whoareyaaa Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May Just now, Fox92 said: Pochettino is a better manager and, with the same squad, only finished 6th. On the flip side I think you are over rating Enzo. I have said that all season and stand by it now. He did what he needed to do here, but with our budget/facilies/squad any half decent manager would have achieved the same. We will have to agree to disagree. I'll come back at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May 1 minute ago, MPH said: He'll have the money to get the players in he needs. . he'll organize them well and will make them difficult to beat. He did very well at putting square pegs in round holes at Leicester and the average player will have a higher technical ability than what we have. so he is going to be a success. im sure of it. and so many will have egg on their faces., I'm not angry at him or Chelsea for this, im angry with how our financial handlings have allowed this situation to develop. I'm angry at the board. Football is not as easy as a manager managing better players so will be successful. If that was the case then all managers that move to a bigger club would succeed, but they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May Just now, whoareyaaa said: We will have to agree to disagree. I'll come back at the end of the season. See you then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cityfanlee23 Posted 28 May Popular Post Share Posted 28 May Getting rid of Enzo's pet dog Balague has to be one of the greatest silver linings in the history of clouds. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May 3 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said: There is a full season to go off, the style he implements and the way he gets the players playing for him. And yeah at times last season we looked lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May 2 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Football is not as easy as a manager managing better players so will be successful. If that was the case then all managers that move to a bigger club would succeed, but they don't. His attention to detail, studious nature and the type of tactics he prefers will suite the chelsea squad very well. to think he will likely improve that team too, could make things very intresting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May Just now, foxes_rule1978 said: And yeah at times last season we looked lost I don't think so every team has a blip, we won the league. He now has a much better and bigger squad with teams in transition.. no reason he can't get top four 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppys Love Child Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May 3 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said: The worse thing about this is that he will probably make Chelsea good again. Lot of work to do now on our end Maybe... But then again more experienced managers with more success on their CV's haven't cut it at Chelsea. Going to a Dirty 6 club, especially Chelsea, brings a whole new level of pressure and expectance on a manager, and only time will tell if their board (and fans) will cut him some slack when he goes full 'stubborn mode' when things aren't going so well. I wonder also if he'll come out with the same arrogant.. "This is the way Chelsea play, whilst I'm here, and I'll throw my toys out of the pram and leave the next day if questioned" quote. Enjoy going to sleep at matches with EnzoBall Chelsea fans.. You' re going too love it.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2010 Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May Just now, whoareyaaa said: There is a full season to go off, the style he implements and the way he gets the players playing for him. He got our players to go all in on his style and on its day worked so well, i honestly wish him all the best but you look at that Chelsea squad and it is so unbalanced. Chelsea dont seem to care about FFP etc. so he will probably get money to spend but at some point he has to control some massive ego's that are not going to get a look in. Poch came out on record slating the state of the players entourages and how they were more interested in that than playing football, pretty sure all of these players are still about. For Enzo to get to Pep levels (which Chelsea board and fans will now expect) he has a massive job on his hands. He gets it wrong and they will sack him. Time isnt going to be on his side, they need results. Look at the penalty fiasco last season, it was embarrassing, he has to sort the culture out first which if someone like Poch couldn't do i dont see how someone with little experience does, especially when he is likely to have zero input on player sales or incomings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May Hurt more when Little and O'Neill left. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SouthStandUpperTier Posted 28 May Popular Post Share Posted 28 May 7 minutes ago, Hirsty The Blue 94 said: Dunno what reception he will get if he is still in charge by the time we play Chelsea at home I hope he gets a good reception. While I didn't find his 'idea' even remotely entertaining, I understood that getting promoted by any means was imperative to the club's immediate future. In that respect he delivered. He left the club in a better place than he found it and that's all you can ask of any manager really. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May Just now, Marshall Cockney Fox said: No idea. We will see shortly what out situation is. Then people can make an informed decision on whether Enzo's actions were reasonable given the context. Im not blind to the fact that loyalty only goes so far. But one season 🤔🤔 No Ipswich and Southampton are not currently facing points deductions, is the answer so it’s not really comparable with McKennas situation and as you suggested he was much coveted and is staying where he is, that might be also down to the fact he was reportedly told he wasn’t selected for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May 4 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said: Getting rid of Enzo's pet dog Balague has to be one of the greatest silver linings in the history of clouds. Agreed. He got too much involved over Maresca, and seems like moving into English football has built up his ego too much really. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfox Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May Looking forward to seeing him get the sack, after we beat them 1-0 at Stamford Bridge thanks to a Vestergaard overhead kick. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May 1 minute ago, goose2010 said: He got our players to go all in on his style and on its day worked so well, i honestly wish him all the best but you look at that Chelsea squad and it is so unbalanced. Chelsea dont seem to care about FFP etc. so he will probably get money to spend but at some point he has to control some massive ego's that are not going to get a look in. Poch came out on record slating the state of the players entourages and how they were more interested in that than playing football, pretty sure all of these players are still about. For Enzo to get to Pep levels (which Chelsea board and fans will now expect) he has a massive job on his hands. He gets it wrong and they will sack him. Time isnt going to be on his side, they need results. Look at the penalty fiasco last season, it was embarrassing, he has to sort the culture out first which if someone like Poch couldn't do i dont see how someone with little experience does, especially when he is likely to have zero input on player sales or incomings. I would say that's one of his biggest assets getting the players on board and then implementing that style while being able to sign players to fit that style, I don't see how it can go wrong. Chelsea have been a mess yes and Poch is a more experienced manager but Enzo has an aurora about him that Poch doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonb Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May Just now, kingfox said: Looking forward to seeing him get the sack, after we beat them 1-0 at Stamford Bridge thanks to a Vestergaard overhead kick. And a Coady masterclass in defence.. I'd imagine Connor fancies his chances of impressing a new manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fazzyfox Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May Come on fixture computer......you know what to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May (edited) 11 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said: I don't think so every team has a blip, we won the league. He now has a much better and bigger squad with teams in transition.. no reason he can't get top four He is also up against much better teams and managers. At a level he hasn’t managed at before, with such high expectations the job isn’t as straight forward as having great players so top 4 nailed on he will find his plan A working far less at such a higher level and need to adapt accordingly Edited 28 May by foxes_rule1978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfox Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May Just now, Simonb said: And a Coady masterclass in defence.. I'd imagine Connor fancies his chances of impressing a new manager A back three of Coady - Vestergaard - Souttar grinding out a 1-0 victory at Stamford Bridge 💉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozleicester Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May Congrats Rudkin... genius 12 months 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May 12 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said: Getting rid of Enzo's pet dog Balague has to be one of the greatest silver linings in the history of clouds. Actually more interested to watch Balague now fumble his way through the sh1t show that is Chelsea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May (edited) 2 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said: He is also up against much better teams and managers. At a level he hasn’t managed at before, with such high expectations the job isn’t as straight forward as having great players so top 4 nailed on Yes he is but he also has much better players available, I don't think it matters if he has managed at this level before he spent a full season in the Championship ( the hardest league in the world )and was Peps assistant for a season so he will know what to expect. It's not like he has just came from abroad and has no idea how English football works. Edited 28 May by whoareyaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriderHiryu Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May 6 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Hurt more when Little and O'Neill left. Very much agree. Those two built a connection with the fans. I think there is a bit of an overreaction to Enzo leaving and some unnecessary hate. He came in and did the job he was asked to do, and gave us some good times and memories. That Preston away game will go down as a great experience. At the same time, he wasn't hear for that long and didn't overperform or achieve miracles. I'd add Ranieri to that list, even though he had to go, and Pearson who was unlucky to go and did great things for us. Enzo leaving definitely hurts more than Rodgers going though! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countesthorpe Fox 1884 12 Posted 28 May Share Posted 28 May Not that anyone is in any doubt but was pretty sure his bio was more extensive than this 😂 https://www.lcfc.com/teams/staff/men?lang=en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 28 May Author Share Posted 28 May Chelsea will win the league next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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