Lionator Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 Hypothetically then, if I am earning £35k, my wife, who is a citizen of India has a baby and would like to be a full time mother. Her visa comes up for renewal, she would have to leave the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Lionator said: Hypothetically then, if I am earning £35k, my wife, who is a citizen of India has a baby and would like to be a full time mother. Her visa comes up for renewal, she would have to leave the country? Exactly. Even if you were living in a relatively cheap part of the uk up north or in Scotland/N. Ireland and could afford all your bills on that £35k it doesn’t matter. Edited 6 December 2023 by Sampson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 5 minutes ago, Lionator said: Hypothetically then, if I am earning £35k, my wife, who is a citizen of India has a baby and would like to be a full time mother. Her visa comes up for renewal, she would have to leave the country? Yes. And if she left you with the child you’d probably go on to benefits so you could look after it full-time as you’d not be able to pay for child care and continue to work. Another genius Tory plan that will cost the country far more than the problem it purports to solve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 43 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: When is this 38k thing coming in? I can seriously see it being challenged. My guess is it will have little effect for 2 years. Many come here to study then apply for graduate positions, they get a 2 year student visa which has few restrictions though they can't bring a spouse to the UK. At the end of 2 years our grads then need a work visa and be earning £27k. This jump will start to bite in an couple of years once the current crop of graduates have 18 months experience but won't get paid enough for businesses to want to keep them on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 22 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said: Spoken like a true chav Trav the Chav. thats got a nice ring to it! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 18 minutes ago, Daggers said: Yes. And if she left you with the child you’d probably go on to benefits so you could look after it full-time as you’d not be able to pay for child care and continue to work. Another genius Tory plan that will cost the country far more than the problem it purports to solve. Seems like another sure fire route to a windrush type scandal. And utterly inhumane and evil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy G Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 2 hours ago, Dr The Singh said: I believe him I’m hoping that’s sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 9 minutes ago, Tommy G said: I’m hoping that’s sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, kenny said: My guess is it will have little effect for 2 years. Many come here to study then apply for graduate positions, they get a 2 year student visa which has few restrictions though they can't bring a spouse to the UK. At the end of 2 years our grads then need a work visa and be earning £27k. This jump will start to bite in a couple of years once the current crop of graduates have 18 months experience but won't get paid enough for businesses to want to keep them on. Spousal visas are for permanent British residents, British or Irish citizens or EU citizens with pre/settled status. They have nothing to do with what you’re talking about, you have to have worked in the UK on a work visa for 5 years to get permanent residency for workers, student visa don’t count towards permanent residency. It has nothing to do with people on student visas bringing their partners over, it may affect foreign students who started a relationship with a Brit while studying in the UK staying with their British partner though. What you are describing is for work visas, it has nothing to do with spousal visas. Edited 6 December 2023 by Sampson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 1 minute ago, Sampson said: Spousal visas are for permanent British residents, British or Irish citizens or EU citizens with pre/settled status. They have nothing to do with what you’re talking about, you have to have worked in the UK on a work visa for 5 years to get permanent residency for workers, student visa don’t count towards permanent residency. It has nothing to do with people on student visas bringing their partners over, it may affect foreign students who started a relationship with a Brit while studying in the UK though. What you are describing is for work visas, it has nothing to do with spousal visas. Apologies, I assumed that the government was raising the minimum salary for work visas to £38k from its current level of £27k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 I truly do despair of politicians. All of them. on the right you have immoral feinds who thinking they know how to lead, on the left you have principled individuals who couldn't lead the way down a one way street. Maybe i should put this in the unpopular opinions thread. Give me my private island! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav Le Bleu Posted 6 December 2023 Author Share Posted 6 December 2023 42 minutes ago, MPH said: Trav the Chav. thats got a nice ring to it! I'm soooo far from being a chav. More an inverse snob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav Le Bleu Posted 6 December 2023 Author Share Posted 6 December 2023 27 minutes ago, MPH said: I truly do despair of politicians. All of them. on the right you have immoral feinds who thinking they know how to lead, on the left you have principled individuals who couldn't lead the way down a one way street. Maybe i should put this in the unpopular opinions thread. Give me my private island! Gruinard Island is nice and private. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 14 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: Gruinard Island is nice and private. Spoken like a true Chav! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 30 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: I'm soooo far from being a chav. More an inverse nob. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 Apparently jenrick has resigned because the new Rwanda legislation doesn’t go far enough breaking the ECHR rules apparently isn’t strong wnough ! sunak is in big trouble although cannot see how they could change leader again ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zear0 Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 18 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Apparently jenrick has resigned because the new Rwanda legislation doesn’t go far enough breaking the ECHR rules apparently isn’t strong wnough ! sunak is in big trouble although cannot see how they could change leader again ! Also hilarious that Sunak was quoted as saying they won't leave ECHR in this legislation as the Rwandan's said that's immoral and they'd pull out of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 Do these tories honestly think they’ll win the next election if they can get this bill through when nobody has a pot to p*ss in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 1 hour ago, Lionator said: Do these tories honestly think they’ll win the next election if they can get this bill through when nobody has a pot to p*ss in? The (largely) noisy, offended, outraged right wing press will be pulling hard for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 6 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said: The (largely) noisy, offended, outraged right wing press will be pulling hard for them. Fewer people are reading papers ? Surely that will make a difference ??? social media will soon be more important than newspapers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 1 minute ago, st albans fox said: Fewer people are reading papers ? Surely that will make a difference ??? social media will soon be more important than newspapers! They still reach their target audience, online or in print - after all, the swing required to vastly alter a result under FPTP is not all that great. Even though many don't read the output, it still seems to seep into the general consciousness of the population - which is rather scary, as how many of us are willing to consider the possibility that we're being manipulated and made to accept hyper-normalisation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Tommy G said: Apparently you can lose your entire whatsapp history when whatsapp goes ''down'' according to Bozza. How can he say all this with a stright face and expect people to actually believe him. The problem is nobody ever challenges his obvious and total lies. Why didn't anyone at the enquiry actually ****ing challenge that obvious and clear lie properly. 'No - that's not how it works and you're telling a lie.' That's all you need to say. If he continues to lie get someone from the ****ing company to challenge him on it. It could be a matter of proving criminal negligence. If nobody challenges it then it's a tacit admission of acceptance. Edited 6 December 2023 by foxile5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend_in_blue Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 Jenrick can disappear now. Another clown removed, voluntarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend_in_blue Posted 6 December 2023 Share Posted 6 December 2023 8 hours ago, Tommy G said: Apparently you can lose your entire whatsapp history when whatsapp goes ''down'' according to Bozza. How can he say all this with a stright face and expect people to actually believe him. People believed him when he convinced everyone that "the science" was being followed. I actually feel sorry for the bloke today. A clear liar he is, this has always been the case, and now the level of blame is squarely set at his door. He's the fall guy. Ultimately I don't think he's fully to blame, those pulling the strings in the background offering "science" are equally to blame, if not more so, for the course of action taken he was pushed into making, but they will get off scott free of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav Le Bleu Posted 6 December 2023 Author Share Posted 6 December 2023 6 hours ago, MPH said: Give me my private island! What would your immigration policy be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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