Motty Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May 24 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: Very subjective. Depends on the man, and the circumstances Bet Frank Lampard would. Troy Deeney Sam Allerdyce Gary Rowett Bilic Bruce Nathan Jones Sierra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_forever Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May (edited) The thing is if Enzo does go, the sensible choice would be to bring in a manager with a similar playing system. Otherwise it's another huge transformation as per @StriderHiryu's post. So those who don't like the style now, be prepared for more of it either way. But knowing our board and their planning, we'll end up with a long ball specialist! Edited 23 May by lcfc_forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May If Enzo goes surely there is another bald b@astard in waiting from the Man City 'academy'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May 6 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said: The thing is if Enzo does go, the sensible choice would be to bring in a manager with a similar playing system. Otherwise it's another huge transformation as per @StriderHiryu's post. So those who don't like the style now, be prepared for more of it either way. But knowing our board and their planning, we'll end up with a long ball specialist! Top would love a name, if someone like José is available, he will try and bring him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May 43 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: Very subjective. Depends on the man, and the circumstances So you are suggesting there is something wrong with Enzo the man? Or the circumstance, i.e.; a hangover from previous seasons which we as fans fail to recover from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May 10 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said: The thing is if Enzo does go, the sensible choice would be to bring in a manager with a similar playing system. Otherwise it's another huge transformation as per @StriderHiryu's post. So those who don't like the style now, be prepared for more of it either way. But knowing our board and their planning, we'll end up with a long ball specialist! Yes, they'd need to be broadly aligned. As it stands we need 2 CB's, a full back, 3-4 CM's, 2 wingers and a striker. A different formation or system would require a few more full backs as I'm extremely concerned that Ricardo and Justin can play attacking full back roles without breaking down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May 13 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: So you are suggesting there is something wrong with Enzo the man? Or the circumstance, i.e.; a hangover from previous seasons which we as fans fail to recover from? I’m suggesting that I’m more than willingly to back a manager, as long as I believe the tactics, strategy and formation & philosophy he uses will work going into a Premier League season were we are likely to start on -8 points, having to rely on free signings, and an immense fighting spirit, which I just don’t think Enzo has lined up for us. I think he was fantastic, brilliant for getting us straight back up, and I thank him. I just think now would be the ideal time to change tact. New manager. New strategy. Utilising the players we currently have, adding a few gems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May 28 minutes ago, Motty said: Bet Frank Lampard would. Troy Deeney Sam Allerdyce Gary Rowett Bilic Bruce Nathan Jones Sierra A truely shite list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May (edited) 9 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: I’m suggesting that I’m more than willingly to back a manager, as long as I believe the tactics, strategy and formation & philosophy he uses will work going into a Premier League season were we are likely to start on -8 points, having to rely on free signings, and an immense fighting spirit, which I just don’t think Enzo has lined up for us. I think he was fantastic, brilliant for getting us straight back up, and I thank him. I just think now would be the ideal time to change tact. New manager. New strategy. Utilising the players we currently have, adding a few gems. This is why its so interesting, so many opinions I think its too late, Enzo going now would set back any work already done and any preparations for the coming season. Enzo has had a year establishing his tactic, understanding the personnel, whereas a new person would be starting without any of this. Don`t get me wrong if it makes sense for the club to let him go (Maybe they cannot stop it) then he should go, but in doing so the net is more than a positive in incomings column. Edited 23 May by Dahnsouff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May Enzo has now drifted to 5/1 on Sky Bet. That's not a bad little earner if anybody really thinks he's likely to go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Nacho Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May (edited) Statistically most mangers will get sacked at some point during their contract at a club anyway so I think it would be a sensible business move to get a decent wad of compensation now whilst his stock is high. Edited 23 May by Ian Nacho 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May 13 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said: Statistically most mangers will get sacked at some point during their contract at a club anyway so I think it would be a sensible business move to get a decent wad of compensation now whilst his stock is high. If he is genuinely the one they want (which we dont know) then how many times does this opportunity come along? Chelsea is a job every manager will fail at but doing so doesn't hurt your stock. Don't take it now, and its likely you aren't top of their list next time as new incumbent managers appear on the scene. So much press and agent noise, i'm trying not to get worked up about it. If Chelsea really want him then its over, and it would be for any manager really out of the big 6. But Chelsea being Chelsea, they probably haven't got a clue and its all noise right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parker Pen Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May From what I can see the Chelsea ownership group are split on who they want, hence all the rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May McKenna is looking more likely. Weakening a relegation rival can't be a bad thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May I just can’t see it being true….. it would truly be a sensational risky move…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May (edited) 14 minutes ago, Pliskin said: I just can’t see it being true….. it would truly be a sensational risky move…. I dont see it like that. Any more risky than mid table than Potter had them? Surely the least risky option was keeping Poch who actually got a song out of them last 3rd of the season. I think Enzo has pretty decent stock out there and i think their ownership are at that stage where they think they probably need the Man City identity. Chelsea aren't like us. If Enzo messes up they will just fire him and pay the £30 million severance and sell a hotel or 2. Then get Lampard in for the rest of the season. They can take that risk as they will alway be 'fine'. As times go on, i think more experienced heads are less likely to take this job. What Enzo might not know is how sh1te the Chelsea fans are. SB is full of entitled moaners who hate everything about the club (well apart from Roman). Father in law is a Chelsea fan and even when they were winning is was as if he hated the club and everything to do with football. Edited 23 May by Chelmofox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2024/05/23/exclusive-manager-guardiola-called-extraordinary-open-to-chelsea-talks-after-title-win/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooky Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May 2 hours ago, An Away Move said: If he goes I think I might be done with football. What the Premier League is doing potentially doing to Ipswich and us will be the straw that breaks camel’s back. It really is a disgrace. Totally agree with you, hopefully Enzo and Kieran both turn down Chelsea. These clown owners have ruined football, spending £750 million on transfers fees in a failed attempt to play football manager for real. Just flashing the cash buying who they want without a ****ing clue, or long term plan. How are they fit and proper owners, the PL are a joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May 1 hour ago, Ian Nacho said: Statistically most mangers will get sacked at some point during their contract at a club anyway so I think it would be a sensible business move to get a decent wad of compensation now whilst his stock is high. Absolutely spot on. And, we’ve used him for what we needed him for. We now face a very special and specific set of problems this season coming, and I’m not convinced Enzo is the man to take us forward, into it. Start again. Now’s the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May (edited) 2 hours ago, lcfc_forever said: The thing is if Enzo does go, the sensible choice would be to bring in a manager with a similar playing system. Otherwise it's another huge transformation as per @StriderHiryu's post. So those who don't like the style now, be prepared for more of it either way. But knowing our board and their planning, we'll end up with a long ball specialist! The squad is already mismatched, which is why he was struggling. If we got another tippy tappy manager it would actually require more spend. Some of us have already touched upon this that we have ended up in a situation of trying to get tippy tappy managers to keep top happy but dont have a matching squad. There is also more than two ways of playing its not either tippy tappy or hoof. But dont worry I cant see the club doing something sensible and getting moyes, instead they will get a tippy tappy manager for you. Edited 23 May by Chrysalis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May Why are Chelsea hunting a new manager? Because of interference. Can anyone see Enzo taking a job where someone tells him what to do and what to change about his approach? Nah. For this and a load of other reasons, this story is pure close season bollocks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May 1 minute ago, Chrysalis said: The squad is already mismatched, which is why he was struggling. If we got another tippy tappy manager it would actually require more spend. Some of us have already touched upon this that we have ended up in a situation of trying to get tippt tappy managers to keep top happy but dont have a matching squad. But dont worry I cant see the club doing something sensible and getting moyes, instead they will get a tippy tappy manager for you. Didn't do bad for someone 'struggling' did he. 97 points. The way people harp on you would think we scraped through via the playoffs. Moyes would be a dreadful appointment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May Just now, Chelmofox said: Didn't do bad for someone 'struggling' did he. 97 points. The way people harp on you would think we scraped through via the playoffs. Moyes would be a dreadful appointment. Whats wrong with Moyes? We try and do a Burnley we will be taking a lot of batterings and heading straight back down. Unless we spend huge amounts of money for the right players which we dont have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May Just now, Chrysalis said: Whats wrong with Moyes? We try and do a Burnley we will be taking a lot of batterings and heading straight back down. Unless we spend huge amounts of money for the right players which we dont have. I don't understand why people harp on about Burnley. Enzo isn't Kompany. We don't yet know how Enzo will approach it. And other clubs have been relegated too and many system struggle, not just Burnley. Moyes took a West Ham team loaded with talent to an inch of relegation last season and his West Ham team have been in relegation form for the final 3rd of this season, with FAR better players than we currently have. But if thats what people aspire to then fair do. My brother is a West Ham fan and goes to many matches, so a little more informed that the 5 minute clips you get of Bowen on match of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolucklcfc Posted 23 May Share Posted 23 May He was on a train to London this morning apparently 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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