KFS Posted 4 June Share Posted 4 June 11 minutes ago, Sly said: Can I be brutal and state Fatawu doesn’t improve Chelsea? Doesn’t seem to matter to them at the moment. Their guy is collecting players like baseball cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 4 June Share Posted 4 June 3 hours ago, KFS said: Doesn’t seem to matter to them at the moment. Their guy is collecting players like baseball cards PSR is coming for them next if they don’t have a fire sale by the 30th June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeybradger Posted 4 June Share Posted 4 June 6 hours ago, Sly said: Can I be brutal and state Fatawu doesn’t improve Chelsea? I think he's a similar level to Madueke and will turn out better over the course of his career. Madueke is good going forwards but doesn't help defensively at all whereas Fatawu is also good going forwards and helps out a lot defensively. Whether Fatawu is better than Estevao remains to be seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HybridFox Posted 4 June Share Posted 4 June 7 hours ago, Sly said: Can I be brutal and state Fatawu doesn’t improve Chelsea? Good job he's staying at Leicester then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock's Hill Posted 5 June Share Posted 5 June I noticed on Sky Sports "in" and "out" premier league transfer lists Fatawu is down as an "in" for us. Think they may be jumping the gun in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 5 June Share Posted 5 June 9 minutes ago, Jock's Hill said: I noticed on Sky Sports "in" and "out" premier league transfer lists Fatawu is down as an "in" for us. Think they may be jumping the gun in that? It's an obligation all parties agreed to last summer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 5 June Share Posted 5 June 10 minutes ago, Jock's Hill said: I noticed on Sky Sports "in" and "out" premier league transfer lists Fatawu is down as an "in" for us. Think they may be jumping the gun in that? Don't we have an obligation to buy him under the terms of the loan contract? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 5 June Share Posted 5 June We have an obligation to buy him at the price already agreed. Do people not understand the world obligation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 5 June Share Posted 5 June When we sign him, could he theoretically move in Janaury or does the 2 clubs max in one year rule still exist, ie Sporting and us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 5 June Share Posted 5 June 11 minutes ago, ARM1968 said: We have an obligation to buy him at the price already agreed. Do people not understand the world obligation? Obviously not 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock's Hill Posted 5 June Share Posted 5 June Will we have taken into account the fairly high fee for this? It means we have a lot to do to level out the figures this month even before any "fire sale" begins. If there is even any plan to sell some of our players". We are not renowned for getting deals done quickly so it could come down to the wire (as on deadline days). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardyfox86 Posted 5 June Share Posted 5 June 1 hour ago, Nalis said: When we sign him, could he theoretically move in Janaury or does the 2 clubs max in one year rule still exist, ie Sporting and us? Sporting won't register him in their squad and he won't play an official game, so I don't think it'll matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 7 June Share Posted 7 June ……….. ⏰ 👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 7 June Share Posted 7 June Just now, FoxinNotts said: ……….. ⏰ 👀 Will be in July. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 7 June Share Posted 7 June 11 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Will be in July. I get that for financial reasons the finance side of things should have to happen in July, I just can’t understand why we can’t announce it? 🤷🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 7 June Share Posted 7 June 7 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: I get that for financial reasons the finance side of things should have to happen in July, I just can’t understand why we can’t announce it? 🤷🏻♂️ Why would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 7 June Share Posted 7 June 2 minutes ago, Bert said: Why would they? To keep people like me happy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terraloon Posted 7 June Share Posted 7 June On 05/06/2024 at 11:33, Pliskin said: Obviously not 😂 If it truly is an obligation to buy then the finances of the deal appear for PSR/ FFP in the 22/23 numbers even if the deal doesn’t go through in the books until the 23/24 year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 7 June Share Posted 7 June 12 minutes ago, Terraloon said: If it truly is an obligation to buy then the finances of the deal appear for PSR/ FFP in the 22/23 numbers even if the deal doesn’t go through in the books until the 23/24 year. Really? How does that work? Was he signed when we were still technically under the PL rules and regs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terraloon Posted 7 June Share Posted 7 June Just now, Pliskin said: Really? How does that work? Was he signed when we were still technically under the PL rules and regs? I altered my op slightly. Bear in mind if he is bought on an truly obligation to buy there are no conditions attached to the loan The acquisition of a Player’s registration must be first recognised in the Annual Accounts when all significant conditions for the registration of the Player have been satisfied, i.e. it is effectively unconditional, which means that there must be a legally binding agreement between the two clubs (or other arrangement as approved in accordance with Regulation 50.2) and between the acquiring club and the Player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 7 June Share Posted 7 June 41 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: To keep people like me happy People like you are never happy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 7 June Share Posted 7 June 5 minutes ago, Terraloon said: I altered my op slightly. Bear in mind if he is bought on an truly obligation to buy there are no conditions attached to the loan The acquisition of a Player’s registration must be first recognised in the Annual Accounts when all significant conditions for the registration of the Player have been satisfied, i.e. it is effectively unconditional, which means that there must be a legally binding agreement between the two clubs (or other arrangement as approved in accordance with Regulation 50.2) and between the acquiring club and the Player It was on the condition that we were promoted and he played a certain amount of games, so surely the conditions weren’t satisfied until then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terraloon Posted 7 June Share Posted 7 June 7 minutes ago, moore_94 said: It was on the condition that we were promoted and he played a certain amount of games, so surely the conditions weren’t satisfied until then? That then isn’t a obligation to buy it’s a conditional loan. I have no idea if there were conditions but if you are right what day were those conditions met ? These sort of things are never as straightforward as they appear in the surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted 7 June Share Posted 7 June I would bet that for financial reasons, the football season isn't actually finished yet, so technically he would still be on loan. It was reported there were conditions to his loan becoming an obligation to buy, can't remember exactly what the conditions were but it was around him playing a certain amount of games and us gaining promotion. We can all be fairly certain those conditions were met. Once "post season" becomes "pre season" then I'm fairly certain this will be announced 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 7 June Share Posted 7 June 1 minute ago, Jimbo said: I would bet that for financial reasons, the football season isn't actually finished yet, so technically he would still be on loan. It was reported there were conditions to his loan becoming an obligation to buy, can't remember exactly what the conditions were but it was around him playing a certain amount of games and us gaining promotion. We can all be fairly certain those conditions were met. Once "post season" becomes "pre season" then I'm fairly certain this will be announced Thanks. That’s actually cleared it up for me. I am now happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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