Hamza Choudhury

[CosbehFox]

Just now, MPH said:

 No but it was probably his legal rep who advised him not to  give a sample, I’d imagine! 

I hope not because then he's been advised to break the law 

[MPH]

2 hours ago, Lako42 said:

You are making up other scenarios yourself which is a little bit like defending the person though isn't it. 

 

The facts are he's been charged with drink driving and driving badly at the same time, he's also committed an offense in refusing to provide a sample (not up for debate) 

 

He's thick as shit to get into this situation, he's drinking and driving, he deserves scorn from the community that he endangers, I don't really care how over the limit he would have been tbh, he's a selfish **** with previous 

 

 

 Just considering all possibilities, that’s all.

[MPH]

2 hours ago, jgtuk said:

Have you seen him tackle!!!

 

fair point!

[adejo92]

37 minutes ago, MPH said:

 No but it was probably his legal rep who advised him not to  give a sample, I’d imagine!   He wax probably on the blower to him as soon as he was being pulled over!

I'd be surprised, because failing to provide is an offence in itself.

 

It's the easiest offence for the police to get you because they don't even have to prove you were driving. It could transpire that you were not even in the car, but if you've committed the offence of failing to provide, It's a straight charge with the consequences being more a less the same as if you blew over the limit. I'd suspect that Hamza was being the typical arrogant footballer and more likely has refused to provide until he has been allowed to speak with his legal rep. Unfortunately for him, neither the road side or police station breath test can be delayed for the purpose of legal advice.

 

Either way, it's one of those really isn't it. None of us know much factually, i don't doubt for one minute that a single person on here condones drink driving and Hamza isn't the first sportsman, and certainly won't be the last, to drink drive.

Edited 25 January by adejo92

[MPH]

16 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

I'd be surprised, because failing to provide is an offence in itself.

 

It's the easiest offence for the police to get you because they don't even have to prove you were driving. It could transpire that you were not even in the car, but if you've committed the offence of failing to provide, It's a straight charge with the consequences being more a less the same as if you blew over the limit. I'd suspect that Hamza was being the typical arrogant footballer and more likely has refused to provide until he has been allowed to speak with his legal rep. Unfortunately for him, neither the road side or police station breath test can be delayed for the purpose of legal advice.

 

Either way, it's one of those really isn't it. None of us know much factually, i don't doubt for one minute that a single person on here condones drink driving and Hamza isn't the first sportsman, and certainly won't be the last, to drink drive.

 

admitting to manslaughter is an offense but many would rather do that than admit to murder!

 

 

just considering all scenarios.

 

 

I’m sure  we will get more info soon

[Dames]

3 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

Such as? Surely you're not throwing the Covid party thing in with this?!

Yes because its not the first time this lad has broken the rules from drinking. Not learning any lessons at all. 

[ClaphamFox]

3 minutes ago, Dames said:

Yes because its not the first time this lad has broken the rules from drinking. Not learning any lessons at all. 

The Covid protocols did not forbid people from drinking, they were designed to prevent people from socialising in large groups. So it wasn't a drinking offence at all. Drink driving is clearly a serious issue, but this business of trying to portray Choudhury as a serial offender because he posted some daft tweets as a kid and then attended a party during Covid (which many people did, including the people who ran our country at the time) is just plain daft.

[iancognito]

2 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

Exactly. He was a child. If we're going to add crass tweets made when he was a child to his rap sheet, it's starting to look like a desperate attempt to throw mud at him by implying a pattern of behaviour over many years when in reality nothing of the sort exists. It's just a witch hunt, and when the Muslim stuff is thrown in too, it starts to look like a racist witch hunt. 

Not really.

 

With something like this - tweets aside - you have to look at all aspects of his previous behaviour. Missing training, Covid parties etc where the club has disciplined him are all part of that. It only looks like a witch hunt because he has got form for unprofessional conduct. If he's previously been warned it's a mark against him. If no action was taken at the time and it's just old news THEN it's a witch hunt. "The Muslim stuff" is just people wondering how someone with a religious focal point in their life gets into that situation. There's no racial slur there.

[ARM1968]

5 minutes ago, iancognito said:

Not really.

 

With something like this - tweets aside - you have to look at all aspects of his previous behaviour. Missing training, Covid parties etc where the club has disciplined him are all part of that. It only looks like a witch hunt because he has got form for unprofessional conduct. If he's previously been warned it's a mark against him. If no action was taken at the time and it's just old news THEN it's a witch hunt. "The Muslim stuff" is just people wondering how someone with a religious focal point in their life gets into that situation. There's no racial slur there.

Absolutely this. I know some Muslims who have a drink and I know some more devout Muslims who don’t. It’s one of those things and is irrelevant in the context of this offence. You should never drink and drive no matter who you are. 

[adejo92]

1 hour ago, MPH said:

 

admitting to manslaughter is an offense but many would rather do that than admit to murder!

 

 

just considering all scenarios.

 

 

I’m sure  we will get more info soon

Very true mate.

 

Yeah I'm sure we will. We can all agree that we don't condone it and that's all that matters hey.

[Lionator]

6 hours ago, bmt said:

Because we don't know the circumstances yet. And his 'previous rap sheet' isn't that bad to some of us either. Most people his age broke covid rules and most under 35 people openly back Palestine in the Israel conflict.

 

I know people who have refused to give a sample because they know the one that counts is in the station and know they are close to the limit. Its ignorant but common belief.

Unless you're chanting or acting in an anti-semitic way (not the majority) I don't see why this gives you a bad rep but anyway. 

[ElusiveEd]

Many years back I used to drive a Lexus SUV, I pulled over one night to send my then GF a text as we'd just had a row and I'd stormed out of her house.

 

 Seconds later, as I'm about to text, a police car pulled up at the side of me, I glanced down at the passenger plod in the car who was winding his window down so I did the same.

 

 He enquired if I was OK to which I replied that I was and that I'd just pulled over to send a text etc.

 

 He then asked if I'd been drinking that night which triggered something in my head and I replied, whilst looking confusingly around the interior, "Why, Is there a fat girl in my car?"

 

Almost immediately the drivers side door of the plod car opened and out stepped a rather large police woman who had been obscured from my view due to the differing heights of the vehicles. Oh, FFS I thought, I'm in trouble now.

 

She ventured round the back of their car and asked me to step out of mine etc....

 

Long story short, I blew positive at the roadside (Much to her glee I sensed) but under the limit at the station but during a quiet moment whilst processing me the passenger plod did inform me that he was dying to laugh at my comment but as I could see, his colleague wasn't the smallest of lasses was she?

 

Lesson learnt tho.

 

Edited 25 January by ElusiveEd

[MPH]

 

[iancognito]

2 hours ago, MPH said:

 

Mods

 

Can we get this in the transfer talk where it belongs please 🤣

[Daggers]

I wish some would stop referring to drink driving as a “mistake”, implying it’s like wearing odd socks.

 

”Aw bless ‘im, he’s just a lad, and when I was a lad I made load of mistakes like putting sugar on my chips, punching my wife in the face, and that time I robbed a Post Office with a sawn off shotgun. People should go easy on him because he’ll probably stop drink driving when he grows up. Like, I only hit the wife where people can’t see it these days.”

 

Drink driving is a choice. 
 

A choice made by complete cvnts.

[Ely fox]

19 hours ago, MPH said:

 

admitting to manslaughter is an offense but many would rather do that than admit to murder!

 

 

just considering all scenarios.

 

 

I’m sure  we will get more info soon

I’ve always thought he was a decent enough player for the championship level but don’t get why they have him a four year contract. Seems too long. 

[PaulW]

Foolish young man.....if you're offered the keys to the kingdom, in the form of an above average talent for playing football, and a contract for playing it that pays a wage most people can only dream of, any sensible person would be more than willing to observe the rules.

[Lako42]

49 minutes ago, PaulW said:

Foolish young man.....if you're offered the keys to the kingdom, in the form of an above average talent for playing football, and a contract for playing it that pays a wage most people can only dream of, any sensible person would be more than willing to observe the rules.

You aren't factoring in the fact that he's thick as shit

[dmayne7]

Drink driving is beyond stupid. You kind of think it might happen with the odd 18/19 year old who does it once then hopefully realises what a tool they've been. For a 26 year old millionaire, it's beyond dumb. As others have said, he's got access to any means of getting back home, no excuses.

 

For a guy who wants to carry the baton for Asian footballers, he's just about the worst role model you can have. Always some controversy following him about; it's just as well he's not good enough to get more media attention. Should be dropped (and if it wasn't for that new contract, binned off) regardless of our squad size at the moment.

[Footballwipe]

6 hours ago, Daggers said:

I wish some would stop referring to drink driving as a “mistake”, implying it’s like wearing odd socks.

 

”Aw bless ‘im, he’s just a lad, and when I was a lad I made load of mistakes like putting sugar on my chips, punching my wife in the face, and that time I robbed a Post Office with a sawn off shotgun. People should go easy on him because he’ll probably stop drink driving when he grows up. Like, I only hit the wife where people can’t see it these days.”

 

Drink driving is a choice. 
 

A choice made by complete cvnts.

Amazing isn't it. Stick a football club logo on someone who has committed a criminal offence and fans come flocking to mitigate or defend.

 

Happens all the time with all fanbases. Luckily even the most ardent won't support the worst crimes, but failing to provide a sample and the words "mistake" come popping up.

[Raj]

On the face of it he seems like abit of a thick tw$t who has been fortunate to have league one skills but a bloody good agent to have him at our club on what he's on.

 

[James_lcfc]

1 minute ago, Raj said:

On the face of it he seems like abit of a thick tw$t who has been fortunate to have league one skills but a bloody good agent to have him at our club on what he's on.

 

Pretty much.

 

Phenomenal agent. Won't be many better.

[HarryDee8]

I think in his mind he's had a 'stella' year

[Sol thewall Bamba]

2 hours ago, Footballwipe said:

Amazing isn't it. Stick a football club logo on someone who has committed a criminal offence and fans come flocking to mitigate or defend.

 

Happens all the time with all fanbases. Luckily even the most ardent won't support the worst crimes, but failing to provide a sample and the words "mistake" come popping up.

Yep. Those excusing him ask yourself if you'd do the same if he played for Notts Forest.

[moore_94]