Terraloon Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 10 minutes ago, Qwerty said: Does anyone know if we could actually have points deducted this season, or if that is completely impossible? I’m hearing different things. Some people say we can’t be punished for a PL “crime” while we’re in the championship. But the BBC seems to imply that a points deduction this season is possible. They say it’s unlikely, because we get to appeal etc and that’s unlikely to be done before the season ends - but not impossible. Any points deduction won’t be in this season there is absolutely no way that the process could be completed that quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwerty Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 8 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said: Nah, it’ll be next season. Can you post a link that confirms that? (I have a vey stressed 14 year old!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pliskin Posted 21 March Popular Post Share Posted 21 March (edited) Listening to Kieron Maguire response to this, it sounds very much like the EPL have got a case of the “****ems” and have just done what they want. Because the EFL had their charge revoked, the EPL have gone, “**** it, you can be charged by us then”……. The facts will remain we were neither an EFL club or an EPL club for the entire period these charges cover, so rightly, we’ve said, hang on, you can’t do this, and we will dig our heels in. It’s the premier league essentially doing what they want, which is why I’m fairly confident following legal advice, we will probably end up with their balls in a vice and they won’t be able to do anything with us. Edited 21 March by Pliskin 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terraloon Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 24 minutes ago, lcfcbluearmy said: Except they weren't brought in until September I thought? The 22/23 rules were definitely in place the accelerated process wasnt hence why the PL say the timing is something the IC will take responsibility for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hankey Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March LCFC cannot offer as a defence that they are no longer an EPL team. The alleged offences were committed when they were an EPL team. The simple question is did we break the £105M loss rule or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March Would be a Leicester thing as a fan to get promoted, celebrate only to get a points deduction weeks later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 15 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said: Top out! Got you mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 2 minutes ago, David Hankey said: LCFC cannot offer as a defence that they are no longer an EPL team. The alleged offences were committed when they were an EPL team. The simple question is did we break the £105M loss rule or not? They can offer a defence, the defence won’t necessarily be about when the alleged breaches are, it will likely be abuse of processes by the EPL, listening to Keiron Maguire, it seems the EPL have only decided to make this charge now because the EFL failed with theirs…. So it’s likely that the EPL have illegally tried to obtain information from us, similar to the EFL…. This is where cases will fall down, not the dispute over which league we were in, more the processes used to obtain the details not being the proper process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March I do think start of the season deductions are way better though. Remember the Leeds 15 pointer. Was a siege mentality. Let's get promoted and give these ****ers a real headache. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groby_Blue Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March While not defending the club for the last couple of seasons and ultimately, this flustercuck we now find ourselves in, King Power are a multi billion pound company and you don't scale those heights without an elite legal team drawing up the small print. Top, Rudders and co may not appear to know what they're doing but surely they have a crack legal team behind them advising them. It worked with telling the EFL to go forth not long ago so maybe they're planning on telling the EPL to do one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March I’m intrigued we didn’t provide the PL with our accounts end dec as they expected us to so they didn’t have the evidence they needed to charge us we still haven’t filed out accounts when did we have to give the efl our expected numbers to end June 24 ? I’m thinking about now?? My point is where have the epl got our numbers from in order to charge us ?? If the efl have passed them over to the epl then I suspect that must have been a couple, weeks ago when the news leaked out that we had failed prem psr for last year to end June. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post foxfanazer Posted 21 March Popular Post Share Posted 21 March 1 minute ago, Number 6 said: I do think start of the season deductions are way better though. Remember the Leeds 15 pointer. Was a siege mentality. Let's get promoted and give these ****ers a real headache. Yeah we're well known for our siege mentality 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 55 minutes ago, ramboacdc said: I made this and posted it on here weeks back, shameless from whoever Lloyd is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanlegend Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March Why don’t we just do a Man City and sign a new sponsorship deal with King Power for 1.5billion 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March Having a points deduction in the Prem next season probably wouldn’t even be that much of a problem when seemingly over half the league are very much at risk of it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
when_you're_smiling Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March (edited) 7 minutes ago, st albans fox said: I’m intrigued we didn’t provide the PL with our accounts end dec as they expected us to so they didn’t have the evidence they needed to charge us we still haven’t filed out accounts when did we have to give the efl our expected numbers to end June 24 ? I’m thinking about now?? My point is where have the epl got our numbers from in order to charge us ?? If the efl have passed them over to the epl then I suspect that must have been a couple, weeks ago when the news leaked out that we had failed prem psr for last year to end June. March 1 apparently. According to Kieran Maguire on the When You’re Smiling podcast, basically because we told the EFL they couldn’t have our accounts because we were a Prem club, the Prem then said ‘well that must mean you were a Prem club then and should have put you accounts in for our December deadline’. it’s worth a listen. Maguire on for first 10ish minutes. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0hl4zg5 Edit - also, if that is the case, when and with who did Leeds and Southampton file their accounts? Edited 21 March by when_you're_smiling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 16 minutes ago, Qwerty said: Can you post a link that confirms that? (I have a vey stressed 14 year old!!) There's not enough time: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 4 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: Yeah we're well known for our siege mentality Last 9 games of 14/15? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terraloon Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 8 minutes ago, Pliskin said: They can offer a defence, the defence won’t necessarily be about when the alleged breaches are, it will likely be abuse of processes by the EPL, listening to Keiron Maguire, it seems the EPL have only decided to make this charge now because the EFL failed with theirs…. So it’s likely that the EPL have illegally tried to obtain information from us, similar to the EFL…. This is where cases will fall down, not the dispute over which league we were in, more the processes used to obtain the details not being the proper process. How can it be abuse of process if it complies with the PL 22/23 rulebook ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 6 minutes ago, Groby_Blue said: While not defending the club for the last couple of seasons and ultimately, this flustercuck we now find ourselves in, King Power are a multi billion pound company and you don't scale those heights without an elite legal team drawing up the small print. Top, Rudders and co may not appear to know what they're doing but surely they have a crack legal team behind them advising them. Whereas the premier league is tiny by comparison and sure to have a team of Lionel Hutzs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terraloon Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 7 minutes ago, st albans fox said: I’m intrigued we didn’t provide the PL with our accounts end dec as they expected us to so they didn’t have the evidence they needed to charge us we still haven’t filed out accounts when did we have to give the efl our expected numbers to end June 24 ? I’m thinking about now?? My point is where have the epl got our numbers from in order to charge us ?? If the efl have passed them over to the epl then I suspect that must have been a couple, weeks ago when the news leaked out that we had failed prem psr for last year to end June. In season there is a requirement to file information akin to audited accounts which I would imagine LFC complied with that would have given the PL very much the heads up and I would imagine those projections told the PL everything that was fequired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox1 Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 19 minutes ago, dylanlegend said: They was just talking about it on talksport. They said it’s estimated 80% of clubs are likely in breach of FFP rules, why the **** have we ended up being one of the first being charged? Because we are little old leicester city and because the top 6 hate us and don't want teams like us to win the pl again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/04/champions-league-leicester-relevent-sports-charlie-stillitano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filbert_Ross Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March The rules are crap. It's like winning the lotto and only being able to spend £700 a month whilst Bill Gates (Man U ) can spend what they like. always thought this and not a reaction to today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 2 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/04/champions-league-leicester-relevent-sports-charlie-stillitano For anyone who doesn't understand where the "We don't want too many Leicester Citys" quote comes from. How modern football became broken beyond repair | The Independent | The Independent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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