Hamza Choudhury

[Blanchflower78]

Noone cares about him being made captain today if we win.

 

Absolute rubbish if you say you do. I'm not a huge Hamza fan but he was outstanding against Bournemouth and noone would have questioned his inclusion today had we have won.

 

[koop.]

1 minute ago, Blanchflower78 said:

Noone cares about him being made captain today if we win.

 

Absolute rubbish if you say you do. I'm not a huge Hamza fan but he was outstanding against Bournemouth and noone would have questioned his inclusion today had we have won.

 

This 👍 

 

Hamza was solid against Bournemouth. Lose a game like today and everyone will look at everything, standard stuff 

[DylBod9]

Hamza was a beast against Bournemouth and was just flat today , very surprised he was captain.  

[ARM1968]

Unfair for anyone to single out Hamza. Pretty much the whole team was anonymous today. We were atrocious almost to a man. 

[Simonb]

Doesn't offer the same going forward as Ricardo, but that's not stopped us winning games he's covered in earlier in the season.

 

The issue we have is going forward,  not with Hamza. We created absolutely nothing clear cut today.. it was woeful. 

 

Yes, Hamza didn't track back well for the first goal, but yet again the build up came down JJs side. The left side is turgid at the moment going forward and back

 

With regards to his criminal charge.. agree, should've lost the captaincy imo, but it isn't like he smashed a truck drivers head in like their first goal scorer is it. That's a player that shouldn't have been on the pitch

Edited 2 March by Simonb

[eblair]

1 hour ago, funkyrobot said:

Didn’t see an abysmal performance from him today. Yes he might’ve covered the wrong man for their first but Chair would’ve still scored anyway. He was outstanding against Bournemouth and I didn’t think he was the problem today. 

He didn’t cover any man for the first goal, stood in absolute no man’s land

 

Secondly, just ignoring the embarrassment he’s been for us off the pitch fairly consistently 

 

From messaging onlyfans girls, lockdown parties and drink driving. Guys a liability and is disrespectful to the club

[Will1981]

Nowhere near our worst player today but being used as a scapegoat as usual on here.

 

Understandable that his energy levels were a bit lower as he was the only player who started today who player 120 minutes on Tuesday but still put in more effort than KDH or Mavididi for example who had the cup game off.

 

As for Enzo making him captain, he has been captain every game this season when Vardy or Ricardo have not started.  

[Simonb]

8 minutes ago, eblair said:

He didn’t cover any man for the first goal, stood in absolute no man’s land

 

Secondly, just ignoring the embarrassment he’s been for us off the pitch fairly consistently 

 

From messaging onlyfans girls, lockdown parties and drink driving. Guys a liability and is disrespectful to the club

Being honest though, it's only because he's in the limelight it's an issue.. there be loads of well off guys chancing their arm with the only fans girls and half the country flirted with the lockdown rules. I don't however condone drink driving.

 

But people seem to forget Vardy being caught on camera displaying his casual racism towards a casino employee days before a certain title winning season, but that wasn't an issue because of what he did on the pitch.

 

Yes, hamza ballsed up with his poor tracking today  but of late he's warranted his place due to what he's done on the pitch. Just seems like clutching at straws to bring his off field antics in to it when we've lost when noone moaned at Bournemouth about his drink driving. 

 

He wasn't the best today but he was certainly not the worst on the field.. mavididi, Justin, yunus and daka for starters were terrible

Edited 3 March by Simonb

[funkyrobot]

11 hours ago, Pliskin said:

He’s shit. He’s always been shit, he offers **** all apart form the occasional hard tackle.

 

And he shouldn’t be in the team from a moral standpoint, let alone be the captain. 

Strangely enough relegation threatened QPR had no moral issues playing Prison FC bound Ilias Chair against us. I have no problem with Hamza playing, with Ricardo out there’s no option. I wouldn’t’ve made him Captain purely from a vocal perspective, I would’ve gone with Winks who talks and directs more in a game.

[st albans fox]

11 hours ago, Blanchflower78 said:

Noone cares about him being made captain today if we win.

 

Absolute rubbish if you say you do. I'm not a huge Hamza fan but he was outstanding against Bournemouth and noone would have questioned his inclusion today had we have won.

 

I did 

if I’d realised then I’d have said so in the match thread 

I missed the pre game stuff so had no idea 

 

I’m sure there must have been some posters on FT with a moral compass ??

[Nolucklcfc]

He certainly wasn’t the worst yesterday, unfair to scapegoat him. Especially off the back of 120 minutes. 

[st albans fox]

51 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

Strangely enough relegation threatened QPR had no moral issues playing Prison FC bound Ilias Chair against us. I have no problem with Hamza playing, with Ricardo out there’s no option. I wouldn’t’ve made him Captain purely from a vocal perspective, I would’ve gone with Winks who talks and directs more in a game.

No issue with him playing 

it’s the captain part 

being captain isn’t about shouting at people 

 

there’s more to it -  all the stuff around it -  photos pre match etc - it matters. At least it should matter 

obvs it doesn’t to the coach 

 

that’s his call

he’s in charge 

 

[Blanchflower78]

15 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I did 

if I’d realised then I’d have said so in the match thread 

I missed the pre game stuff so had no idea 

 

I’m sure there must have been some posters on FT with a moral compass ??

Wouldn't have batted a eyelid if they'd won. Who does after a victory?

[ithuriel]

Ultimately, the manager gets the plaudits, the manager gets the blame.

The team played too much around the box, possession means nothing if you cant score and we were woeful up front, though to be fair we were woeful in every department against QPR.

[st albans fox]

There are two things being discussed 

a) should hamza have played

b) should hamza have been captain

 

anyone having a problem with ‘a’ is a bit strange given our fitness issues and his previous couple of performances 

 
 

[StanSP]

What is the actual captain hierarchy? 

I know Vardy is captain. Surely the likes of Winks should be vice? 

 

Either way there should be more leaders on the pitch regardless of who even wears the armband. 

[st albans fox]

Just now, StanSP said:

What is the actual captain hierarchy? 

I know Vardy is captain. Surely the likes of Winks should be vice? 

 

Either way there should be more leaders on the pitch regardless of who even wears the armband. 

Vardy, Ricky, albrighton followed by anyone  who is local (apart from kdh it seems which must mean he doesn’t want it )

[SouthStandUpperTier]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Vardy, Ricky, albrighton followed by anyone  who is local (apart from kdh it seems which must mean he doesn’t want it )

[Viva]

1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

Vardy, Ricky, albrighton followed by anyone  who is local (apart from kdh it seems which must mean he doesn’t want it )

Hamza seems to always be the next in line. If he wasn't captain yesterday it would specifically have been due to the drink driving case. Enzo obviously didn't want to strip him of the captaincy because of that and I don't see a major issue. 

He wasn't at his best, like many others in the team, but the loss certainly wasn't down to him. He played a massive part in the last two good performances. 

[st albans fox]

7 minutes ago, Viva said:

Hamza seems to always be the next in line. If he wasn't captain yesterday it would specifically have been due to the drink driving case. Enzo obviously didn't want to strip him of the captaincy because of that and I don't see a major issue. 

He wasn't at his best, like many others in the team, but the loss certainly wasn't down to him. He played a massive part in the last two good performances. 

Point taken but then why shouldn’t people see that there is a cost in breaking the law beyond financial 

 

I’m disgusted - it’s drink driving - it kills people!

[tickler28]

Far to inconsistent even in matches. Can do something great one minute and then have a brain fart the next and cost us a goal...not an inverted full back and certainly not a premier league player

Edited 3 March by tickler28

[Viva]

8 minutes ago, tickler28 said:

Far to inconsistent even in matches. Can do something great one minute and then have a brain fart the next and cost us a goal...not an inverted full back and certainly not a premier league player

His performance as in inverted full back against a Leeds team away that had gone 8 wins on the bounce, would suggest he is more than capable of playing in that role. He is a very useful squad player. 

We are not in the Premier League. 

[weller54]

55 minutes ago, Viva said:

Hamza seems to always be the next in line. If he wasn't captain yesterday it would specifically have been due to the drink driving case. Enzo obviously didn't want to strip him of the captaincy because of that and I don't see a major issue. 

He wasn't at his best, like many others in the team, but the loss certainly wasn't down to him. He played a massive part in the last two good performances. 

Did you see Winks having a right go at him after the 1st goal yesterday!?  Not sure what happened but Winksy wasn't too happy.

[Kierzz]

He needs to link better with winks.

 

Ricardo and winks are great at playing bounce passes off each other to break through the defensive lines. Hamza and Winks never do that so we miss a lot when they are playing together without Ricky 

[funkyrobot]

2 hours ago, st albans fox said:

No issue with him playing 

it’s the captain part 

being captain isn’t about shouting at people 

 

there’s more to it -  all the stuff around it -  photos pre match etc - it matters. At least it should matter 

obvs it doesn’t to the coach 

 

that’s his call

he’s in charge 

 

For me, the most important part of the captain’s role on a Matchday is what he does on the pitch in terms of leading. The pre match stuff has no absolutely no impact or importance for the vast majority of fans. It’s a non issue for me. The issue Enzo needs to focus on is why the wheels have come off and that’s not got anything to do with asking Hamza to be captain after his drink driving conviction last week.