RumbleFox Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June (edited) I feel like Moyes is the boring choice. Probably had the highest low but the lowest high of all the candidates. We know he won’t ever get us above mid table. But he probably won’t take us down either. I wouldn’t want him. I don’t think he’s a bad manager, but I just would rather us take a punt. Edited 3 June by RumbleFox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lcfc_forever Posted 3 June Popular Post Share Posted 3 June (edited) Tanner said the board want to maintain the progressive, possession-based style of football so there is a long-term approach at the club. So doesn't sound like Moyes would be an option. Edited 3 June by lcfc_forever 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-sodapop Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June 1 minute ago, RumbleFox said: I feel like Moyes is the boring choice. Probably had the highest low but the lowest high of all the candidates. We know he won’t ever get us above mid table. But he probably won’t take us down either. I wouldn’t want him. I don’t think he’s a bad manager, but I just would rather us take a punt. Completely disagree on the lowest high. He won a European trophy for West Ham, I don't think any other manager with a major trophy would even look at us at this point. Boring football by all accounts, and I understand not wanting to subject ourselves to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Greg2607 Posted 3 June Popular Post Share Posted 3 June Imagine any other business where the responsibility for the main part of a £200m turnover organisation is given to someone with no real track record of delivering at that level or in the context of the situation the business is currently facing.... lots of our fans are saying "yeah that's go for that unproven person as he might have some great ideas"... we probably wouldn't be able to get him, but i'd pick Moyes all day long. He's picked clubs up by the scruff of the neck before and got them on a stable footing. If anyone is expecting us to reach the levels we had in recent years with the next manager, given our current context, then you are bonkers. We need someone to stabilise us, make us hard to beat and then let us build from there. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June 5 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said: Tanner said the board want to maintain the progressive, possession-based style of football so there is a long-term approach at the club. So doesn't sound like Moyes would be an option. Good. And unless Cooper has spent the last 6 months at the University of Pep, shaved his head and grown a solid stubble then i imagine it wont be him either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_forever Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June 5 minutes ago, Chelmofox said: Good. And unless Cooper has spent the last 6 months at the University of Pep, shaved his head and grown a solid stubble then i imagine it wont be him either. Makes more sense why we went after Sarri as well. Hopefully this is a sign that the club have learned its lessons and not being so reliant on one individual as we were with Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June (edited) 17 minutes ago, -sodapop said: Completely disagree on the lowest high. He won a European trophy for West Ham, I don't think any other manager with a major trophy would even look at us at this point. Boring football by all accounts, and I understand not wanting to subject ourselves to that. I meant he kind of has a ceiling whereas we’re not 100% sure what the ceiling is on the other candidates. He’s had a higher high in his career yes. But he’s certainly not an elite manager. Which is fine. And safe. I just meant personally I’d rather take a punt on someone who could end up being a top top tier manager. Even if the risks of that are they end up absolutely shit. Edited 3 June by RumbleFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxondale Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June Cooper is clearly an absolute genius. He managed to get an abysmal Forest team promoted somehow. I’d probably be more interested in him if we had failed to get promoted, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-sodapop Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June 3 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: I meant he kind of has a ceiling whereas we’re not 100% sure what the ceiling is on the other candidates. He’s had a higher high in his career yes. But he’s certainly not an elite manager. Which is fine. And safe. I just meant personally I’d rather take a punt on someone who could end up being a top top tier manager. Even if the risks of that are they end up absolutely shit. I get where you're coming from, but if we do take a gamble on somebody who turns out to be the second coming of Pep, we won't be able to keep a hold of them with the way we're ran and then we're back to square one. I mean hell, Maresca is a slightly above-average Pep impersonator and he's getting poached after one good season. I'd take 2 or 3 years of stability under Moyes at this point in the hope that we can get a clear-out behind the scenes and work to build from there. We hit the lotto once and we didn't/couldn't capitalise on it for long-term growth, I think we need a different approach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fazzyfox Posted 3 June Popular Post Share Posted 3 June 14 minutes ago, Chelmofox said: Good. And unless Cooper has spent the last 6 months at the University of Pep, shaved his head and grown a solid stubble then i imagine it wont be him either. Sorry, I have some bad news for you....... 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torten Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June Just now, fazzyfox said: Sorry, I have some bad news for you....... That's terrifying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June (edited) 3 minutes ago, -sodapop said: I get where you're coming from, but if we do take a gamble on somebody who turns out to be the second coming of Pep, we won't be able to keep a hold of them with the way we're ran and then we're back to square one. I mean hell, Maresca is a slightly above-average Pep impersonator and he's getting poached after one good season. I'd take 2 or 3 years of stability under Moyes at this point in the hope that we can get a clear-out behind the scenes and work to build from there. We hit the lotto once and we didn't/couldn't capitalise on it for long-term growth, I think we need a different approach. Yeah I’m probably in the minority. It’s a heart decision not a head one. I’d rather risk a great high or a great low than averageness. Like I’d rather take an FA Cup win and a relegation than a 10th place finish. But I fully understand wanting Moyes. He’s a solid choice and actually seems a decent guy. I liked him a lot back in his Everton days. I’m just a let’s go out in a blaze of glory type person. Edited 3 June by RumbleFox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June 7 minutes ago, fazzyfox said: Sorry, I have some bad news for you....... Genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June If Cooper is interviewed, I think he will come across pretty well. Could well be the decider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolucklcfc Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June 1 minute ago, Mickyblueeyes said: If Cooper is interviewed, I think he will come across pretty well. Could well be the decider. Honestly think it’ll be an Enzo style appointment, out of the box 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLC86 Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June 24 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: If Cooper is interviewed by a blind person, I think he will come across pretty well. Could well be the decider. Amended for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RumbleFox Posted 3 June Popular Post Share Posted 3 June The stuff about Cooper’s looks is so boring and unfunny. Embarrassing to read. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June 1 hour ago, lcfc_forever said: Tanner said the board want to maintain the progressive, possession-based style of football so there is a long-term approach at the club. So doesn't sound like Moyes would be an option. We simply have to, really. This season was going to be hard enough as it was, attempting to slip styles now would be risky. Not only that, but if we have been scouting for a load of highly technical players, there is no point suddenly getting a coach who may want a different profile of players. Whilst I didn't feel much about him going, it has well and truly screwed us up, considering we'd have spent the last 6 months basing most decisions around what he wants. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLC86 Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June 12 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: The stuff about Cooper’s looks is so boring and unfunny. Embarrassing to read. Thanks for the feedback Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 3 June Author Share Posted 3 June Carlos Cuesta? Who is Carlos Cuesta? The 28-year-old who never played professionally - who could land HUGE Premier League job | FourFourTwo Would be a gamble but if it pays off, we have the next manager to be raided by the Top 6 again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingpower Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June For anyone championing Michael Carrick, he's just signed a new contract at Middlesbrough, so we can cross him off the list 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodyFox Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June 1 minute ago, kingpower said: For anyone championing Michael Carrick, he's just signed a new contract at Middlesbrough, so we can cross him off the list Don’t think there’s any danger of that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolucklcfc Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June 10 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: Carlos Cuesta? Who is Carlos Cuesta? The 28-year-old who never played professionally - who could land HUGE Premier League job | FourFourTwo Would be a gamble but if it pays off, we have the next manager to be raided by the Top 6 again. Not the right fit for a relegation scrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYKL Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June At this point I'll take Rudkin in a tracksuit with dean smith as assistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxin_Mad Posted 3 June Share Posted 3 June 2 hours ago, ClaphamFox said: It's interesting that opinion seems so overwhelmingly negative about the prospect of it being Cooper. I always think it's useful to take note of how potential managers are regarded at their former clubs. As far as I can tell, Cooper is still held in very high regard at Swansea and Forest, and was apparently very well-thought of for his work in the England youth set-up. I just have this weird feeling that if it does end up being him, he might be one of those managers whose arrival is treated negatively by the fans but who goes on to become a bit of a legend. With respect the expectations of Forest and Swansea were somewhat different. The promotion was probably somewhat momentum, but Forest played some truely disgusting football. Peter Taylor was also well thought of in the England under 21s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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