marbles Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July (edited) 30 minutes ago, reporterpenguin said: The whole thing is just really sad to see unfold. Everything about his behaviour at the moment takes me back to when my Grandad was developing Alzheimer's. Not just the symptoms but the insistence that everything is fine and a refusal to accept anything that shows it isn't fine. I don’t think it’s him that fully refuses to accept he’s done. I think it’s his wife pushing him to continue - which won’t be much longer if the reports of donors withholding close to 90million from his campaign, are true. Edited 13 July by marbles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July 19 hours ago, Sampson said: Just been reading about Project 2025 on bbc and Wikipedia. Surely hope that is a conspiracy and the checks and balances that hold up democracy would work to stop it. https://bbc.com/news/articles/c977njnvq2do the checks and balances are long since gone in the US, let's be fair. political appointments to the supreme Court and judges that won't recuse themselves in cases of conflicts of interest (AoCs introduced articles of impeachment for two of them), it's set up for a complete power grab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbles Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July 56 minutes ago, The Doctor said: the checks and balances are long since gone in the US, let's be fair. political appointments to the supreme Court and judges that won't recuse themselves in cases of conflicts of interest (AoCs introduced articles of impeachment for two of them), it's set up for a complete power grab Ahh yes. AOC and her hypocrisy hard at work. Wonder if she will also introduce articles of impeachment against the NY judge in the Trump trial. After all, donating to Biden would also be considered a conflict…….but you know, we won’t worry about that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellend Sebastian Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July 3 hours ago, reporterpenguin said: I listen to it and that was my take away from the latest episode as well. It sounds as though everybody (with the exception of the Biden's) has privately accepted he cannot run. Once more of them make their feelings publicly known his position will quickly become even more untenable than it currently is. The Clooney article sounds as though it could be a key tipping point, especially as Obama allegedly signed off on it. A quick look at oddschecker shows the odds have now moved Biden into 3rd place for winning the election, with Harris ahead of him but behind Trump. The whole thing is just really sad to see unfold. Everything about his behaviour at the moment takes me back to when my Grandad was developing Alzheimer's. Not just the symptoms but the insistence that everything is fine and a refusal to accept anything that shows it isn't fine. My parents are both in their 80s and remarkably well for their age but it would be ridiculous to say they could do a job with any level of responsibility. You'd have to be in exceptionally good nick to do that and it's increasingly ridiculous to suggest that Biden is. I agree, age related decline is a dreadful thing and in those around Biden should be doing what they can to make sure this doesn't play out too publicly and maintain his dignity. His pride is understandable though 2 hours ago, marbles said: I don’t think it’s him that fully refuses to accept he’s done. I think it’s his wife pushing him to continue - which won’t be much longer if the reports of donors withholding close to 90million from his campaign, are true. Yeah, when I heard about the donors I thought that forces everyone's hand really, doesn't it? Press pack apparently unhappy as well: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/13/biden-white-house-health-reporters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July (edited) 1 hour ago, Bellend Sebastian said: Press pack apparently unhappy as well: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/13/biden-white-house-health-reporters bit of self entitlement by the press pack there… They are happy to be part of misleading the people when it somehow suites their cause but when THEY feel mislead they’ll cry foul. That part doesn’t sit well with me. Edited 13 July by MPH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbles Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July 11 minutes ago, MPH said: bit of self entitlement by the press pack there… They are happy to be part of misleading the people when it somehow suites their cause but when THEY feel mislead they’ll cry foul. That part doesn’t sit well with me. Is this the same press who a few weeks ago were reporting that all the videos of Bidens goofs, were fake? Rats abandoning a sinking ship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July 9 minutes ago, marbles said: Is this the same press who a few weeks ago were reporting that all the videos of Bidens goofs, were fake? Rats abandoning a sinking ship. have to say that I think Trump is playing a blinder here by staying remarkably quiet ( for him) on this particular issue, whilst the Dems fight amongst themselves. “ why take the shovel away whilst they dig their own hole” I believe it was Ron Bonjean, a former senator said Recently.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbles Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July 1 minute ago, MPH said: have to say that I think Trump is playing a blinder here by staying remarkably quiet ( for him) on this particular issue, whilst the Dems fight amongst themselves. “ why take the shovel away whilst they dig their own hole” I believe it was Ron Bonjean, a former senator said Recently.. I have to believe he’s hoping Biden can withstand the pressure. Harris is no worry for him either - she has somehow managed to become one of the most disliked people in this country. Someone else could be all it takes to make this a very tight race. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesDeb Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July Nice to see you back @marbles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbles Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July Just now, FoxesDeb said: Nice to see you back @marbles Heyy there @FoxesDeb. Got myself a little ban from here (who knew saying a person is innocent until proven guilty was a bad thing - the UK is a strange country) Then decided this would not be an enjoyable place to be after relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July Heard that Biden often refers to him as "Chris Woods" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritwalker Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July If the new Labour government is serious about sorting the scandalous water companies they should employ Feargul Sharkey in some capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July 35 minutes ago, marbles said: I have to believe he’s hoping Biden can withstand the pressure. Harris is no worry for him either - she has somehow managed to become one of the most disliked people in this country. Someone else could be all it takes to make this a very tight race. in a country that still even to this day needs to embrace diversity, I’d like to think there was someone other than an ‘ old white man’ who could lead them. I mean, you want the best person for the job, of course... but yeah, shame about Harris. From what I understand, she’s a thoroughly dislikable person… but then again.. so is trump, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July Yeah! Let’s get them whilst they’re young! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbles Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July 1 minute ago, MPH said: in a country that still even to this day needs to embrace diversity, I’d like to think there was someone other than an ‘ old white man’ who could lead them. I mean, you want the best person for the job, of course... but yeah, shame about Harris. From what I understand, she’s a thoroughly dislikable person… but then again.. so is trump, imho. I honestly though Harris was the wrong pick 4 years ago. She never seems comfortable on camera and I thought her “tough on crime” past would come back to bite her in the ass from democratic voters - I was wrong. Currently no one likes Harris. Trump is not liked by half the population, but I seriously believe that a good number of those that don’t like him couldn’t tell you why not without falling back on simple Dem talking points/crutch words. To this day, I still think Tulsi Gabbard was the best candidate. Not sure who the Dems will trot out now. But the best figure that out quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July He looks like he's dressed like an Evil Human Shrek. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July 35 minutes ago, marbles said: I honestly though Harris was the wrong pick 4 years ago. She never seems comfortable on camera and I thought her “tough on crime” past would come back to bite her in the ass from democratic voters - I was wrong. Currently no one likes Harris. Trump is not liked by half the population, but I seriously believe that a good number of those that don’t like him couldn’t tell you why not without falling back on simple Dem talking points/crutch words. To this day, I still think Tulsi Gabbard was the best candidate. Not sure who the Dems will trot out now. But the best figure that out quick. Just like the republicans, their party seems to be encamped into two parts these days and the canyon between the two seems to be getting wider.. it’s going to be hard to unite the party let alone the democratic vote.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbles Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July (edited) 5 minutes ago, MPH said: Just like the republicans, their party seems to be encamped into two parts these days and the canyon between the two seems to be getting wider.. it’s going to be hard to unite the party let alone the democratic vote.. Maybe thats the answer - split both parties into 4 separate parties Edited 13 July by marbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_up_north Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July I have an American friend who is very typically un-American. He's lived in Europe, speaks Dutch and a bit of French, now in England. He's got no interest in guns. I'd firmly put him as a Democrat. He cannot stand Harris and says none of his friends like her. She is absolutely not winning an election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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urban.spaceman Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July 1 minute ago, Facecloth said: Now is not the time to talk about gun control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July (edited) Not being funny but wouldn’t bullets do more damage than that? Maybe more like fire crackers? Edited 13 July by Lionator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July Just now, Lionator said: Not being funny but wouldn’t bullets do more damage than that? Maybe more like fire crackers? Also thought he was holding the wrong ear. Wouldn't the shots come from the main crowd, the direction of the camera, not the group behind him on the stage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July 1 minute ago, Facecloth said: Also thought he was holding the wrong ear. Wouldn't the shots come from the main crowd, the direction of the camera, not the group behind him on the stage? I dunno I’m not willing to go into conspiracy, there’s plenty of reason for average Joe who owns a gun to want him dead haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 13 July Share Posted 13 July BBC suggesting reports of shots coming from outside the arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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