Leicester 'could face points deduction next season'

[Babylon]

So we are now apparently totally two new cost control measures as well as the current rules 

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5546232/2024/06/06/premier-league-cost-control-rule/#

 

[fox_favourite]

Hi,

 

I'm the premier league, and I make up the rules and regulations as I go. I don't like a team, I will punish you. If you have lots of money, or scary, we will lick you poo shoots 

Edited 6 June by fox_favourite

[orangecity23]

It's actually a new kind of Financial Fair play rule. If you have a chairman called Top, then PL says you have to finish bottom.

[whoareyaaa]

5 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

Chelsea  bet Tohely didn't say anything to Enzo

 

Hit them with - 15

[urban.spaceman]

1 hour ago, whoareyaaa said:

Chelsea  bet Tohely didn't say anything to Enzo

 

Hit them with - 15

I will PISS MESELF if they get a worse fine than us.

[urban.spaceman]

6 hours ago, WhoGivesAFuchs said:

I think it’s wise to expect that this may be the last season in the prem for some time, points reductions, limits on spending we will be watched like a hawk. 
 

The inevitable drop to the championship will likely be met with some form of discipline action by the EFL for last season, maybe the transfer embargo comes back into action. 
 

It’s looking like a slippery road from here on in due to an incompetence from the top down. 

Respectfully, I completely reject this.

 

I've said many times on this thread that the ownership and leadership at the club are culpable for a lot of mistakes.

 

But what the club has been through in the last two seasons - inability to spend in 2022, the subsequent drop in performance and our relegation - is as artificial as Manchester City's place as champions.

 

Manchester City and Leicester City aren't where they are because of sporting merit or chance - it's a direct result of the industrial level cheating of Manchester City and the Premier League's reticence to deal with it, alongside their submission to the "big six" clubs. We were denied our fair earnings after winning the league and then were unfairly restricted from spending it. We were unfairly denied two seasons in the Champions League.

 

We're not a poor club. We don't have volatile batshit ownership. We have ambitious ownership who has demonstrated repeated commitment to the club and with a clear record of achieving those ambitions on actual sporting merit.

 

This line in our club statement back in March thrilled me almost as much promotion:

 

"We reaffirm the Club’s position that we will continue to fight for the right of Leicester City and all clubs to pursue their ambitions, particularly where these have been reasonably and fairly established through sustained sporting achievement."

 

That signals to me that the club are going to fight their corner. And we absolutely should - the sport is in a disgraceful state and needs serious reform. As I said in my post at the top of page 168, change is coming anyway and we need to make sure we not only get back what we lost but make sure the "big six" clubs (or rather, "big five plus Tottenham") have their disproportionate money and power removed from them.

[FrankieADZ]

nah nah piss off, lets use the sodding loophole then

[Gamble92]

8 hours ago, FrankieADZ said:

nah nah piss off, lets use the sodding loophole then

King Power were ironically paying a lot less than the going rate for sponsoring the stadium for years. Not sure what they pay now. 

[Raj]

When are we  expecting to find out for SURE how many points we are getting deducted?

 

[les-tah]

9 hours ago, FrankieADZ said:

nah nah piss off, lets use the sodding loophole then

Does this even work because chelsea did something similar and are still on that least of teams that need to sell before the end of june?!

[whoareyaaa]

10 hours ago, FrankieADZ said:

nah nah piss off, lets use the sodding loophole then

sell the training ground to KP and we are sorted.

[Motty]

19 minutes ago, les-tah said:

Does this even work because chelsea did something similar and are still on that least of teams that need to sell before the end of june?!

They have spent massive amounts of money sacked 3 managers paid compensation for 2 of them. They had a transfer ban that I think would be in their year 3 accounts last time out

 

[Royston.]

When exactly are we getting the points deduction?

 

I would expect us to appeal if its more than 6 points so how long could this drag on for?

[foxes_rule1978]

1 hour ago, Royston. said:

When exactly are we getting the points deduction?

 

I would expect us to appeal if its more than 6 points so how long could this drag on for?

I suppose once we are officially moved in to the PL 

[hackneyfox]

On 06/06/2024 at 14:44, WhoGivesAFuchs said:

I think it’s wise to expect that this may be the last season in the prem for some time, points reductions, limits on spending we will be watched like a hawk. 
 

The inevitable drop to the championship will likely be met with some form of discipline action by the EFL for last season, maybe the transfer embargo comes back into action. 
 

It’s looking like a slippery road from here on in due to an incompetence from the top down. 

Agreed, I’m expecting two penalties of -15 points this season, a transfer embargo next season, the forced sale of all our goalkeepers and the manager to have to spend the season with a bucket on his head. That’ll teach us.

[SouthStandUpperTier]

Yer, good luck with that mate.

 

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/40325886/aston-villa-owner-sue-premier-league-spending-rules

 

Aston Villa owner Nassef Sawiris has said he is considering taking legal action against the Premier League over its Profit and Sustainability rules (PSR), claiming the financial restrictions "do not make sense."

 

The regulations stipulate that a club can lose no more than £105 million ($132.54m) over a three-year period.

 

In an interview with the Financial Times, Sawiris said: "Some of the rules have actually resulted in cementing the status quo more than creating upward mobility and fluidity in the sport.

 

"The rules do not make sense and are not good for football."

 

British media reports said Aston Villa had a request to increase the threshold for allowed losses to £135m rejected at the Premier League's AGM last week, with just one other team voting for the motion.

 

ESPN have reached out to Villa for comment.

 

"Managing a sports team has become more like being a treasurer or a bean counter rather than looking at what your team needs," Sawiris added.

 

"It's more about creating paper profits, not real profits. It becomes a financial game, not a sporting game."

[urban.spaceman]

17 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Yer, good luck with that mate.

 

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/40325886/aston-villa-owner-sue-premier-league-spending-rules

 

Aston Villa owner Nassef Sawiris has said he is considering taking legal action against the Premier League over its Profit and Sustainability rules (PSR), claiming the financial restrictions "do not make sense."

 

The regulations stipulate that a club can lose no more than £105 million ($132.54m) over a three-year period.

 

In an interview with the Financial Times, Sawiris said: "Some of the rules have actually resulted in cementing the status quo more than creating upward mobility and fluidity in the sport.

 

"The rules do not make sense and are not good for football."

 

British media reports said Aston Villa had a request to increase the threshold for allowed losses to £135m rejected at the Premier League's AGM last week, with just one other team voting for the motion.

 

ESPN have reached out to Villa for comment.

 

"Managing a sports team has become more like being a treasurer or a bean counter rather than looking at what your team needs," Sawiris added.

 

"It's more about creating paper profits, not real profits. It becomes a financial game, not a sporting game."

APES TOGETHER STRONG. 

[ts_1010]

On 07/06/2024 at 09:21, whoareyaaa said:

sell the training ground to KP and we are sorted.

We won't do that this year.

 

Remember we are a "Championship" club for the purposes of this financial year. So this ruling doesn't affect what we can or can't do with this current budget.

 

Our whole plan regarding this year's budget seems to be to get promoted and never come back. The current rules mean that prem teams can only be punished by the prem if they are IN the prem and same goes for the championship. 

 

Our pending points deduction judgement is based on our time in the prem. We have already handed over the accounts for this so selling things won't help those numbers.

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, ts_1010 said:

We won't do that this year.

 

Remember we are a "Championship" club for the purposes of this financial year. So this ruling doesn't affect what we can or can't do with this current budget.

 

Our whole plan regarding this year's budget seems to be to get promoted and never come back. The current rules mean that prem teams can only be punished by the prem if they are IN the prem and same goes for the championship. 

 

Our pending points deduction judgement is based on our time in the prem. We have already handed over the accounts for this so selling things won't help those numbers.

That was assumed to be the case but apparently there's scope for any breach to be passed between the two, it's just up until now it's not happened / actioned.

[coolhandfox]

5 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

That was assumed to be the case but apparently there's scope for any breach to be passed between the two, it's just up until now it's not happened / actioned.

Will not happen.

 

PL will not be interested on acting on the EFL's behalf, what's in it for them other then extra hassle.

[Ric Flair]

1 minute ago, coolhandfox said:

Will not happen.

 

PL will not be interested on acting on the EFL's behalf, what's in it for them other then extra hassle.

I'd always assumed that too but it's not guaranteed and especially is we've pissed them both off.

[coolhandfox]

1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

I'd always assumed that too but it's not guaranteed and especially is we've pissed them both off.

I think they have more then enough on with Man City and all the PSR PL issues without adding more to it.

[Jattdogg]

3 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

I think they have more then enough on with Man City and all the PSR PL issues without adding more to it.

I doubt that. Man city will be figured out in 2135 at this rate

[ts_1010]

9 minutes ago, Jattdogg said:

I doubt that. Man city will be figured out in 2135 at this rate

This actually helps our case for the time being.

 

If the PL can manage to punish teams for breaches that happened in the championship, but not punish 115 charges from their own league then they will look (even more) foolish.

 

I also don't think they will give us the championship punishment at the same time as the prem one. It will open us up to arguing the number down like Everton did, as the total would likely be over 9.

[Jattdogg]

23 minutes ago, ts_1010 said:

This actually helps our case for the time being.

 

If the PL can manage to punish teams for breaches that happened in the championship, but not punish 115 charges from their own league then they will look (even more) foolish.

 

I also don't think they will give us the championship punishment at the same time as the prem one. It will open us up to arguing the number down like Everton did, as the total would likely be over 9.

....Maybe but in 2135 when they give us our points back.....