Popular Post fox_up_north Posted 14 July Popular Post Share Posted 14 July I must admit to trying not to be bitter this past year. My dad died last August, aged 55, of completely undiagnosed cancer. He spent 30+ years in the military, survived Afghanistan, worked to improve LGBT acceptance in the military and had hundreds at his funeral. Yet, my friend has an alcoholic mum who has never worked, done a bit of time, smokes 30 a day and is still going at around 65. But still being an absolute drain on everyone because she doesn't listen to advice. Same for Trump. Doesn't look after himself, isn't very nice at all, is actually convicted of crime. As I say - trying hard not to feel a little bit bitter about all this but it's increasingly difficult. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jon the Hat Posted 14 July Popular Post Share Posted 14 July 3 minutes ago, fox_up_north said: I must admit to trying not to be bitter this past year. My dad died last August, aged 55, of completely undiagnosed cancer. He spent 30+ years in the military, survived Afghanistan, worked to improve LGBT acceptance in the military and had hundreds at his funeral. Yet, my friend has an alcoholic mum who has never worked, done a bit of time, smokes 30 a day and is still going at around 65. But still being an absolute drain on everyone because she doesn't listen to advice. Same for Trump. Doesn't look after himself, isn't very nice at all, is actually convicted of crime. As I say - trying hard not to feel a little bit bitter about all this but it's increasingly difficult. The difference is you can be bloody proud of your Dad. People like him change the world for the better. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July 55 minutes ago, Bert said: He looks exactly how you’d imagine him to look. Images are being circulated online of somebody called Thomas Matthew Crooks, but it seems to be the wrong Thomas Matthew Crooks. The guy in the images has posted a video admitting that’s his name and that he hates Trump, but proving that he’s clearly not the shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July Just wild that you can possess a weapon that is so lethal from such range. Might as well just make missiles legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July Pew pew! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July Well this has certainly given a strange start to England winning the Euro’s day hasn’t it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAKC20 Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July 3 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: Well this has certainly given a strange start to England winning the Euro’s day hasn’t it. I hope the England forwards can shoot better later 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StanSP Posted 14 July Popular Post Share Posted 14 July 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox in the North Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarehamFox Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July As bad with a gun as Harry Dunne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July 30 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Images are being circulated online of somebody called Thomas Matthew Crooks, but it seems to be the wrong Thomas Matthew Crooks. The guy in the images has posted a video admitting that’s his name and that he hates Trump, but proving that he’s clearly not the shooter. Where did you see that? Frightening for the guy if his photo is being falsely shared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July 4 hours ago, Sly said: Ah, good point. I’d forgotten JFK. As well as attempt on Reagan and Ford. Before JFK attempts made on Truman and FDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July 6 hours ago, Finnegan said: No shooting does that. Him legitimately losing the election because the American people overwhelming vote against a rapist, fascist, traitor with extremely blatant links to Vladimir Putin is what does that. Actually locking him up for the very real crimes he's committed does that. Shooting at him just strengthens his position and inspires god only knows what in revenge from his hardline support. It's a completely senseless and unpleasant thing to do. Your faith in the American electorate and justice system is warming but I can’t help thinking it’s misplaced. Donald Trump is winning this election, he was before yesterday and he still is. And he’s demonstrated that he personally is a huge threat to democracy in the USA, I definitely used to come down on the same side as you - that political assassination doesn’t achieve anything - but there’s some world leaders you look at and think ‘there’s no way this country could find someone worse’ As you say, it’s strengthened his position and serves as an excuse for him and his base to go further, which is an absolute nightmare. Appreciate this sounds hideously callous, but the timing is absolutely senseless and braindead. Doing this during an election campaign regardless of whether it was successful or not was always likely to help a pretty vile Republican party improve their chances of Presidential/House/Senate success. I’m not sure the act itself was senseless, just because Trump is a pretty unique combination of evil with the power to implement it, though I appreciate it’s a horrible position to hold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July 58 minutes ago, StanSP said: Pew pew! Dude decided to use the new powers the supreme court found the president to have, but Seal Team Six were busy washing their hair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgtuk Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July Today is one of those days where I’m glad I’m not on any social media (apart from here of course) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July Surprised this hasn’t happened before given the tension around Trump . Obviously not good for people to get killed and injured though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July 24 minutes ago, Mark_w said: Your faith in the American electorate and justice system is warming but I can’t help thinking it’s misplaced. Donald Trump is winning this election, he was before yesterday and he still is. And he’s demonstrated that he personally is a huge threat to democracy in the USA, I definitely used to come down on the same side as you - that political assassination doesn’t achieve anything - but there’s some world leaders you look at and think ‘there’s no way this country could find someone worse’ As you say, it’s strengthened his position and serves as an excuse for him and his base to go further, which is an absolute nightmare. Appreciate this sounds hideously callous, but the timing is absolutely senseless and braindead. Doing this during an election campaign regardless of whether it was successful or not was always likely to help a pretty vile Republican party improve their chances of Presidential/House/Senate success. I’m not sure the act itself was senseless, just because Trump is a pretty unique combination of evil with the power to implement it, though I appreciate it’s a horrible position to hold. Was he not behind in the polling up til yesterday despite every media outlet dog piling Biden and ignoring all of Trumps gaffes, glossing over Cannon and the Supreme Court corrupting the justice system for him and fresh allegations of crimes alongside Epstein? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July 2 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Was he not behind in the polling up til yesterday despite every media outlet dog piling Biden and ignoring all of Trumps gaffes, glossing over Cannon and the Supreme Court corrupting the justice system for him and fresh allegations of crimes alongside Epstein? I don't believe so, I think he's been polling above Biden for months. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July If the pictures I've seen are accurate then it's pretty bad failure in security that he wasn't spotted prior to shooting? And the from image he looks every bit the stereotypical American shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Finnegan Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July 3 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said: If the pictures I've seen are accurate then it's pretty bad failure in security that he wasn't spotted prior to shooting? And the from image he looks every bit the stereotypical American shooter. He's literally wearing the t-shirt of a conservative gun nut's YouTube channel and sitting on an exposed roof in an area crawling with snipers. And apparently bystanders spotted him and told the police. It isn't an entirely good look for the secret service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July Wouldn't be surprised if the shooter was a loner, failed by the authorities and his parents failed to have any concerns about their wellbeing - like some of the lone-shooter culprits in the country in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hankey Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July This news should come as no surprise. Better men, indeed Presidents, have been assassinated in the US before now. In fact given Trump is such a divisive individual and the millions of guns swilling about in the US I'm amazed it hasn't happened before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torquay Gunner Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July I can’t see this as being the last attempt on Trump’s life. Since he’s very much against gun control and defending their insane right to bear arms, he’s certainly stored up a fair bit of karma for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Bentley Posted 14 July Share Posted 14 July 2 hours ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: You couldn’t want for a better campaign photo could you - and he’s had a few! Some subliminal references in that propaganda? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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