Popular Post ClaphamFox Posted 11 March Author Popular Post Share Posted 11 March (edited) 35 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Stefan Borson is an absorbing listen but nothing new. If anyone is interested, below is how the FPP limit changes concerning how many seasons we have spent in each division. Any club outside of the top six is one bad managerial appointment or injury crisis away from a bad season resulting in relegation. If you've been building a squad to compete in Europe then suddenly find yourself in the Championship, it's going to be incredibly difficult to sell enough players at the right kind of prices to stay within the rules. The alternative is to always remain ultra-cautious while in the PL and accept an upper ceiling on what you can realistically achieve, which may suit the big six clubs but won't be very exciting for the rest of us. We just need to get promoted and hope that the punishment doesn't make survival next season impossible. Anything above an eight-point deduction would effectively be a relegation sentence. It'll be a long season if that happens.... Edited 11 March by ClaphamFox 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FOXSE Posted 11 March Popular Post Share Posted 11 March 5 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Any club outside of the top six is one bad managerial appointment or injury crisis away from a bad season resulting in relegation. If you've been building a squad to compete in Europe then suddenly find yourself in the Championship, it's going to be incredibly difficult to sell enough players at the right kind of prices to stay within the rules. The alternative is to always remain ultra-cautious while in the PL and accept an upper ceiling on what you can realistically achieve, which may suit the big six clubs but won't be very exciting for the rest of us. We just need to get promoted and hope that the punishment doesn't make survival next season impossible. Anything above an eight-point deduction would effectively a relegation sentence. It'll be a long season if that happens.... *Any club outside of the top six is one bad managerial appointment or injury crisis away from a bad season resulting in relegation (apart from Everton!) 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March 1 hour ago, CosbehFox said: He’d be at City within two years. Right up our street after his failed attempt at Man U under Sir Brexit Jim I'm not a flippant season ticket chucker like some but I'd find it hard to support a team managed by him. I think it's the idea that the club could possibly think it was a good idea would put me off the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinterdream Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March On 10/03/2024 at 10:59, StanSP said: Apparently Forest only going to get a 2-point deduction because 2 of the seasons were outside of the PL... I can believe they didnt massively over breach giving the amount of players they signed. The we must have been paying our players double what everyone else was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March 2 minutes ago, splinterdream said: I can believe they didnt massively over breach giving the amount of players they signed. The we must have been paying our players double what everyone else was. Argument is that Forest only gained a sporting advantage for one season but that could open up the gates for all sorts of claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinterdream Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March 2 minutes ago, CosbehFox said: Argument is that Forest only gained a sporting advantage for one season but that could open up the gates for all sorts of claims. Just like VAR, people looking after a multi billion pound industry just havent thought this through, and if our problems were wages when reaching for europe and the £40m deficit, our mistake may have been NOT putting in clauses to reduce those wages based on league position and qualification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March 6 minutes ago, CosbehFox said: Argument is that Forest only gained a sporting advantage for one season but that could open up the gates for all sorts of claims. Yeah, that very much blurs the lines of the three year rolling period. What happens if they breach again next season? Another 2 points? 4 points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly B Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March Sky Sports news saying FFP rules changing in the summer ?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March 1 minute ago, Holly B said: Sky Sports news saying FFP rules changing in the summer ?!? Wonder if it helps the big six even more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March 1 minute ago, Holly B said: Sky Sports news saying FFP rules changing in the summer ?!? Yeh to make them even tighter and to the benefit of those with the biggest revenue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March Just now, StanSP said: Wonder if it helps the big six even more... it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March 2 minutes ago, Holly B said: Sky Sports news saying FFP rules changing in the summer ?!? I think this was always the case, but any charges will be for the period up until mid summer (im not sure the exact date) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March Could mean it makes it easier to avoid a 23/24 breach, but does mean that we’d be the only team with a points deduction (if we go up). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly B Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March So we could fall foul of the old rules , the EFL rules and the new rules ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trugerkem Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March Just now, Holly B said: So we could fall foul of the old rules , the EFL rules and the new rules ? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March What does this mean for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March They haven't got a clue what they're doing have they. Totally ridiculous and short-sighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March 3 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said: They haven't got a clue what they're doing have they. Totally ridiculous and short-sighted. I fear they know exactly what they are doing. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March 14 minutes ago, Holly B said: So we could fall foul of the old rules , the EFL rules and the new rules ? Other EFL clubs will see it as karma for early 2000s avoiding admin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March 13 minutes ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said: What does this mean for us? Not only are we fvcked, but we're doubly and triply fvcked. In a nutshell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dan LCFC Posted 11 March Popular Post Share Posted 11 March 22 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: I fear they know exactly what they are doing. Wouldn't shock me. Football's on such flimsy foundations. You only have to remember how quickly everybody was happy to forget the super league scandal ever actually took place. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March Prem have also not agreed a deal with the EFL for money to be dispersed across the leagues. That was wanted to be sorted sooner than later by the Gov, so can imagine there'll be another meeting soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March What happens if clubs breach this season (as seems likely)? I assume the new rules start for next year's accounting period so still points deductions are possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 11 March Author Share Posted 11 March 51 minutes ago, Chelmofox said: I think this was always the case, but any charges will be for the period up until mid summer (im not sure the exact date) Sorry - has there been a new development today re: FFP/PSR rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 11 March Share Posted 11 March 4 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Sorry - has there been a new development today re: FFP/PSR rules? No - and im a million miles away from being an expert so should just stop commenting on it. A poster said they just found out the rules were due to change in the summer. I thought this was always the case but for future financial periods. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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