Muzzy_no7 Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 8 hours ago, Parafox said: Erm... because there's a significant number of far right fascist groups that continue to exist outside of the EDL? And the media know most of the angry locals are part of these, do they? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 29 minutes ago, Babylon said: Let's look at yesterday. I would absolutely guarantee that most of those turning up singing anti-Muslim songs have been stocked up by the total fabrication of the person's name, being a small boat migrant in the last year, and being on a watchlist. All that came from a right wing US made up news source in channel 3 news. It then spread like wildfire, being repeated by all your usual right-wing grifters online. The people who started that rumour have got EXACTLY what they wanted. Social media is a massive issue with all this. Someone posts a clip or a picture, nothing true behind it, and it spreads. People believe what they see, which has always been the case with newspapers but now it's on everyone's phone at the click of a button. Although I had to laugh at the Daily Mail calling last night's rioters as "thugs", which is true, but papers like Daily Mail have been adding to the hatred year after year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July (edited) 7 minutes ago, Footballwipe said: The whole scenario is a powder keg. Right wing nutters who lack education and comprehension. Easily susceptible to lies, rumours and their pin-up idols encouraging them whilst those idols take their money and direct it all from another country or a nice big comfy house. It's a shame that they couldn't even wait until the vigil had been done before they caused the carnage they so craved. I dare say many of those people there yesterday, and some on here based on the attitudes we've been exposed to, are more gleeful than angry about the events on Monday. Gives them the chance to spout their nonsense, go out and riot, snort the white stuff, be racist and have a scrap all whilst having a "reason". Are you for real ? name them if you believe that Edited 31 July by st albans fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_no7 Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 2 hours ago, Voll Blau said: Is there any part of you in the slightest that might consider stopping sharing just any random shit you find online? Having just looked into it, the "source" of this info looks dodgy to say the least. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1930075/southport-stabbing-vigil-man-arrested-knife/amp https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-balaclava-clad-man-knife-33361943.amp https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/man-arrested-flick-knife-seized-29646136.amp https://www.merseyside.police.uk/news/merseyside/news/2024/july/man-arrested-after-incident-in-southport/ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/southport-attack-riot-police-b2588512.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 14 minutes ago, Kilworthfox said: ...currently it feels that there is a disinformation war ongoing and the results are played out on ... the streets. Like Street Countdown but with Jon Snow hosting and asking true or false questions on topical news issues. It's news - on. the. street! For special editions, like Christmas or whatever, they could do it from famous streets like Coronation St., or Downing St., or i don't know, I can't think of another street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hankey Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 11 hours ago, HighPeakFox said: and YOUR point is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 12 minutes ago, Babylon said: People were arriving on busses with crates of cider, drapped in English flags. There was a large number of people there with the sole aim of causing trouble. It was meant to be a vigil not a lads day out. ****ing West Country troublemakers at it again! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 3 minutes ago, Daggers said: Like Street Countdown but with Jon Snow hosting and asking true or false questions on topical news issues. It's news - on. the. street! For special editions, like Christmas or whatever, they could do it from famous streets like Coronation St., or Downing St., or i don't know, I can't think of another street. Oxford Street or Regents Street for Christmas obvs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy G Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 22 minutes ago, Md9 said: So many people happily walking around with knifes and machetes it’s crazy. 10 years in prison if you get caught or caught on camera happily strolling around with a knife and they won’t be so smug then Prisons are too crowded so no chance of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 9 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: ****ing West Country troublemakers at it again! Dark Fruits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July (edited) 1 hour ago, Babylon said: Let's look at yesterday. I would absolutely guarantee that most of those turning up singing anti-Muslim songs have been stocked up by the total fabrication of the person's name, being a small boat migrant in the last year, and being on a watchlist. All that came from a right wing US made up news source in channel 3 news. It then spread like wildfire, being repeated by all your usual right-wing grifters online. The people who started that rumour have got EXACTLY what they wanted. It was reported that the attacker was a muslim asylum seeker from Syria by the Russian state media. So I guess you are correct. Edited 31 July by kenny Stupid ommission! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July CALM DOWN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthyfox Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July Curiously not in the news.... Russell Brand has never been arrested or charged. Career ruined by "he said, she said" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 7 minutes ago, kenny said: It was reported that the attacker was a muslim asylum seeker from Syria. So I guess you are correct. Reported by whom ? MSM and Merseyside police reported very early that the individual was born in Cardiff (or originally came from Cardiff). There was a selection of usual suspects on Twitter who went off with a rumour from a site known to make things up. The funniest bit I’ve seen is one these accounts that is followed released the name as “Ali Al Shakab” or something, said he was Jordanian Palestinian, switched to Syrian and finished off as Rwandan. However, name didn’t change. Anyone who believes that has got a to be a different level of stupid to just go with it. Like I said, those out in the streets yesterday offer nothing to this country. Not a thing. As are any rioters our country unfortunately seems to be seeing more of. People are angry ? Do me a favour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthyfox Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 2 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: Reported by whom ? MSM and Merseyside police reported very early that the individual was born in Cardiff (or originally came from Cardiff). There was a selection of usual suspects on Twitter who went off with a rumour from a site known to make things up. The funniest bit I’ve seen is one these accounts that is followed released the name as “Ali Al Shakab” or something, said he was Jordanian Palestinian, switched to Syrian and finished off as Rwandan. However, name didn’t change. Anyone who believes that has got a to be a different level of stupid to just go with it. Like I said, those out in the streets yesterday offer nothing to this country. Not a thing. As are any rioters our country unfortunately seems to be seeing more of. People are angry ? Do me a favour. It's OK. I still hate everyone with an Irish accent after Brendan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 16 minutes ago, kenny said: It was reported that the attacker was a muslim asylum seeker from Syria. So I guess you are correct. What? Do you believe this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 1 minute ago, filthyfox said: It's OK. I still hate everyone with an Irish accent after Brendan. I just hate Brendan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 38 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Social media is a massive issue with all this. Someone posts a clip or a picture, nothing true behind it, and it spreads. People believe what they see, which has always been the case with newspapers but now it's on everyone's phone at the click of a button. Lack of trust in the police is also a contributing factor and probably worth focussing on as much as social media, which is more convenient to blame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 10 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: Reported by whom ? MSM and Merseyside police reported very early that the individual was born in Cardiff (or originally came from Cardiff). There was a selection of usual suspects on Twitter who went off with a rumour from a site known to make things up. The funniest bit I’ve seen is one these accounts that is followed released the name as “Ali Al Shakab” or something, said he was Jordanian Palestinian, switched to Syrian and finished off as Rwandan. However, name didn’t change. Anyone who believes that has got a to be a different level of stupid to just go with it. Like I said, those out in the streets yesterday offer nothing to this country. Not a thing. As are any rioters our country unfortunately seems to be seeing more of. People are angry ? Do me a favour. Sh*t post, missing the word 'Russian'. Quite an important word on reflection, i'll go back and edit the post.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 8 minutes ago, StanSP said: What? Do you believe this? Original post was rubbish, have now edited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_no7 Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 15 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: I don’t think this is true. We’ve had centre right tories like Cleverly and Hunt come out asking the party to move more to the centre. We’ve had people like Mourdant fighting within. They’ve had people like Jenrick, Gove (albeit debatable) and Braverman in senior cabinet positions. Leadership held by Truss and arguably, Johnson. The Tories have been more right than centre right in the last 14 years which has damaged their standing with those who do usually support them and sit in the centre, edging right. It’s the Tories moving closer to the centre that has caused Reform to get a bigger % than the Liberals 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 8 minutes ago, kenny said: Original post was rubbish, have now edited. No worries, seen the edit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 6 minutes ago, StanSP said: No worries, seen the edit! I was trying to make the point that Russia and China are taking advantage of too many people using tiktok and X for their source of news. It is going to be an ever increasing issue in the future as it's to easy to cause unrest in western democracies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parafox Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July Meanwhile, back in Leicester a less than surprising report: https://www.inyourarea.co.uk/feed/LE101PH/Hinckley,Hollycroft,Wykin,Burbage/live/all/66a8e5abe887fb001937c362?utm_campaign=Daily-3172024&utm_medium=email&utm_source=IYA-DailyDigest&utm_term=news-link&source=email&sourceUserIid=be56c82b-4f14-47c8-a4e4-7472734cfd14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 3 minutes ago, kenny said: I was trying to make the point that Russia and China are taking advantage of too many people using tiktok and X for their source of news. It is going to be an ever increasing issue in the future as it's to easy to cause unrest in western democracies. People in Russia and China like to blame their social problems on outside interference too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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