David Hankey Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 12 hours ago, HighPeakFox said: Does this mean it is met with your seal of approval?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hejammy Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 3 minutes ago, David Hankey said: Does this mean it is met with your seal of approval?!! I think maybe Sealed his own fate..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieTodger Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July Social media is a ****ing bombsite at the moment. This “protest” has completely detracted from the main story now. Throwing bricks at the same people running to the danger. Arseholes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_up_north Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July It's only bloody Wednesday as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July Huw Edwards is in court. Can just see a suspended jail sentence being the punishment really.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benguin Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July Everywhere online is just leftists calling out racism and islamaphobia and right wing folks calling out police and media for false reporting. On the scene is harrowing footage of violent protesting. Seemingly hardly anywhere is compassion, prayer and support for what actually happened. Come quickly Lord and be with these families who are grieving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 1 minute ago, Wymsey said: Huw Edwards is in court. Can just see a suspended jail sentence being the punishment really.. Pled guilty, prisons are full, didn't touch a child, will never work again, won't have a single friend to go to...suspended sentence is probably appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July (edited) 1 hour ago, RonnieTodger said: Social media is a ****ing bombsite at the moment. This “protest” has completely detracted from the main story now. Throwing bricks at the same people running to the danger. Arseholes. The product of a ruined education system. We focussed on making children learn by rote and forgot to teach them to love learning and how to think. By far the biggest problem is that people aren't equipped with the skills to appraise information, we see it here every day. Until we address that gaping hole in the national curriculum nothing will ever change - you can't legislate people cleverer. Edited 31 July by Daggers It was the computer wot dunnit 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SpacedX Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 7 minutes ago, Daggers said: The product of a ruined education system. We focussed on making children learn by wrote and forgot to teach them to love learning and how to think. *Rote 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 3 minutes ago, SpacedX said: *Rote *autocorrect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wymsey Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July (edited) Huw Edwards pleads guilty. https://news.sky.com/story/huw-edwards-set-to-appear-in-court-after-being-charged-with-making-indecent-images-of-children-13187776 I might be wrong here - it says he was guilty of making images, but then scrolling down the story it says he didn't make them?.. Edited 31 July by Wymsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 18 minutes ago, Daggers said: Pled guilty, prisons are full, didn't touch a child, will never work again, won't have a single friend to go to...suspended sentence is probably appropriate. Reportedly told the person sending them - an adult - not to send him any illegal images, which probably also helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicesterpool Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 11 minutes ago, Wymsey said: Huw Edwards pleads guilty. https://news.sky.com/story/huw-edwards-set-to-appear-in-court-after-being-charged-with-making-indecent-images-of-children-13187776 I might be wrong here - it says he was guilty of making images, but then scrolling down the story it says he didn't make them?.. still downloaded them though and continued to chat with this individual for many more months. So looks like a cell at HMP Stafford is awaiting him, once a brief home to Rolf Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 11 minutes ago, Wymsey said: Huw Edwards pleads guilty. https://news.sky.com/story/huw-edwards-set-to-appear-in-court-after-being-charged-with-making-indecent-images-of-children-13187776 I might be wrong here - it says he was guilty of making images, but then scrolling down the story it says he didn't make them?.. As the article says, "making" them can mean someone literally sent you a picture. Eg. If someone sent you a dodgy picture on whatapp, you could then be done for "making indecent images". His lawyers are trying to clarify that he didn't actually make the pictures, as many will obviously presume he was there taking part, in the traditional sense of what making pictures would mean. Bit odd really, there must be a bit more to it. If someone sent me some dodgy stuff and I said don't send me that. I'd be a bit miffed if I then got nicked for it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 2 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said: still downloaded them though and continued to chat with this individual for many more months. So looks like a cell at HMP Stafford is awaiting him, once a brief home to Rolf Harris. Your phone automatically downloads them, otherwise they'd never appear. I suppose the police argument would be, you should have come to us if someone is sending you these things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 19 minutes ago, Wymsey said: Huw Edwards pleads guilty. https://news.sky.com/story/huw-edwards-set-to-appear-in-court-after-being-charged-with-making-indecent-images-of-children-13187776 I might be wrong here - it says he was guilty of making images, but then scrolling down the story it says he didn't make them?.. It's because he received pictures so they were downloaded to his phone. That counts as "making" them. But he didn't actually physically "make them". Interesting to hear that Edwards asked for the guy to not send anything underage or illegal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnfox Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 1 minute ago, Babylon said: Your phone automatically downloads them, otherwise they'd never appear. I suppose the police argument would be, you should have come to us if someone is sending you these things. I would think it's along the lines of if I send you a picture and you open it, then I have a copy and you have a copy, therefore you have made the image (file) i.e., your copy. If you then delete it, you might say that you're not in possession of it (he wasn't charged with possession), but doesn't alter the fact that you created that particular file in the first place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 13 minutes ago, Wymsey said: Huw Edwards pleads guilty. https://news.sky.com/story/huw-edwards-set-to-appear-in-court-after-being-charged-with-making-indecent-images-of-children-13187776 I might be wrong here - it says he was guilty of making images, but then scrolling down the story it says he didn't make them?.. The word 'make' is used very broadly in a legal sense - it can mean just opening an attachment on WhatsApp, which is what Edwards did. It seems that a couple of the images/videos he opened involved younger children, hence they're considered category A. I feel a little bit sorry for him - he didn't attempt to store any indecent images on any personal devices and he didn't forward anything on. He even asked his friend not to send him anything illegal. All he did was open some images sent to him via WhatsApp, and that was enough to convict him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July (edited) 10 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said: still downloaded them though and continued to chat with this individual for many more months. So looks like a cell at HMP Stafford is awaiting him, once a brief home to Rolf Harris. It states that they continued to chat, and share legal pornographic photos, after Edwards asked him not to send anything underage or illegal. I'm not saying he's done nothing wrong but you seem to jump the gun a bit. Edited 31 July by Fox92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicesterpool Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July (edited) 5 minutes ago, Fox92 said: It states that the continued to chat, and share legal pornographic photos, after Edwards asked him not to send anything underage or illegal. I'm not saying he's done nothing wrong but you seem to jump the gun a bit. But to still talk to some whose quite clearly a pedo don't look good. He could have blocked the guy and went to the police and instead of being in the dock, he would be going to court as a witness giving evidence. To be honest we don't know the full details yet, so more things may come out. At the end of the day, he probably would have continued to speak to this individual if he wasn't caught, even though he know full well what he was. Edited 31 July by Leicesterpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnfox Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 2 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: The word 'make' is used very broadly in a legal sense - it can mean just opening an attachment on WhatsApp, which is what Edwards did. It seems that a couple of the images/videos he opened involved younger children, hence they're considered category A. I feel a little bit sorry for him - he didn't attempt to store any indecent images on any personal devices and he didn't forward anything on. He even asked his friend not to send him anything illegal. All he did was open some images sent to him via WhatsApp, and that was enough to convict him. Age doesn't really come into the categorisation, it's to do with what's going on in the image. Cat A are the very worst. And it's worth pointing out that whilst technically images could be of people aged under 18, they would usually have to be obviously under 18. CPS would have to show beyond reasonable doubt that he knew they were underage, they don't want anyone able to say that it's possible the subjects in the images could potentially be over 18. There are multiple images of all categories in the indictment. I don't feel sorry for him at all. Suspended sentence, sex offender register, fine, costs and a reputation in tatters is how it should play out imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 31 July Share Posted 31 July 34 minutes ago, Wymsey said: Huw Edwards pleads guilty. https://news.sky.com/story/huw-edwards-set-to-appear-in-court-after-being-charged-with-making-indecent-images-of-children-13187776 I might be wrong here - it says he was guilty of making images, but then scrolling down the story it says he didn't make them?.. "Making" also incorporates having an image saved to disk - doesn't mean he spent five sweaty hours pouring over Photoshop or Movie Maker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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