st albans fox Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July 3 minutes ago, MPH said: Harris is an interesting one… she’s actually not very popular within the Democratic Party but I imagine would be with the voters… but imagine making the effort to go out and vote for Biden as your candidate only to have someone else take his place.. would that weaken your desire to go and vote for that person? I don’t think it makes any difference to the democrats but the swing voters that they need to get hold of may not go for her. FWIW, a lot of those target votes are women so you’d think a big chunk would be supportive (given who she’d be up against) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July 13 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Surely that’s got to reflect on Adam if he’s actually charged ??? He’ll just say it’s evidence of a pro-Israeli/genocide conspiracy and people will lap it up. By all accounts he wasn’t plotting attacks or the like, just encouraging stuff which could/should be perceived as extremist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July 4 minutes ago, Lionator said: He’ll just say it’s evidence of a pro-Israeli/genocide conspiracy and people will lap it up. By all accounts he wasn’t plotting attacks or the like, just encouraging stuff which could/should be perceived as extremist. it depends on his relationship with freeman. if it’s close then I reckon he will struggle to be heard in Westminster - the speaker will blank him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torquay Gunner Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July (edited) 1 hour ago, MPH said: Harris is an interesting one… she’s actually not very popular within the Democratic Party but I imagine would be with the voters… but imagine making the effort to go out and vote for Biden as your candidate only to have someone else take his place.. would that weaken your desire to go and vote for that person? Not if your major objective is to keep Trump out of the White House, which I would imagine would be a strong motivator for most democrats or indeed many independents(hopefully). Edited 10 July by Torquay Gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July Poor guy. “As we've just reported, the three women killed in a crossbow attack in Bushey, near Watford, are Carol Hunt, the wife of the BBC commentator John Hunt, and two of their daughters.“ To lose 3 members of your family in such circumstances. Horrible. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zear0 Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July 13 minutes ago, Super_horns said: Poor guy. “As we've just reported, the three women killed in a crossbow attack in Bushey, near Watford, are Carol Hunt, the wife of the BBC commentator John Hunt, and two of their daughters.“ To lose 3 members of your family in such circumstances. Horrible. So grim, hope they catch him soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July (edited) Never mind Edited 10 July by Tuna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July 21 minutes ago, Zear0 said: So grim, hope they catch him soon. Gut-wrenching story. A rejected ex-boyfriend of one of the daughters...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July 48 minutes ago, Super_horns said: Poor guy. “As we've just reported, the three women killed in a crossbow attack in Bushey, near Watford, are Carol Hunt, the wife of the BBC commentator John Hunt, and two of their daughters.“ To lose 3 members of your family in such circumstances. Horrible. Oh Jesus. Absolutely horrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramboacdc Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July 15 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Gut-wrenching story. A rejected ex-boyfriend of one of the daughters...? The ages line up, but it would all be conjecture until this see's a trial or something like that. You have to feel for John and his other daughter. Apparently John was the one who got home around 7pm and raised the alarm on it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy G Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July Just now, ramboacdc said: The ages line up, but it would all be conjecture until this see's a trial or something like that. You have to feel for John and his other daughter. Apparently John was the one who got home around 7pm and raised the alarm on it all. I've seen a pic of him onine with his arm round one of the daughters so looks that way.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jattdogg Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July Fook sakes with a crossbow how horrible. I mean any manner of murder is but yikes. Such a senseless loss of life. My heart goes out to the guy and his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July Just ****ing awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy G Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July 3 minutes ago, Jattdogg said: Fook sakes with a crossbow how horrible. I mean any manner of murder is but yikes. Such a senseless loss of life. My heart goes out to the guy and his family. Can't comprehend someone owning a cross bow number 1, let alone using it to kill 3 people - you have to reload the thing, that means the final moments of all 3 victims would of been horiffic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July (edited) Hope he just doesn't kill himself, do the right thing in handing himself in and face real justice from this. Edited 10 July by Wymsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July 1 hour ago, ramboacdc said: The ages line up, but it would all be conjecture until this see's a trial or something like that. You have to feel for John and his other daughter. Apparently John was the one who got home around 7pm and raised the alarm on it all. He is an ex boyfriend of one of the daughters. Whether that means an actual boyfriend or spurned will no doubt come out over time. people are talking down here - friends of friends etc etc Just horrific 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July He’s been found by police not confirmed if he’s alive or dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July The council have got a point here, but it just feels like punishment for the locals who are only trying to help their communities. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cldyny34kx4o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July 2 minutes ago, Wymsey said: The council have got a point here, but it just feels like punishment for the locals who are only trying to help their communities. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cldyny34kx4o Quote City councillor Amjid Wazir said the authority considered the matter resolved. Cheers Councillor Wazir. I suspect they won't be voting for him in the future! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July (edited) 28 minutes ago, st albans fox said: He’s been found by police not confirmed if he’s alive or dead The BBC aren't saying anything on it, though? Edit: Also there's an ambulance reported at Enfield Cemetery.. Edited 10 July by Wymsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jattdogg Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July 21 minutes ago, Wymsey said: The BBC aren't saying anything on it, though? Edit: Also there's an ambulance reported at Enfield Cemetery.. Read that this guy's brother is in jail for murder as well. The fook is wrong with this family? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/10/suspected-crossbow-killer-kyle-clifford-brother-murderer/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July 21 minutes ago, Wymsey said: The BBC aren't saying anything on it, though? Possibly decided to limit/change style of coverage considering the victim’s family is a colleague. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July Just now, urban.spaceman said: Possibly decided to limit/change style of coverage considering the victim’s family is a colleague. That could well be true, didn't think of that - thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July 1 hour ago, st albans fox said: He’s been found by police not confirmed if he’s alive or dead ITK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie the Fox Posted 10 July Share Posted 10 July https://news.sky.com/story/kyle-clifford-manhunt-latest-murdered-women-were-alive-when-ambulances-arrived-13175961 Apprehended and taken to hospital with some injuries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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