Nolucklcfc Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April Who the **** do they think they are? Cheeky bastards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious Leicester Fan Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April This is ridiculous. Before trying to get a points deduction against Leicester imposed by PL for 22/23 and then applied by EFL in 23/24, I assume the EFL sought legal advice. They must of ignored the legal advice or hired some shit lawyers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jattdogg Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April The amount of money in the game and the epl and efl can't employ a decent law firm to dot the i's and cross some t's. Think outside the box etc. Half of us thick coonts on the forum could white board a proper process that is more sound/coherent then what these lot come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post urban.spaceman Posted 12 April Popular Post Share Posted 12 April 3 minutes ago, Glorious Leicester Fan said: This is ridiculous. Before trying to get a points deduction against Leicester imposed by PL for 22/23 and then applied by EFL in 23/24, I assume the EFL sought legal advice. They must of ignored the legal advice or hired some shit lawyers. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_77 Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April Just now, Glorious Leicester Fan said: This is ridiculous. Before trying to get a points deduction against Leicester imposed by PL for 22/23 and then applied by EFL in 23/24, I assume the EFL sought legal advice. They must of ignored the legal advice or hired some shit lawyers. They are probably under enormous pressure from the other clubs in the EFL. I’d imagine at least one of those clubs is considering legal action against the league and against us. We’ve made a mockery of the EFL’s competition by exceeding the PL’s more lenient PSR and have made absolutely no effort to comply with the EFL’s rules. If I were an owner of another Championship club who has his own house in order, I’d be furious at the EFL for failing to ensure a fair competition, which directly harms my club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jattdogg Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April 3 minutes ago, The_77 said: They are probably under enormous pressure from the other clubs in the EFL. I’d imagine at least one of those clubs is considering legal action against the league and against us. We’ve made a mockery of the EFL’s competition by exceeding the PL’s more lenient PSR and have made absolutely no effort to comply with the EFL’s rules. If I were an owner of another Championship club who has his own house in order, I’d be furious at the EFL for failing to ensure a fair competition, which directly harms my club. Dont disagree per say...but then the likes of man city just sit there with no punishment.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious Leicester Fan Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April 6 minutes ago, The_77 said: They are probably under enormous pressure from the other clubs in the EFL. I’d imagine at least one of those clubs is considering legal action against the league and against us. We’ve made a mockery of the EFL’s competition by exceeding the PL’s more lenient PSR and have made absolutely no effort to comply with the EFL’s rules. If I were an owner of another Championship club who has his own house in order, I’d be furious at the EFL for failing to ensure a fair competition, which directly harms my club. Fair point. But, there is a big difference between what you want to do and what you can actually do (legally speaking). I can’t blame any club and would expect them to question and challenge the legality of the EFL actions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble92 Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April 18 minutes ago, Glorious Leicester Fan said: This is ridiculous. Before trying to get a points deduction against Leicester imposed by PL for 22/23 and then applied by EFL in 23/24, I assume the EFL sought legal advice. They must of ignored the legal advice or hired some shit lawyers. Exactly what I was going to put, what the **** did they think they were doing? Makes me more confident about the club taking on all these clowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudger63 Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April You can tell from the EFL statement that they've got the raging hump with us, moaning that we didn't send them a letter before starting proceedings against them. Their suggestion being, that had we just waited for them to meet and look at their own rules, they would have found that they couldn't do anything this season anyway, and so us starting proceedings against them was unnecessary. Complete bull shite of course, because if we had just let them do what they wanted, without the threat of fighting any action being implemented against us this season, you can bet that they would have conveniently overlooked their own rules, in favour of nailing us this season. I tell you this though, if we don't go up, they are going to come hard for us next season! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxofbarrow Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April 2 minutes ago, Gamble92 said: Exactly what I was going to put, what the **** did they think they were doing? Makes me more confident about the club taking on all these clowns. The exact reason why Man City and their 100+ charges haven’t been resolved. They will wipe the floor with them too, as the rules clearly aren’t water tight in law, not necessarily the lawyers they’re using 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April Presumably this means that if we don’t go up, the EFL still can’t deduct points for the 22/23 PL breach? …and if we do go up, the PL can’t deduct points for a 23/24 EFL breach (if we do breach)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_77 Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April (edited) 18 minutes ago, Glorious Leicester Fan said: Fair point. But, there is a big difference between what you want to do and what you can actually do (legally speaking). I can’t blame any club and would expect them to question and challenge the legality of the EFL actions. Absolutely, it would still be foolish not appeal and challenge something so clear. Edited 12 April by The_77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVFox Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April Once again, the EFL release their statement close to a match. Horrid willy pullers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious Leicester Fan Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April 4 minutes ago, Ricey said: Presumably this means that if we don’t go up, the EFL still can’t deduct points for the 22/23 PL breach? …and if we do go up, the PL can’t deduct points for a 23/24 EFL breach (if we do breach)? I assume so. Also, haven’t they changed the rules for the 25/26 season (only allow to spend 80% of generated income of transfers/wages)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_77 Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April 24 minutes ago, Jattdogg said: Dont disagree per say...but then the likes of man city just sit there with no punishment.. Experts like Stefan Borson have said over and over again that this isn’t the case. There is a trial date set for Man City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April More embarrassing that the EFL have lost a disagreement about their own rules and laws 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April (edited) 6 minutes ago, LVFox said: Once again, the EFL release their statement close to a match. Horrid willy pullers I’ve actually got a big buzz of it. (As sad as that is) I’m fancying a big win (finally) and a big **** you to the EFL. There has been a lot made of “Are these threats a reason why our form has dropped off”. If that is truly the case (which I don’t think it was personally), well there’s your team talk and buzz. Get out there!! Edited 12 April by Matt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April Just now, UniFox21 said: More embarrassing that the EFL have lost a disagreement about their own rules and laws THREE TIMES NOW. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
when_you're_smiling Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April 11 minutes ago, smudger63 said: You can tell from the EFL statement that they've got the raging hump with us, moaning that we didn't send them a letter before starting proceedings against them. Their suggestion being, that had we just waited for them to meet and look at their own rules, they would have found that they couldn't do anything this season anyway, and so us starting proceedings against them was unnecessary. Complete bull shite of course, because if we had just let them do what they wanted, without the threat of fighting any action being implemented against us this season, you can bet that they would have conveniently overlooked their own rules, in favour of nailing us this season. I tell you this though, if we don't go up, they are going to come hard for us next season! And with the timing of releasing the statement too. If we win the league and definitely if we go up through the play offs I hope we just don’t lift the trophy. Sod posing around their branding while they’re trying to harm the club as much as possible. Leave Rick Parry standing there like a lemon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jattdogg Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April 1 minute ago, The_77 said: Experts like Stefan Borson have said over and over again that this isn’t the case. There is a trial date set for Man City. Ya, I have seen that but it just a joke with how long it takes and how their case might have impacted us and so many others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April 3 minutes ago, LVFox said: Once again, the EFL release their statement close to a match. Horrid willy pullers Make no mistake, it's absolutely deliberate. They NEED to keep us in their league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkuseMe Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April 43 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I'm not really sure how you can see it as anything other than corrupt. It's literally breaking their own rules and precedents to try and stop us getting promoted. You could pick any number of reasons they might be doing it, bias towards Leeds, keeping Big Leicester in the Championship for the pull, conspiring with the Premier League and the Big Six to make sure we're truly beaten down for the title win, whatever. You can go as tinfoil hat with it as you want but it's still entirely corrupt. We got away from them in 13/14 didn't we, breaking their spending rules and bulldozing the league in the process. Now 10 years later we're back and history is close to repeating; this is the more obvious narrative for why the EFL have overreached here. They don't want clubs to be successful while overspending, as it lessens the value of the competition. In doing so, however, they've only succeeded in exposing how embarrassingly incompetent they and their rules are. No powers to implement PL sanctions at all by the looks of things, it's not even a case of them just falling guilty of trying to expedite the process. With the PL looking to ditch the current system soon and with the separate nature of PL-EFL rules, I'm even less sure what this all means for next season or the one afterwards. If we're back up as we should be, I wonder if the PL has the power to sanction us for this season, or even for our PSR breach last season, given we suffered the ultimate penalty anyway of relegation. We'll be a newly promoted club, after all, rather than an "existing customer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April I’ll be honest I don’t know what we did wrong in 13/14(?). I vaguely remember something about a fine but I’m not sure what we actually did wrong, think I must have had my head in the sand. BUT, if the EFL had their house in order wouldn’t you think they’d of had a point deduction or punishment of some kind waiting for us on relegation? I fully expect this to be the case of were promoted this season and get relegated again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_favourite Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April Just now, Matt said: I’ll be honest I don’t know what we did wrong in 13/14(?). I vaguely remember something about a fine but I’m not sure what we actually did wrong, think I must have had my head in the sand. BUT, if the EFL had their house in order wouldn’t you think they’d of had a point deduction or punishment of some kind waiting for us on relegation? I fully expect this to be the case of were promoted this season and get relegated again. And I feel the premier league will be all to willing to help with that. We miffed them for years and now we've over reached and they are hitting us with a beaten stick. We didn't want a super league, but in all but name, there is one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April If Enzo has and shred of nous he'll be using this to create a massive siege mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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