KansasFox Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June It’s called profit and sustainability, but the way football has gone with the money available to and pumped in to the top clubs makes the idea of sustainability a joke. It is not sustainable for a club to have to sell at least one top player per year and still fall foul even if their net transfer dealings are a profit. Or, to have to sell their homegrown players in order to meet PSR. Financial Sustainability, maybe, but I doubt it. Football sustainability, not a chance! The whole thing is a mess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wortho Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June Chelsea are allowed to sell to themselves a hotel and parts of their training ground. And this money can be used to meet their FFP/PSR obligations. Doesn’t seem right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxin_Mad Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June The whole thing is a sack of shit, I hope Man City tear it a new one in court. To be honest they are on the side of clubs like us. You can never hope to compete if you don't make a loss a some point. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June 1 hour ago, st albans fox said: That wouldn’t help out psr situation unless they were going to pay a fortune for either player Yeah but they just do something like Fatawu for £60mill with Omari Hutchison coming our way for half that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wortho Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June 19 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said: The whole thing is a sack of shit, I hope Man City tear it a new one in court. To be honest they are on the side of clubs like us. You can never hope to compete if you don't make a loss a some point. I’m of the same opinion. What other industry limits the amount of investment you want to make? During the 70/80’s Liverpool and United had the biggest investors. Whatever system you have some clubs will always have larger incomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyC74 Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June 1 hour ago, st albans fox said: That wouldn’t help out psr situation unless they were going to pay a fortune for either player I wouldn't be surprised is all I am saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June The whole thing is a joke. They are all rubbing each other’s backs. How is this allowed? Problem for us is we start to do this and we lose the 3 youth players we actually might need for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyC74 Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June 1 minute ago, Lambert09 said: The whole thing is a joke. They are all rubbing each other’s backs. How is this allowed? Problem for us is we start to do this and we lose the 3 youth players we actually might need for the season. Poor governance by the Prem pure and simple.......they are afraid of the independent regulator and putting on a show. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June 20 minutes ago, Lambert09 said: The whole thing is a joke. They are all rubbing each other’s backs. How is this allowed? Problem for us is we start to do this and we lose the 3 youth players we actually might need for the season. Well (I do keep banging on about this), we should be selling our academy products that we need the least: Iversen Thomas Nelson Brunt Choudhury McAteer Keep: KDH Alves Braybrooke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 22 June Popular Post Share Posted 22 June 3 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: Well (I do keep banging on about this), we should be selling our academy products that we need the least: Iversen Thomas Nelson Brunt Choudhury McAteer Keep: KDH Alves Braybrooke I'd be livid if we sold Nelson, would need to be £15m + to lose such a player because we can't keep a handle on our fcukin bunce. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June 2 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: Well (I do keep banging on about this), we should be selling our academy products that we need the least: Iversen Thomas Nelson Brunt Choudhury McAteer Keep: KDH Alves Braybrooke It's not the same thing though. They're deliberately inflating the value of players so it doesn't matter who you sell you just need a willing partner to help circumvent the rules. So we could go to Newcastle and sell them Soumare for £40mill and buy Longstaff for £25mill. Massively inflated fees in order to get a big profit in on the books in the immediacy with the inflated purchase you made nicely spread out over a few years. It's just cheating, and there's no need for it to be youth players in order to do it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June 1 minute ago, JimJams said: It's not the same thing though. They're deliberately inflating the value of players so it doesn't matter who you sell you just need a willing partner to help circumvent the rules. So we could go to Newcastle and sell them Soumare for £40mill and buy Longstaff for £25mill. Massively inflated fees in order to get a big profit in on the books in the immediacy with the inflated purchase you made nicely spread out over a few years. It's just cheating, and there's no need for it to be youth players in order to do it. The reasons it's youth players is there's absolutely no book value. But your point still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June 4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: I'd be livid if we sold Nelson, would need to be £15m + to lose such a player because we can't keep a handle on our fcukin bunce. Agree, but that’s where we are. Lose Nelson or KDH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June 3 minutes ago, JimJams said: It's not the same thing though. They're deliberately inflating the value of players so it doesn't matter who you sell you just need a willing partner to help circumvent the rules. So we could go to Newcastle and sell them Soumare for £40mill and buy Longstaff for £25mill. Massively inflated fees in order to get a big profit in on the books in the immediacy with the inflated purchase you made nicely spread out over a few years. It's just cheating, and there's no need for it to be youth players in order to do it. Yeah I get it. The list is the ones I’d like us to play the same game with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June 1 minute ago, FoxinNotts said: Agree, but that’s where we are. Lose Nelson or KDH KDH, because I doubt we would get the kind of fee from Nelson that we would need to not have an issue with PSR so it would be pointless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June Just now, Ric Flair said: The reasons it's youth players is there's absolutely no book value. But your point still stands. I know, I'm just saying that in order to cheat in that manner we don't need to sacrifice the potential of our youth players, we can off load players we don't want. Just now, FoxinNotts said: Yeah I get it. The list is the ones I’d like us to play the same game with You could play the game with players we really don't want though rather than the developing players. Although Nelson aside I don't think I'd be arsed seeing any of your list going tbf. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June Just now, moore_94 said: KDH, because I doubt we would get the kind of fee from Nelson that we would need to not have an issue with PSR so it would be pointless I was hoping to get enough out of my list combined, so that we didn’t need to sell KDH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June Just now, FoxinNotts said: I was hoping to get enough out of my list combined, so that we didn’t need to sell KDH I would be amazed if we even got anywhere near what we could get for KDH for all of those combined unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June Would absolutely love a wild piece of business like Danny Ward for £60m. As in we pay someone to have him and take the points hit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June Just now, moore_94 said: I would be amazed if we even got anywhere near what we could get for KDH for all of those combined unfortunately But maybe those guys and the money from Enzo and staff may be enough 🤷🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June 2 minutes ago, moore_94 said: I would be amazed if we even got anywhere near what we could get for KDH for all of those combined unfortunately If we get a fellow club to fiddle the system you could do it easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June 1 minute ago, JimJams said: If we get a fellow club to fiddle the system you could do it easily. If they are going to then I hope they get a shift on, only got 1 week left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June Just now, moore_94 said: If they are going to then I hope they get a shift on, only got 1 week left! Daka to Bournemouth £50mill! Faivre to Leicester £35mill! Laughing! Shame Bournemouth have no need to do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernpark Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June Don’t care about other clubs. We’re badly run and in the mess we face because of ourselves. The ownership group and directors have to take the blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 22 June Share Posted 22 June Just now, westernpark said: Don’t care about other clubs. You don't have to care about them to care about them circumventing rules that we're potentially being punished for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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