foxfanazer Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June Give it Nige and let's at least go down enjoying ourselves. In fact just get all of the old band together and have a testimonial season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoldenGod Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June Setting him up to fail because he's not gonna have the fans onboard from the off. Braindead and tone-deaf from the board if they go ahead with Cooper. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceebeefox Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June 48 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said: Same it's an absolute disgrace, he is a terrible football manager in the Premier League, not one stat tells me otherwise. There are at least 3 other better managers available who would at least get us competitive. Under Cooper we will be relegated, we will likely get a record points low and tge Forest fans will find it hilarious and call him 'agent cooper' when he takes us down with -5 points. Surely though you liken Cooper at Forest, certainly the first premier season, with Nigel’s great escape season?? We are now back to that and we will, as they did lose many games. His style of play though May suit us at a higher level than trying to pass through quality teams and full backs leaving their post and leaving huge holes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad the Fox Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June 15 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Forest were a sh1tshow of a club with all those players brought in (likely many without his knowledge) considering what he had to deal with he did ok I was speaking to a notts forest fan and last season and he said that some days players were turning up for training and cooper didn’t even know who they were, some others were signed and sent straight out on loan (to olympiacos) without ever setting foot in notts). Must have been difficult to manage under those circumstances. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nettle Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June (edited) 1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said: Despite us offering him the job? Have we actually offered him the job though? is it not just paper talk? Edited 6 June by nettle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdb Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June Beggars can't be choosers. A real shame because there is actually so much decent choice out there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolucklcfc Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June 6 minutes ago, Vlad the Fox said: I was speaking to a notts forest fan and last season and he said that some days players were turning up for training and cooper didn’t even know who they were, some others were signed and sent straight out on loan (to olympiacos) without ever setting foot in notts). Must have been difficult to manage under those circumstances. I think a lot of people overlook this. He was manager under a terrible owner who just signed who he wanted. At the end of the day, they did stay up. I like the job he did with England as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June 8 minutes ago, Vlad the Fox said: I was speaking to a notts forest fan and last season and he said that some days players were turning up for training and cooper didn’t even know who they were, some others were signed and sent straight out on loan (to olympiacos) without ever setting foot in notts). Must have been difficult to manage under those circumstances. Why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad the Fox Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June 1 minute ago, foxfanazer said: Why? Just so I can refer to them as notts forest to one of their fans. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June 23 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said: Hoping the Cooper speculation is the same as the Parker rumours last season: https://talksport.com/football/1909428/steve-cooper-leicester-next-manager-nottingham-forest/ That's important to remember. There will always be candidates who put themselves forward (usually out of work) and are interviewed. We did this with Gerrard and Parker last summer, who both were desperate for the job. But if we also have our own 1-2 priority targets then it's unlikely they'll impress enough when interviewed to sway it. Cooper will have been interviewed and maybe has done enough to propel him to being the choice we go with. I do believe Corberan was/is the preferred choice though initially, but maybe there's not much in it and we'd rather save the £4m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Aus Fox Posted 6 June Popular Post Share Posted 6 June Cooper for me, is the right choice for right now. For a starters, he’s free and relatively low cost compared to some of the alternatives- and regardless of what you think that’s important. Is he the man to get us challenging at the top end of the table again, probably not, but is he a man who can keep us in the division- absolutely he is. His knowledge of, and ability to get the best out of young players is something that is going to be crucial whilst we ride the financial wave we are currently in, and good management of young players and the ability to go back to turning a profit on low cost players is what we need to start moving forwards again. Cooper is the perfect man for the next two years whilst we get back on our feet as a football club, before the reigns get handed over to the person who can then start moving us back toward the top half again. Its a process, and right now we need the bloke who can keep us a float and give us the stability before we can stand on our own feet and start running again. For me, Cooper is the best option for right now. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetintedspecs Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June I can forsee this being pure a distraction to manipulate odds for an almighty orchestrated, but legal, betting coup 😉🤣 Or possibly the force someone else to show their hand tactic 🙏🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonfox1884 Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June Underwhelming but could be a lot worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankieADZ Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June 7 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: That's important to remember. There will always be candidates who put themselves forward (usually out of work) and are interviewed. We did this with Gerrard and Parker last summer, who both were desperate for the job. But if we also have our own 1-2 priority targets then it's unlikely they'll impress enough when interviewed to sway it. Cooper will have been interviewed and maybe has done enough to propel him to being the choice we go with. I do believe Corberan was/is the preferred choice though initially, but maybe there's not much in it and we'd rather save the £4m. dont forget on Coeberan, WBA have new owners now so he might have got some assurances from the new owner they could have some money to spend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FoxinNotts Posted 6 June Popular Post Share Posted 6 June (edited) From someone who is constantly having his ear bent, all day long, about all things 'Forest', I think there is quite a bit of a misconception out there, about how good Steve Cooper actually is. His 'style of play' of choice is actually quite progressive, and possession based. Forest went up with a shite load of loan players, and players which had contracts expiring. They had to have a massive turn around. They then went and bought a good number of players, which Cooper apparently had little say on. Cooper had to adapt his style to suit the players he then had been lumbered with, and he became a 'counter attacking' manager, for that season which he guided them to safety. Basically he adapted to the situation he found him self in, with the tools he had. I'm indifferent to Cooper TBH. If he does come, we as fans really need to get behind him. He had a great thing going with the Forest fans, and they really built up a 'siege mentality'. It hurts me to say, but I was quite jealous of the atmosphere they used to build up, especially at their home games, which we are desperately going to need next season. I'm not sure we have the type of fan base to get this going unfortunately. I think this 'backs to the wall mentality' which is inevitably required, is at the forefront of Rudkin's mind, which might point to the decision processes he's gong through. Interesting times indeed. Edited 6 June by FoxinNotts 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLAN Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June Look forward to the Origi/Dennis partnership next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk exile Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June Without pointing out the bleeding obvious, if it wasn't for his Forrest connections (say he'd managed to get Swansea into the Prem and keep them up), there wouldn't be this response from the fan base. However, as others have suggested he is on a hiding to nothing, before he even starts. Additionally, I cannot help but think that this is a smokescreen. I just can't see this one happening. Surely Top and co can't be this tone deaf? Could they??? I mean they have got so much right in the last couple of years.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 6 June Author Share Posted 6 June Moyes would be far superior to Cooper in every aspect and he’s a free agent.. But no our board are clueless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian__marshall Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June (edited) Why on earth do people keep referencing his PL stats/performance. He was literally given a group of misfits, many he didn't want, and ultimately kept them in the PL at our expense (despite the fact that we apparently had a group who were far too good to go down). He then had a whole load of other new players thrust on him again the following season, and lost his best striker to injury a month before getting sacked. I'm not necessarily an advocate but it seems rather unfair to judge him on his PL experience given he was working under a chairman who did everything possible to make the job 10x harder. If we go back to the end of Dean Smith's reign, I'd have snapped your hand off for a manager of Cooper's calibre given the standard of the managers in the market at that moment in time. Edited 6 June by ian__marshall 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June If it is Cooper, and I think and hope he's better than some on here think he is, the Forest issue is a nonsense when you consider MON and Wes, two of the club's legends. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYM Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June I’m more IND COOPE than Cooper In but if that’s who we’ll have it’ll be the polar opposite of what we’ve just had. Which is what we all wanted isn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June 6 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said: dont forget on Coeberan, WBA have new owners now so he might have got some assurances from the new owner they could have some money to spend There is that, as well as any potential fall out with the agent who represents Maresca and Corberan. Although he also represents Vardy so we'll have to dust ourselves down for those negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindaloo FOX Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June Cooper is not so bad, just wish he wasn't ex Forest, good luck to him if it's him, winning over our fan base will not be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesTalker Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June (edited) If it happens to be Cooper, granted he's probably not an ideal choice but our situation is far from ideal. So with that in mind, he could be the right fit at least on the face of it. Edited 6 June by AlexFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brookfox Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June If it is Cooper we better hope for an easy start to the season. A big points deduction and a low points tally in the first 5 games and it’ll be hard for him to turn the fans around. Get a few early decent results and his Forest connections will be long forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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