Foxin_Mad Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May Unless he's a lot better man manager than I can give him credit for he is going to struggle with the egos at Chelsea. I predict a sacking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May Just now, Finnegan said: This is pure copium tbh. Mckenna had already had a year at Ipswich, was entrenched with his squad and had confidence and momentum on his side. That Enzo came straight in and immediately broke records with us with little effort with the squad having been sapped of all confidence and morale by Rodgers is frankly remarkable. I think it's really sad that the incompetence of Rudkin and Co will see Enzo leaving after a year and the fans will probably blame the manager for a lot of it and it'll sour how he's viewed here because thy he's been absolutely exceptional. TBH even if we had a competent board he would still be leaving if Chelsea came knocking. I just don’t think anyone saw it coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernpark Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May If he’s not there for at least 18 months, less than 20 games for Parma, a season with us and failure at Chelsea. Not looking great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May 4 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: we did ok when ranieri came in What's that got to do with McKenna? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May I think the Kompany and Enzo moves are of course linked to Pep, but probably more taking the gamble now due to how Arsenal have done with Arteta. It's proved scalable. The miss there though is that Arsenal have a great recruitment set up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobyfox Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May 3 minutes ago, Finnegan said: This is pure copium tbh. Mckenna had already had a year at Ipswich, was entrenched with his squad and had confidence and momentum on his side. That Enzo came straight in and immediately broke records with us with little effort with the squad having been sapped of all confidence and morale by Rodgers is frankly remarkable. I think it's really sad that the incompetence of Rudkin and Co will see Enzo leaving after a year and the fans will probably blame the manager for a lot of it and it'll sour how he's viewed here because thy he's been absolutely exceptional. Not sure that you can pin this one on incompetence. What could we really do if Chelsea come knocking? We gave Rodgers a massive contract during similar speculation and that didn’t work out too well for the sustainability of the club. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hejammy Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May 3 minutes ago, westernpark said: If he’s not there for at least 18 months, less than 20 games for Parma, a season with us and failure at Chelsea. Not looking great. It's all about the 💷 and don't let anyone tell you otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmastonFox Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May This tells me we’re getting Chelsea away first game of the season. Manger situation still up in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May 7 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said: Unless he's a lot better man manager than I can give him credit for he is going to struggle with the egos at Chelsea. I predict a sacking. I hope he is sacked as soon as possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTY_FOX Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May 51 minutes ago, merlin1969 said: Start talking to moyes tomorrow Thankfully won't happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May 2 minutes ago, Jobyfox said: Not sure that you can pin this one on incompetence. What could we really do if Chelsea come knocking? We gave Rodgers a massive contract during similar speculation and that didn’t work out too well for the sustainability of the club. Maybe I'm naive but I honestly believe that if Maresca had faith in the long term project here that he'd be staying. Chelsea are frankly a bit barmy and if he'd stayed here and put the time in I think he could be looking at better and more stable jobs. He's spoken passionately about wanting to build something and really work on a project and I think he thought that's what this is. But I also think he got sold a lie and is pissed off about it and largely wants out. Chelsea feels like any port in a storm really. That's not to suggest they aren't a massive club and it isn't a group opportunity in a lot of ways but I just don't think it would have been anywhere near as easy to tempt him if we had a competent sporting director and no pending points deduction blindsiding him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May 4 minutes ago, Number 6 said: I think the Kompany and Enzo moves are of course linked to Pep, but probably more taking the gamble now due to how Arsenal have done with Arteta. It's proved scalable. The miss there though is that Arsenal have a great recruitment set up. Arteta was a game away from being sacked. Arsenal stuck by him. Can't see the same thing happening at Chelsea. Hire and fire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ARTY_FOX Posted 27 May Popular Post Share Posted 27 May State of people in here. I'd be off if I was Enzo aswell reading this shite 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May 12 minutes ago, Finnegan said: think it's really sad that the incompetence of Rudkin and Co will see Enzo leaving after a year and the fans will probably blame the manager for a lot of it and it'll sour how he's viewed here because thy he's been absolutely exceptional He's goes Chelsea even if we are in a good place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesta2014 Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May Anyone at Leicester races? Any sign of anyone like top/whelan/rudkin? After relegation last year whelan was the only one who attended. If so someone’s bound to ask… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weller Wing Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May 49 minutes ago, HoChiMinhFOX said: When was the last time we had a manager poached? O'Neil I think. Think a few clubs were scrambling around for his signature at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May 8 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said: Unless he's a lot better man manager than I can give him credit for he is going to struggle with the egos at Chelsea. I predict a sacking. What egos are we talking about? This isn't a squad of winners? This isn't the John Terry era, there's no Eden Hazards in there. This squad has won nothing. It doesn't have any real superstars. Literally the only player that can flop his bollocks out and give it the big'un is Cole Palmer. And he's been there a year. His namesake is the only player in the side to win anything, and that was with Argentina. And there are enough squad options to sit them out if they kick up a fuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May 4 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Maybe I'm naive but I honestly believe that if Maresca had faith in the long term project here that he'd be staying. You're naive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May 1 hour ago, themightyfin said: My take is Just because there is a release clause it don't automatically mean they want to pay it all. Its not a case of pay it or dint have him. If he wants to go where does that leave you? It's all about negotiation and there's the staff team involved as well who will need releases. So unfortunately no... its not a simple case of "Just paying the release clause" I would imagine they’re negotiating for him and his backroom staff so it would be an overall fee. Ultimately, they want Maresca knowing his release clause so that alone shows there is an element of them willing to pay it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxin_Mad Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May (edited) 2 minutes ago, JimJams said: What egos are we talking about? This isn't a squad of winners? This isn't the John Terry era, there's no Eden Hazards in there. This squad has won nothing. It doesn't have any real superstars. Literally the only player that can flop his bollocks out and give it the big'un is Cole Palmer. And he's been there a year. His namesake is the only player in the side to win anything, and that was with Argentina. And there are enough squad options to sit them out if they kick up a fuss. I think they all think they are better than they are. You only need to look at tgat penalty where they were fighting like teenage girls. It's gonna take some skill to manage a squad that Size with players who think they are it! Edited 27 May by Foxin_Mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May 1 hour ago, themightyfin said: Nobody is paying £50m for any keeper this window. Amd £50m for Winks? I mean...he had a good season but behave. Mads for me is worth £30-£35m with regards to Winks, Chelsea can find a better play than Winks to play that role but he’s worth around £20m realistically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May 12 minutes ago, Number 6 said: I think the Kompany and Enzo moves are of course linked to Pep, but probably more taking the gamble now due to how Arsenal have done with Arteta. It's proved scalable. The miss there though is that Arsenal have a great recruitment set up. Yet look at Fergusons assistants careers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May Enzo leaves I think we have more chance of staying up, because his football would get us stuffed in the prem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May 33 minutes ago, Haywood_6 said: After getting us promoted and winning the title, I would have liked Enzo to stay for another year. Just because he's got to know the club, the players and probably had a good idea where we needed to strengthen this summer. Him leaving now does unsettle us slightly. But let's be honest - he wasn't perfect. One dimensional tactically, refused to change anything. We overcomplicated it at times last season. If we do that again next season - with a slow build up and a high defensive line. We'd be in for a very tough tough season I believe. Also his arrogance was a bit annoying - acting as if no one dare question him about his way of playing. Supporters aren't stupid and we all watch football most weeks. Sometimes, you need a plan B. We take the compensation - and go and find the best replacement we can. This is the best/most logical response I’ve seen on this topic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 27 May Share Posted 27 May (edited) If I was enzo I would take ricky - there are few who can step in to MF like him. Edited 27 May by foxinsocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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