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Who do you want for next season in the PL

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8 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no 

Keyboard got stuck? 

 

But I do agree, a massive no from me.

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6 hours ago, enmac said:

Pepe, soon to be out of contract. Would strengthen our defense 100%.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/pepe/profil/spieler/14132

Wrong type of player we need. He would upset the team at some point. He'll want a massive wage for his last hoorah. Another @Muzzy_no7 style no

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23 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no 

Yes?

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15 hours ago, fox_favourite said:

Wrong type of player we need. He would upset the team at some point. He'll want a massive wage for his last hoorah. Another @Muzzy_no7 style no

‘A wonderful example’ – Pepe takes Euro 2024 by storm at the age of 41 https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jun/23/a-wonderful-example-pepe-takes-euros-by-storm-at-the-age-of-41?CMP=share_btn_url

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Due to our money problems we will have to look at low cost players with good re-sell values so with that in mind hear are 3 championship players that impressed last season. cheap buys !!!!!!

Sammie Szmodics   £5m

Callum O'Hare   £2.5m OOC

Joyb Bellingham  £12m

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10 minutes ago, grumpy old git said:

Due to our money problems we will have to look at low cost players with good re-sell values so with that in mind hear are 3 championship players that impressed last season. cheap buys !!!!!!

Sammie Szmodics   £5m

Callum O'Hare   £2.5m

Joyb Bellingham  £12m

You’d have to add a 1 before the 5 with Szmodics and O’Hares on a free. 
 

Spot on apart from that. 

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12 minutes ago, grumpy old git said:

Due to our money problems we will have to look at low cost players with good re-sell values so with that in mind hear are 3 championship players that impressed last season. cheap buys !!!!!!

Sammie Szmodics   £5m

Callum O'Hare   £2.5m

Joyb Bellingham  £12m

Good thing you aren't in charge if we have money problems and you're giving Cov 2.5 million for an out of contract player. You also wouldn't get anywhere near Szmodics for 5

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4 hours ago, MPH said:

what’s all this about then?

 

 

The Premier League has warned clubs that selling players to and from each other in order to comply with financial rules could breach regulations about acting in good faith. (Times - subscription required)

 

Prem upset about clubs overtly taking steps to get around PSR but there are no rules preventing them doing what they have done. 

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17 hours ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Good thing you aren't in charge if we have money problems and you're giving Cov 2.5 million for an out of contract player. You also wouldn't get anywhere near Szmodics for 5

Prices were taken from upto date Transfer market website valuations, for use as a guide only.

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We should look at this lad Prass playing for Austria.  Had a great season for Sturm Graz and would not cost that much.

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17 hours ago, MPH said:

what’s all this about then?

 

 

The Premier League has warned clubs that selling players to and from each other in order to comply with financial rules could breach regulations about acting in good faith. (Times - subscription required)

 

Some big clubs involved so highly unlikely anything will be done. Would be typical PL to let it slide for a window of time, then close the loophole before others take advantage.

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On 25/06/2024 at 00:25, MPH said:

what’s all this about then?

 

 

The Premier League has warned clubs that selling players to and from each other in order to comply with financial rules could breach regulations about acting in good faith. (Times - subscription required)

 

 

TLDR: real life football clubs are doing cheesy transfers like it's Football Manager. 

 

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When you buy a player, you can amortise the cost across every year of his contract. So if he costs 25m and you give him a 5 year contract, he only "costs" you 5m a year in FFP terms - including the year you buy him - and only 15m in any rolling three year FFP window.

 

Where as if you sell a player for 25m, as long as he has no existing book value (long story short, your own academy products for example) all of that money you received goes in the income column that same season. 

 

So what's happening is that Aston Villa sell an academy player to Chelsea for 25m and Chelsea sell one back to Villa for 25m. 

 

In practical terms, neither club has really lost or gained anything. They both trade potential youngsters like an American sports team might and they both theoretically send the same money back and forth. 

 

But both clubs GAIN 20m immediately this year in net profit as far as FFP is concerned. Of course the trade off is that they then deduct 5m in every subsequent season for the next few years as well but it's a short term papering over the cracks because new laws are coming in and Villa, Newcastle, Chelsea, Everton and a whole bunch of other clubs are EXTREMELY aware they're going to be immediately in the shit if they don't very quickly dump some numbers in the win column right now. 

 

This is why we've been linked to Sean Longstaff for ages and why KDH has loads of rumours for a move. Because even if we sell Dewsbury Hall and immediately blow a bunch of the money on Longstaff, it's about making profit NOW and kicking the rest of your problems down the road. 

 

To be clear, this isn't actually smart business, you're kicking your future self in the dick and you're going to regret it next year unless you keep repeating the process indefinitely with increasing value. If you swap those players back the following season for 50m and then 100m and then 150m or whatever then sure it works forever but the league are clearly not going to allow that.

 

What they're saying here is that they feel the existing rules about transfers in good faith already closed the loophole but we all know they'll never punish these clubs if enough of them do it, especially if Chelsea and the Saudis are involved. 

 

 

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