Popular Post st albans fox Posted 26 February Popular Post Share Posted 26 February 7 hours ago, Daggers said: If you can’t speak in public and convince people of your ideas then what good are you? “Decent, good intelligent” people who want to impose their genius on populations without scrutiny are more than slightly troubling. 1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said: Like Dominic Cummings, wants to rip up the civil service without doing any of the hard work of a) getting elected and put in a position of power or b) working his way up through the civil service. Oh and taking zero accountability for anything. Its not really a positive. If you cannot by the time you are in your 40s stand up and speak about what you think you can bring to running the country then politics was never for you. You sort of both miss my point somewhat as politics becomes more and more about who looks good and sounds good infront of a tv screen, this is the pre requisite for deciding who makes the decisions on our future. it’s not about who is the brightest with a vision - it’s about who is the most charismatic. I’m sure this is one of the reasons why we have such poor politics around the world with people who we generally think simply aren’t up to it 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 26 February Share Posted 26 February 28 minutes ago, st albans fox said: You sort of both miss my point somewhat as politics becomes more and more about who looks good and sounds good infront of a tv screen, this is the pre requisite for deciding who makes the decisions on our future. it’s not about who is the brightest with a vision - it’s about who is the most charismatic. I’m sure this is one of the reasons why we have such poor politics around the world with people who we generally think simply aren’t up to it I'm, not sure I agree, I think we have a lack of talented people because one can have a much nicer life in just about any other career and people who make good politicians have those choices available to them. Treat people like shit long enough and you put everyone off. Not the only career which lacks the respect it should deserve in the modern age, but certainly one of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 26 February Share Posted 26 February 1 hour ago, st albans fox said: You sort of both miss my point somewhat as politics becomes more and more about who looks good and sounds good infront of a tv screen, this is the pre requisite for deciding who makes the decisions on our future. it’s not about who is the brightest with a vision - it’s about who is the most charismatic. I’m sure this is one of the reasons why we have such poor politics around the world with people who we generally think simply aren’t up to it *Sunak and Starmer enter chat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 26 February Share Posted 26 February Just now, Daggers said: *Sunak and Starmer enter chat illustrates just how vacuous this country is ………. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 26 February Share Posted 26 February 1 minute ago, st albans fox said: illustrates just how vacuous this country is ………. I disagree, but this is only a forum so my opinion is pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav Le Bleu Posted 26 February Author Share Posted 26 February 4 hours ago, Jon the Hat said: I'm, not sure I agree, I think we have a lack of talented people because one can have a much nicer life in just about any other career and people who make good politicians have those choices available to them. Treat people like shit long enough and you put everyone off. Not the only career which lacks the respect it should deserve in the modern age, but certainly one of them. Ironically (are you paying attention Alanis?), the advert immediately beneath this on my screen was for paid asthma trials. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 26 February Share Posted 26 February Angela Raynor works incredibly hard. Buys council house at 25% discount - gets herself on the housing ladder. Angela Rayner sells council house naturally makes a profit. Angela Raynor works even harder and becomes shadow deputy PM. Angela Raynor calls for review of right to buy but emphasises that council tenants should have the right to purchase their council homes. The review should be around whether the scheme appropriately replaces stock - therefore not contributing to what is (for many an unbearable housing crisis). How are the Tories using this as a stick to beat her with ? They are literally clutching at straws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted 26 February Share Posted 26 February 18 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: Angela Raynor works incredibly hard. Buys council house at 25% discount - gets herself on the housing ladder. Angela Rayner sells council house naturally makes a profit. Angela Raynor works even harder and becomes shadow deputy PM. Angela Raynor calls for review of right to buy but emphasises that council tenants should have the right to purchase their council homes. The review should be around whether the scheme appropriately replaces stock - therefore not contributing to what is (for many an unbearable housing crisis). How are the Tories using this as a stick to beat her with ? They are literally clutching at straws. Its over the other house she lived in, also purchased on a right to buy. She has been accused of not actually living at the house she bought for the 5 years after she bought it to move in with her partner at the time. The suggested reforms seem reasonable enough, though its interesting she wants to reduce the discount offered which will presumably dissuade people from buying them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav Le Bleu Posted 26 February Author Share Posted 26 February I've done a quick fact check and I can confirm that Lee Anderson is correct. Sadiq Khan IS the mayor of London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 26 February Share Posted 26 February 7 hours ago, Jon the Hat said: I'm, not sure I agree, I think we have a lack of talented people because one can have a much nicer life in just about any other career and people who make good politicians have those choices available to them. Treat people like shit long enough and you put everyone off. Not the only career which lacks the respect it should deserve in the modern age, but certainly one of them. Hmm.. forgive me for being Naive, but i was hoping politicians didn't see being an MP as just another Job. I hoped it was for the samne reason people enter the Care industry.. they wanted to make a difference.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnfox Posted 26 February Share Posted 26 February 1 hour ago, MPH said: Hmm.. forgive me for being Naive, but i was hoping politicians didn't see being an MP as just another Job. I hoped it was for the samne reason people enter the Care industry.. they wanted to make a difference.. Some people get into politics to genuinely make a difference, on both sides of the house. Unfortunately there are lots of aspects that would make the career appealing to people who put "making a difference" as a low priority. You get media exposure, power, influence and more. What's more of a pity, is that those that put themselves forward for life on the front benches are often of the personality type that seeks power and influence over anything else. The media scrutiny that comes with those positions I can imagine would put most sensible people off. I would be much happier with boring, sensible politicians, but in this social media driven, reality TV society that we live in, voted win prizes, and popularity, not sensible policy, wins votes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 26 February Share Posted 26 February 9 hours ago, MPH said: Hmm.. forgive me for being Naive, but i was hoping politicians didn't see being an MP as just another Job. I hoped it was for the samne reason people enter the Care industry.. they wanted to make a difference.. I hope so too, but my point is that there are other jobs which would also make you feel you were making a difference without the awful side dish of vitriol and abuse which seem to be standard for politicians these days. Interestingly I had dinner with a Western Australia minister, mla (mp) and the ministers chief of staff last night, and the chief of staff who would no doubt make an excellent politician with passion and purpose was very clear that he won’t do so because the sacrifice is too much. Sad state of affairs imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l444ry Posted 27 February Share Posted 27 February 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 27 February Share Posted 27 February 1 hour ago, l444ry said: They've been churning out some belters over the last few years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 27 February Share Posted 27 February 22 hours ago, nnfox said: Some people get into politics to genuinely make a difference, on both sides of the house. Unfortunately there are lots of aspects that would make the career appealing to people who put "making a difference" as a low priority. You get media exposure, power, influence and more. What's more of a pity, is that those that put themselves forward for life on the front benches are often of the personality type that seeks power and influence over anything else. The media scrutiny that comes with those positions I can imagine would put most sensible people off. I would be much happier with boring, sensible politicians, but in this social media driven, reality TV society that we live in, voted win prizes, and popularity, not sensible policy, wins votes. I agree that some shallow members of the public confuse the voting for politicians with some vacuous reality tv nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 27 February Share Posted 27 February To be fair the Tories deserve all the reciprocated gloating that comes their way with regards to their current downfall. I seem to remember a significant about of glee being thrown around with regards to the Corbyn implosion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 27 February Share Posted 27 February (edited) I remember saying several weeks ago that with the Presidential election looming, Donald Trump didn't need to focus so much on gaining the middle ground vote, although of course they will play a part, and he will try to, but the reality was that there will be so many disillusioned Democratic voters that Biden needs to persuade them to get out and vote. I fully believe Trump will likely win the election with a smaller vote than what he got in 2016. It looks like there will be a lot of 'protest' votes over their stance in Gaza. Many will be marking their ballots ' uncomitted' https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68409546 https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/2024-election/dems-uncommitted-vote-michigan/ Edited 27 February by MPH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2607 Posted 27 February Share Posted 27 February 41 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: I agree that some shallow most members of the public confuse the voting for politicians with some vacuous reality tv nonsense. fixed it for you... the "average" member of the public doesn't engage with politics. definitely not outside of an election process and mainly through what they read in the press.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 27 February Share Posted 27 February 12 minutes ago, Greg2607 said: fixed it for you... the "average" member of the public doesn't engage with politics. definitely not outside of an election process and mainly through what they read in the press.... I was trying to be over kind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 27 February Share Posted 27 February a Bit of positivity... Wealthy Donor donates 1bn dollars to a university and announces that it will become a tuition free college.. Students reaction: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68374453 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 27 February Share Posted 27 February 24 minutes ago, MPH said: a Bit of positivity... Wealthy Donor donates 1bn dollars to a university and announces that it will become a tuition free college.. Students reaction: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68374453 Last year's graduates: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellend Sebastian Posted 27 February Share Posted 27 February LOLZ etc https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-68414524 Screw these guys sky high, in the strongest possible terms 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox in the North Posted 27 February Share Posted 27 February Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboFox Posted 27 February Share Posted 27 February 5 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said: LOLZ etc https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-68414524 Screw these guys sky high, in the strongest possible terms This has made my day. Scum that need to be made an example of. Sincerely hope the cost of the rebuild absolutely ruins them, THEN they sent to the clink for the arson and planning regulation breaches. Throw the book at them. No doubt they'll probably try and file for insolvency or wriggle out of it. People like these cvnts boil my piss. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parafox Posted 27 February Share Posted 27 February When a city council goes bust: 'It was inevitable': What Birmingham city council cuts mean for residents | ITV News Central Scary stuff for the residents of Leicester if this is anything to go by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts