TeamRocket Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July Just sell ever player we have apart from Vardy and any home grown player and sell rest to King power other team and then we loan every player we wanna keep that way we can't break any rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveherbe Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July 1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Do we think we'll get another statement on this or just try and sweep it under the carpet? "Under the carpet" is full mate, need a new carpet! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July 18 minutes ago, TeamRocket said: Just sell ever player we have apart from Vardy and any home grown player and sell rest to King power other team and then we loan every player we wanna keep that way we can't break any rules Wishful thinking but you couldn't do that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molson Canadian Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July 25 minutes ago, richardsfoxes said: Hopefully its only like 4 points or something. i really hope it doesn't go into double digits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July 19 minutes ago, Molson Canadian said: i really hope it doesn't go into double digits Agree. 9 or below would seem like win at this stage, tbh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molson Canadian Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July 6 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: Agree. 9 or below would seem like win at this stage, tbh still a sad thing to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July Just now, Molson Canadian said: still a sad thing to think about. 3 precious wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wortho Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July Surely they can reduce this to 4 points? You only get 12 points for going into liquidation. Ridiculous situation regards the PL. They aren’t fit for purpose!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfcdave15 Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July I've not been following this closely, does the latest statement from the club mean selling KDH hasn't helped the situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriderHiryu Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July 2 minutes ago, lcfcdave15 said: I've not been following this closely, does the latest statement from the club mean selling KDH hasn't helped the situation? That sale was made to avoid a FURTHER penalty based on a seperate accounting period. I'm not sure when the penalty for the current period would have been applied this season or next though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July 4 minutes ago, lcfcdave15 said: I've not been following this closely, does the latest statement from the club mean selling KDH hasn't helped the situation? No this is about last year to 30 June 2023 - season we were relegated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July 3 hours ago, kenny said: We stopped being a PL club a month before the end of the accounting period so they are charging an EFL club with the breach. Yet all our revenue streams, and turnover on which we are being audited for that season are in relation to being a top flight club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkuseMe Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July 1 hour ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: 2 confirmed breaches, 1 further pending and a host of clubs using ‘workarounds’ show how difficult these rules are to account for. Clubs have breached because they've "bet the house" on finishing a certain place in the league, be it for European prize money or for a particular PL 'merit payment', or because they thought the PL wouldn't take its rules seriously, or because they felt they were smarter than the rules, or because they calculated that a points deduction was a cost worth taking. They're easy to account for if you accept spending £minimum PL broadcast revenue + £other income + £35M, but some choose to spend more than this and then must hope for the best, be it performances on the pitch or legal loopholes. We were obviously one of these and did disastrously on the pitch. PSR does nothing for levelling competition between those have modest commercial income / gate receipts and the whales of the league, but then it was never designed to do that. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volpeazzurro Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July 2 hours ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: 2 confirmed breaches, 1 further pending and a host of clubs using ‘workarounds’ show how difficult these rules are to account for. Shouldn't be though should it? They know what the rules are before spending (not that I for one minute agree with them) but they try and push them to the limit to gain an advantage. Some just aren't good enough at administering it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July it’s mad that we could have been docked 10 points and still won the league in 2016. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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st albans fox Posted 4 July Share Posted 4 July 1 hour ago, Lambert09 said: it’s mad that we could have been docked 10 points and still won the league in 2016. would have been hilarious to see spurs fans faces if that had happened ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRocket Posted 5 July Share Posted 5 July 5 hours ago, Ashley said: Wishful thinking but you couldn't do that. Yeah I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_no7 Posted 5 July Share Posted 5 July Find it so baffling that there isn’t more publicity and discussion on podcasts and Sky Sports News etc with regards to the blatant player laundering and cheating PSR by Forest, Newcastle, Everton, Villa and Chelsea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFS Posted 5 July Share Posted 5 July 10 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Find it so baffling that there isn’t more publicity and discussion on podcasts and Sky Sports News etc with regards to the blatant player laundering and cheating PSR by Forest, Newcastle, Everton, Villa and Chelsea. Because this nonsense feeds their business model. Was listening to talksport earlier and the vindictive way that Goldstein read out the Leicester news… don’t expect anyone to side with us over this stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Fannieri Posted 5 July Share Posted 5 July I wonder if the club have done thiis with a view to trying to maintain a positive environment for the players and staff at the start of the season, hear me out on this one. ………… A significant points deduction before a ball is kicked and being marooned at the bottom could have a really negative impact to players, management and supporters, effectively kill the season before it starts, if this can be delayed, it offers a far better chance of us getting off on a positive footing, get some early results, points on the board etc, similar to Everton last saason. momentum, positive and negative can take hold of a club pretty easily, so maybe the club feel that if we start on a level playing. field and then get our deduction later in the season, we have more chance of staying up than starting the season with a big disadvantage that sets a tone from the off that we are doomed. To some degree it does make a bit of sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanf0x Posted 5 July Share Posted 5 July If we start on 0 points or -8, the message is the same…RUDKIN OUT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 5 July Share Posted 5 July 4 hours ago, KFS said: Because this nonsense feeds their business model. Was listening to talksport earlier and the vindictive way that Goldstein read out the Leicester news… don’t expect anyone to side with us over this stuff. The only noise is 'how can Newcastle be so rich but not spend their money' which ignores the fact that every pl club is owned by a billionaire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Quick Brown Fox Posted 5 July Share Posted 5 July If we keep appealing and appealing coins we end up a bit like Man city where it just keeps going on and on and nothing comes of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 5 July Share Posted 5 July Seems like they've only read the headlines. The Arsenal View - https://untold-arsenal.com/archives/107782 But now moving on… we have the case of Leicester City. They have been fighting the League in terms of their breaches of Profitability and Sustainability Rules, Because they have appealed we don’t know how many points they are having deducted, but that deduction will apply this coming season. The appeal of Leicester has always (to me if no one else) looked rather weird since the essence of it seemed to be (and here I quote the Telegraph) “the Premier League had no jurisdiction to punish the club as the alleged breach occurred in the 2022/23 season, when they were last competing in the top division.” In reply the Premier League said: “An independent Commission has dismissed a challenge by Leicester City FC that it has no jurisdiction to consider an alleged breach of Profitability and Sustainability Rules. “In March, the Premier League referred the club to the Independent Commission for the alleged breach. Leicester City subsequently challenged the Commission’s authority to hear the case. The alleged breach relates to the PSRs for Season 2022/23, when the club was a member of the Premier League.” Of course, if Leicester won their case and had their points deducted last time they were a Premier League club it would make no odds except the record would show them coming bottom rather than 18th. Here’s the table as it was recorded at the time… Team P W D L F A GD Pts 17 Everton 38 8 12 18 34 57 -23 36 18 Leicester City 38 9 7 22 51 68 -17 34 19 Leeds United 38 7 10 21 48 78 -30 31 20 Southampton 38 6 7 25 36 73 -37 25 As ever in nonsense appeals like this, there is an independent commission to have a look, and they of course said this was all a load of turnips, and so Leicester appealed against the findings of the appeal. Their actions form a notable contrast with those of Everton and Nottingham Forest who have appealed according to the rule book and then accepted the ruling and simply got on with matters. Because we don’t know how many points Leicester will be deducted I guess the league tables will leave them with all their points in the new season, until the matter is decided. Possibly in 2025. The rules clearly state that clubs cannot exceed losses of £105 million over a three-year reporting period. Leicester didn’t just exceed that figure they drove a coach, several horses and quite possibly a couple of tanks through it knocking up losses of £182.20m in just two seasons. That is to say they were 73% over the limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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