just speculation/shit stirring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_forever Posted 22 May Share Posted 22 May 5 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: Always find this interesting. Ferguson and Mourinho, both exceptional managers, but neither have really had any of their coaches/ players go on to become Good managers - Lampard/Rooney to name two. Whereas so many Pep has worked with have gone on to do recently well Gasperini is having a big influence as well. Motta was one of his proteges, who's now getting the Juventus job off the back of his success at Bologna. https://onefootball.com/en/news/gasperini-and-atalanta-inspiring-the-future-of-italian-football-39470132 I think Ferguson was more about motivation/leadership rather than tactics and coaching, so you're saw fewer of his players being successful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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