st albans fox Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 5 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said: March 1 apparently. According to Kieran Maguire on the When You’re Smiling podcast, basically because we told the EFL they couldn’t have our accounts because we were a Prem club, the Prem then said ‘well that must mean you were a Prem club then and should have put you accounts in for our December deadline’. it’s worth a listen. Maguire on for first 10ish minutes. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0hl4zg5 Edit - also, if that is the case, when and with who did Leeds and Southampton file their accounts? Yeah - just listened to that so the efl passed our numbers on which has led the epl to raise the charge. I do wonder if the expected numbers to end June 24 would have included enough detail to end June 23 for the PL to have worked out that we’d breached. you’d have to assume yes or they’d wait till end of the month when the accounts will be filed at companies house 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 2 minutes ago, Filbert_Ross said: The rules are crap. It's like winning the lotto and only being able to spend £700 a month whilst Bill Gates (Man U ) can spend what they like. always thought this and not a reaction to today. Well, ita like winning the lotto and buying a 2 bed terraced house for 10 million. Then going to maccies for dinner every day and insisting on paying 10k per meal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filbert_Ross Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 4 minutes ago, filbertway said: Well, ita like winning the lotto and buying a 2 bed terraced house for 10 million. Then going to maccies for dinner every day and insisting on paying 10k per meal What's wrong with that if you can afford it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March Just now, Filbert_Ross said: What's wrong with that if you can afford it ? Youll quickly have no money because you're overspending on crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filbert_Ross Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 1 minute ago, filbertway said: Youll quickly have no money because you're overspending on crap Man U overspending on crap? Alright for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tielemans63 Posted 21 March Popular Post Share Posted 21 March Wish the 'Big 6' had ****ed off to form their League of Greed. They're slowly killing the game in this country. It's no longer a sport, it's pure business. Maximise profits, exploit customers at all opportunities, eliminate the competition by any means necessary, reduce any risk to your position. This isn't throwing my toys out of the pram, I'm genuinely falling out of love with football, which I never thought I would say. FFP is such a bare-faced fix, including the word 'fair' in the title is absolutely laughable. All of that said, we're in this position because of mismanagement as much as we are concerted effort by other clubs to make sure we can never break into the cartel. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfcbluearmy Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 36 minutes ago, Terraloon said: The 22/23 rules were definitely in place the accelerated process wasnt hence why the PL say the timing is something the IC will take responsibility for. Ah OK fair enough that makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Corky Posted 21 March Popular Post Share Posted 21 March Cannot see a positive future under this ownership. We have been dreadfully run for at least three years, maybe more. That £92 million loss in one year was alarming. Think we are in for a painful time. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVFox Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March So it appears we've fallen into a grey area regarding when and who we submit accounts to. I just can't fathom how nobody at the club has felt this needs clarifying so that this exact situation doesn't arise?? Similarly, we can be pretty sure we have failed the FFP £105m limit, be interesting how much we've failed that by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 3 hours ago, FrankieADZ said: Failing to submit doesnt bode well for mitigation and compliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March Meh. Who cares 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 1 minute ago, Chrysalis said: Failing to submit doesnt bode well for mitigation and compliance. If the date wasn't clear to begin with, or who we submit them to because of our relegation, then what? It's a loophole, albeit probably a weak one in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ramadaone Posted 21 March Popular Post Share Posted 21 March I think the phrase is fecking bring it on you Premier League winkers We can't spend our money on players so we'll spend it on lawyers and we have got plenty of them Probably end in tears but at least we are standing up to the injustices of the Premier League where other clubs have just caved in and accepted their fate 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post I am an Ostrich Posted 21 March Popular Post Share Posted 21 March 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March I hope we shit house this we'd get to upset 2 divisions worth of fans 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox1 Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March So we've been made an example of over 3yr period when the likes of man city have done it over a period of 10yrs and Chelsea have been found to have been cooking the books don't get mentioned at all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 1 minute ago, Chrysalis said: Failing to submit doesnt bode well for mitigation and compliance. Can only assume that the club were advised it was actually possible for a prem league points deduction to be applied in the championship and therefore best to keep 22/23 hidden till March 1st when they’d have to be revealed to the football league. BUT that wouldn’t give enough time for us to be charged and then heard and then appealed before end of the season by thr PL. that also explains why we fought to stop the efl seeing our management accounts for this season last autumn (cos that would also have alerted the PL if the EFL had passed them on). There must have been a good reason for all this ‘skullduggery’ - otherwise why not just give the prem the accounts at the end of December if we weren’t concerned that we could be punished this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tielemans63 Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 13 minutes ago, Corky said: Cannot see a positive future under this ownership. We have been dreadfully run for at least three years, maybe more. That £92 million loss in one year was alarming. Think we are in for a painful time. Agree with all of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 2 hours ago, Pliskin said: To be fair, I think they may have ****ed themselves. I can see us wriggling out of this because of the EPL’s eagerness to drag us through the mud. We not getting any deductions to the punishment I reckon, the statement clearly shows we not cooperating under goodwill but instead only when legally obliged. Also reads as if we throwing the toys out of the pram, and no director has the balls to put their name put to the statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March Can the cost of lawyers be offset against your FFP losses? Asking for a friend… 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 3 minutes ago, ramadaone said: I think the phrase is fecking bring it on you Premier League winkers We can't spend our money on players so we'll spend it on lawyers and we have got plenty of them Probably end in tears but at least we are standing up to the injustices of the Premier League where other clubs have just caved in and accepted their fate What money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 1 minute ago, bluefox1 said: So we've been made an example of over 3yr period when the likes of man city have done it over a period of 10yrs and Chelsea have been found to have been cooking the books don't get mentioned at all don’t get mentioned at all ? so Man City’s 115 charges must be a mirage …… they won’t just disappear. They will have to be dealt wit( eventually. Way more complex than just spending too much chelsea are in the dirt next season if they don’t sell a shed load of home grown taken this June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 2 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Seeing as your other post got deleted, I'll quote this one. How long until someone says we shouldn't be discussing this, because we've only been "charged", and we should wait until there's a verdict? It does seem there is some kinds o blockage on certain criticism, in another thread the discussion ended with my post suggesting a potential change of ownership at the club, my post survived but the thread was locked ending that chain of discussion, if teapot didnt break any rules why was his post deleted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March 27 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/04/champions-league-leicester-relevent-sports-charlie-stillitano And this perfectly illustrates the cartel carve up. They don't want competition from anyone outside their favoured big clubs. What stinks is that I can remember when Chelsea, Man City, Man U and Spurs were all outside the top division even Liverpool used to be crap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravel Posted 21 March Share Posted 21 March Quick, expand the ground! In for a penny.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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