guest123 Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June 59 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: It’s silly that Cooper faces so much hostility here because one of his career stops was Forest. I don’t think he’ll ever get a fair shake from a big chunk of the fandom if he gets the gig. Couldn’t care less about forest connections, or what he looks like. It’s the abysmal football he got forest playing. It might fluke a team staying up once but it ain’t a blue print, and let’s be right, he had some good players to work with. Hope I’m wrong and he does well but I’m so depressed about this one 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest123 Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June Dean smith vibes at Newcastle away all over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dan LCFC Posted 6 June Popular Post Share Posted 6 June 15 hours ago, inckley fox said: I'm not sure it's about what the papers might call 'exciting football'. I doubt he's asking for Keegan-era Newcastle! We've had some sides that were plain dull over the time period he's referencing. The way we played under Puel, or even Levein and (arguably) the second year of Pearson's first spell wasn't easy to watch, irrespective of the success. It was very conservative. And people rarely talk about the great entertainers of the Little and even O'Neill years. However in the case of those last two examples we were defined by our work-rate. We might have been defensive at times, but a combination of lower expectations, charged atmosphere and spirit made those eras more exhilarating. By contrast, last season seemed to be about playing in a way in which superior players could suffocate the game with possession. When that didn't work, we seemed to lack many of the qualities which you'd tend to associate with Leicester teams, like the ones that yo-yo'd between leagues in the past, occasionally upsetting the top flight apple-cart, or even the one which was our most successful ever side, eight years ago. So it's perhaps more about identity. You won't get away with playing O'Neill or Pearson-ball at Barcelona, and you'll struggle with Puel and Maresca-ball at Leicester, simply because it's not what the public responds to, it's not what excites us, and it's not even what brought us our greatest successes. People say 'but what about Bloomfield?' But the response is easy; at the time many preferred the more industrial football that preceded it under O'Farrell. In the end, Bloomfield was being booed from the terraces while we finished 11th. As for those who loved those goal-shy Bloomfield sides because they played 'the right way', well those voices have mostly gone now, albeit after years of complaining that the more successful sides under, say, O'Neill, weren't honouring some tradition which everyone else was in the process of forgetting. It's different now, of course, and harder to forget, because everyone can remember us being far more successful - playing a different way - in recent history. Until those achievements are eclipsed, that identity could hold strong for decades, as it did after Bloomfield, or longer. All of which makes Top's determination to reject that longer-standing footballing identity (which was the making of King Power's ownership, after their previous dalliances with a possession-based game under Sven) a hard sell. It seems both very un-Leicester, and less effective than something in recent memory. And the argument that it's more sustainable, based on the past few seasons, is clearly baseless. Fantastic post. Agree with every word. I think this fanbase wants quick football and responds to that in a way it simply won't respond to control and possession no matter how hard we try. I don't think it's unique to us though I think we're particularly of this persuasion after 2016. For that reason I think this should be what we look for. I think we'd really respond to a Klopp-lite. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudger63 Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June (edited) 7 hours ago, enmac said: Moyes also in the frame according to journo on Talksport. I would certainly take Moyes rather than Cooper. He has way more experience, and I think he would give us the best chance of staying up over not only Cooper, but anyone else that seems to be in the frame, and for this season, that really should be our only aim. If it is Cooper, then the Notts Forest thing won't matter if he gets off to a good start, but if he doesn't it will give him less time to turn it round, before the fans turn. Not a fan of Coopers football, and more especially the way he had players constantly going down feigning injury in order to break the game up, and waste time. Really didn't like that his goalkeepers kept getting cramp either! Ultimately it will be what it will be, and whoever we end up with,we have to get behind them, and hope for the best, even if we may fear the worst. Edited 6 June by smudger63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post K789 Posted 6 June Popular Post Share Posted 6 June Fine with Cooper, decent manager 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_favourite Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June If it is Cooper, then I feel very meh about it. I can't get excited, but if it's the best we can do, then fine. I'll be backing him all the way as we have our backs against the wall. Not my first choice, but meh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groby_Blue Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June He has concerns about safety and security? Can you elaborate on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 6 June Author Share Posted 6 June If Moyes is interested give him the job! Cooper would be a disaster see Rafa at Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Fannieri Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June 7 hours ago, LinekersLugs said: Steve cooper has been offered the job he has asked for 48 hrs to discuss with family and his staff Security and safety are one of his concerns the issue about the structure of the clubs recruitment and his role in recruitment is another sticking point 3 year deal offered, terms are not an issue and are agreeable, negotiations on going These are exclusive discussions and no other candidate being spoken to at this stage one of the major posters on this forum will verify that they were told this by me long before the sun broke the story Evens is buying money …: Appreciate the information, appears this is far from a foregone conclusion as from the sound of it, there are a number of sticking points. interestingly not from the Wassarman stable, he is represented by CAA Base Ltd who also represent Maddison and Casadei. personally I still think it will be someone else, we always seem to have a name leaked as front runner and then they fall away, happened with Scott Parker last year, Preki etc. Will be an interesting 48 hours or so to see what develops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June I assume by “security and safety” he means job security and uncertainty around points deduction? Surely can’t mean anything to do with the fact he managed forest and lives in Nottinghamshire still? All the forest fans I know worship him and hold it against the owner that he isn’t still with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooflip Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June It can’t be cooper. Surely Top can’t do that to us? We are going to stink the prem out this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nettle Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June i don't think it will be Cooper he doesn't strike me as a manger top would want. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June 3 minutes ago, nettle said: i don't think it will be Cooper he doesn't strike me as a manger top would want. Despite us offering him the job? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxin_Mad Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June (edited) If its Cooper we might as well give up now, 3rd rate Championship manager. Look at his Premier League stats, you would have to be a complete moron to employ that useless sack of shit. He kept Forest up only by the virtue that we were shit. I would say our survival chances are zero under that clueless muppet. Edited 6 June by Foxin_Mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyKopCorner Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June (edited) 34 minutes ago, nettle said: i don't think it will be Cooper he doesn't strike me as a manger top would want. He doesn't really fill any of Top's usual criteria i.e style of play, big or associated name, previous club experience etc etc #AnyonebutCooper Edited 6 June by CrazyKopCorner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxin_Mad Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June 3 hours ago, guest123 said: Couldn’t care less about forest connections, or what he looks like. It’s the abysmal football he got forest playing. It might fluke a team staying up once but it ain’t a blue print, and let’s be right, he had some good players to work with. Hope I’m wrong and he does well but I’m so depressed about this one This! It's that he is a genuinely bad manager. Look at his Premier League win rate it's horrific. Employing him says 1 thing - Championship football and oblivion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teblin Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June If it’s cooper, it wouldn’t be my choice. But we have to go into the season united and behind whoever it is. The adversity in terms of points we need to be together. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June 7 hours ago, LinekersLugs said: Steve cooper has been offered the job he has asked for 48 hrs to discuss with family and his staff Security and safety are one of his concerns the issue about the structure of the clubs recruitment and his role in recruitment is another sticking point 3 year deal offered, terms are not an issue and are agreeable, negotiations on going These are exclusive discussions and no other candidate being spoken to at this stage one of the major posters on this forum will verify that they were told this by me long before the sun broke the story Evens is buying money …: You did indeed tell me this a few days ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June 5 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said: If its Cooper we might as well give up now, 3rd rate Championship manager. Look at his Premier League stats, you would have to be a complete moron to employ that useless sack of shit. He kept Forest up only by the virtue that we were shit. I would say our survival chances are zero under that clueless muppet. Stop sitting on the fence....do you want him or not? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapero82 Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June I can’t believe people are happy with Cooper He was sacked for 1 win in 13! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 6 June Author Share Posted 6 June Just now, chapero82 said: I can’t believe people are happy with Cooper He was sacked for 1 win in 13! Just to piss off the Redshite for giggles is probably there thinking.. He’s incompetent though and if we hire Cooper we have signed our relegation warrant imo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxin_Mad Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June (edited) 8 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: Stop sitting on the fence....do you want him or not? Haha no. I genuinely think it could be one of the worst managerial appointments ever made by any top flight club. I'd probably rather have Steve Gerrard or Lampard. The guys statistics are just flat crap. At best he is a mediocre Championship manager, who punched slightly above his weight. Uninspiring negative shit. Edited 6 June by Foxin_Mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silva Fox Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June (edited) 7 hours ago, LinekersLugs said: Underwhelming was my response top is excited it seems And there lies the underlying problem! Edited 6 June by Silva Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June (edited) If its Cooper lets hope he has got it because he interviewed the best amongst several candidates showing the best plan and strategy etc. Please don't tell me he got it because he once 'kept forest up', because if we had done our job properly we would have made it much more difficult for them. Edited 6 June by Chelmofox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxin_Mad Posted 6 June Share Posted 6 June 2 minutes ago, chapero82 said: I can’t believe people are happy with Cooper He was sacked for 1 win in 13! Same it's an absolute disgrace, he is a terrible football manager in the Premier League, not one stat tells me otherwise. There are at least 3 other better managers available who would at least get us competitive. Under Cooper we will be relegated, we will likely get a record points low and tge Forest fans will find it hilarious and call him 'agent cooper' when he takes us down with -5 points. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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