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Also In The News - part 3

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41 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:


Well done Suella you waste of space. Far right animals doing what they can to destroy the silence

Blokes who claim to show more respect for our war dead than anyone else doing the absolute opposite. Shock.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

Blokes who claim to show more respect for our war dead than anyone else doing the absolute opposite. Shock.

 

 

Primed and enabled by a right wing government that wants to divide and antagonise the public at all points.

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4 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

Primed and enabled by a right wing government that wants to divide and antagonise the public at all points.

Whipping up hysteria and surprise, surprise its the far right march that looks more nasty and snarling. You can see the obvious contrasts between both protests on the news.

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8 hours ago, Lionator said:

I’m not sure that razing everything to the ground is the answer though? If they’re that convinced that Hamas are hiding in hospitals, why don’t they send in the special forces for a fire fight rather than obliterating whole hospitals killing hundreds of innocents each time? A fire fight would still kill innocents but not at the same level. It’s warped. 

Who has ‘obliterated’ a functioning hospital ?

 

6 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

The sheer number of bombs dropped on Gaza in 3 weeks, I think anyone who thinks that the entire approach has been a well thought out, strategic military operation is (at best) naive.
 

There is evidently revenge here. The rhetoric of some of the Israeli cabinet suggests so. In any case, Hamas though an organised operation are significantly smaller than the 6000 bombs dropped to eradicate them (yet, blowing up the Al Shifa is now also necessary apparently).
 

It’s Macron today who is telling them to stop the carnage. ****ing Macron. Macron. Couldn’t believe it. 
 

Who ‘blew up’ the Al shifa ? 

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19 minutes ago, Unabomber said:

Why were the right wing psychos marching anyway?

'counter-protest' against marches for Palestine, stoked up by Braverman saying those were 'hate marches'. 


Even though the pro-Palestine marches weren't going anywhere near the Cenotaph for the Remembrance services and had been organised with Police aware. 

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1 minute ago, StanSP said:

'counter-protest' against marches for Palestine, stoked up by Braverman saying those were 'hate marches'. 


Even though the pro-Palestine marches weren't going anywhere near the Cenotaph for the Remembrance services and had been organised with Police aware. 

It’s insane. They are so thick, 

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Just now, StanSP said:

'counter-protest' against marches for Palestine, stoked up by Braverman saying those were 'hate marches'. 


Even though the pro-Palestine marches weren't going anywhere near the Cenotaph for the Remembrance services and had been organised with Police aware. 

Wasn’t so much about the march being a hate march imo - she (and others) implied that the march might be used by some as cover to cause issues around the cenotaph. Which was very unlikely to happen.   Tommy Robinson and his mates have no time for Israel and Jews - an actual full on ‘hate march’ against these two entities is more likely to be joined by them! 

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1 hour ago, StanSP said:

Has Cruella condemned any of the hate marches by the far right?

How can she, when she is exactly this.

 

IMO she has virtually given the green light to Robinson and his EDL mobsters by saying what she said.

 

Almost inciting the far right wing to prove her to be correct, in that protesters from that persuasion get treated more robustly by the police than left wing protesters do.

 

Awful, nasty, vindictive example of a human being, never mind a politician.

 

Possibly worse than Maggie.

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20 minutes ago, Parafox said:

How can she, when she is exactly this.

 

IMO she has virtually given the green light to Robinson and his EDL mobsters by saying what she said.

 

Almost inciting the far right wing to prove her to be correct, in that protesters from that persuasion get treated more robustly by the police than left wing protesters do.

 

Awful, nasty, vindictive example of a human being, never mind a politician.

 

Possibly worse than Maggie.

I know. My question was rhetorical :D 

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3 hours ago, st albans fox said:

Who has ‘obliterated’ a functioning hospital ?

 

Who ‘blew up’ the Al shifa ? 

Fair point - I can accept that. Will correct myself. Don’t want you having a wobble and accusing others of ridiculous things again. It hasn’t been blown up, correct but certainly at risk of mass death due to it being a major Hamas control point. Strategic targeting should’ve made that hospital number 1 target. Hit the control centre, go in and completely deplete the organisation. Allow other facilities in the strip to operate but still deplete Hamas by hitting its apparent control centre. Instead, every hospital in the strip is now overloaded and lacking basic necessities. People, including children will now dies as a result. There is strategic military planning and collective punishment - it’s very hard not to see the impact of the latter which has happened - the extent of which is very hard to determine and will continue to be for a few years yet. 
 

 

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1 minute ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Fair point - I can accept that. Will correct myself. Don’t want you having a wobble and accusing others of ridiculous things again. It hasn’t been blown up, correct but certainly at risk of mass death due to it being a major Hamas control point. Strategic targeting should’ve made that hospital number 1 target. Hit the control centre, go in and completely deplete the organisation. Allow other facilities in the strip to operate but still deplete Hamas by hitting its apparent control centre. Instead, every hospital in the strip is now overloaded and lacking basic necessities. People, including children will now dies as a result. There is strategic military planning and collective punishment - it’s very hard not to see the impact of the latter which has happened - the extent of which is very hard to determine and will continue to be for a few years yet. 
 

Careful - you’ll get a job at the bbc ! 

 

the Israeli military want the hospital empty of the civilians sheltering there and only with injured and staff so they can try and deal with Hamas either in the surrounding buildings or below ground there,

 

they may decide that they can enter with crack squads and try to find the access to tunnels that they think exist if the civilians are evacuated and the injured moved to upper floors 

 

 I read that Israel will facilitate the movement of babies from the paediatric dept at Al shifa to other safer hospitals tomorrow (not sure how that will work unless there is a safe route to the east of the hospital without Hamas snipers able to target them ). 

 

Sadly this is not going to end soon. 

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