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Group C: Slovenia, Denmark, Serbia, England

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Same old, same old from Southgate. Two dull performances, just one minor change to the squad. All the options to choose from, it's the same players being used... no squad rotation whatsoever. How do they expect young players like Mainoo, Gordon, Palmer and Wharton gain tournament experience when they don't get playing time.

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Just now, Leicesterpool said:

Same old, same old from Southgate. Two dull performances, just one minor change to the squad. All the options to choose from, it's the same players being used... no squad rotation whatsoever. How do they expect young players like Mainoo, Gordon, Palmer and Wharton gain tournament experience when they don't get playing time.

Yea it’s crazy and he’s wearing down all these players by using the same 10 for the first 3 games, the man has no idea what he is doing.

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Bobby Robson is lionised for taking a talented team to one WC semi in a low standard tournament (including two knockout games that could have easily gone the other way) and not a lot else, just saying.

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7 minutes ago, Daggers said:

Southgate is the worst england manager ever, imo. Such squandered talent. Such a poor attitude. 

No can't agree with that, Southgate is poor but other weaker managers who were worse, McClaren had players like Gerrard, Lampard, A.Cole, G.Neville, S.Campbell, Rooney, Terry & Ferdinand yet still couldn't qualify for a major tournament. Revie took England to their lowest world ranking, Graham Taylor completely took a decent squad of Gazza, Lineker, Butcher, Barnes, Waddle, Shilton, Pearce and Platt to pieces. Also don't forget Hodgson. 

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Right, we've offered absolutely nothing other than embarrassment to ourselves so far this tournament. 

 

What can I change to really spruce things up...I know, Gallagher. 

 

Sooner this horse face cvnt disappears off the face of the earth the better.

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Just now, Sunbury Fox said:

What is the question when the answer is the headless chicken Conor Gallagher?

 

So, we're sticking with no width on the left, a lack of progressive passing from CM and Foden being played out of position. FFS.

Yeah but it's just everyone being negative. They're learning and improving apparently 

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Just now, foxfanazer said:

Yeah but it's just everyone being negative. They're learning and improving apparently 

Sorry, forgot that! Not liking how ultra defensive England players are being in response to the very justified criticism. 

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1 minute ago, Sunbury Fox said:

Sorry, forgot that! Not liking how ultra defensive England players are being in response to the very justified criticism. 

Reminds me of Maddison when we were relegated. In fact there's a lot of comparisons to be made to that side and this England team 

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6 minutes ago, Daggers said:

I don’t remember Revie being dull…but then I was a babe. 

He wasn't dull, he was just shit at the job.

 

6 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said:

No can't agree with that, Southgate is poor but other weaker managers who were worse, McClaren had players like Gerrard, Lampard, A.Cole, G.Neville, S.Campbell, Rooney, Terry & Ferdinand yet still couldn't qualify for a major tournament. Revie took England to their lowest world ranking, Graham Taylor completely took a decent squad of Gazza, Lineker, Butcher, Barnes, Waddle, Shilton, Pearce and Platt to pieces. Also don't forget Hodgson. 

Yeah. A lot of recency bias going on.

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4 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Reminds me of Maddison when we were relegated. In fact there's a lot of comparisons to be made to that side and this England team 

That is spot on. Only difference is that unlike Rodgers, Southgate is trying his best; he's just incompetent. 

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9 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said:

No can't agree with that, Southgate is poor but other weaker managers who were worse, McClaren had players like Gerrard, Lampard, A.Cole, G.Neville, S.Campbell, Rooney, Terry & Ferdinand yet still couldn't qualify for a major tournament. Revie took England to their lowest world ranking, Graham Taylor completely took a decent squad of Gazza, Lineker, Butcher, Barnes, Waddle, Shilton, Pearce and Platt to pieces. Also don't forget Hodgson. 

 

1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

He wasn't dull, he was just shit at the job.

 

Yeah. A lot of recency bias going on.

I don’t care about the results, I don’t care whether England win or lose, from an entertainment perspective coupled with the talent available, Southgate’s inability to attack and remain dominant in a match for 90 minutes puts him as the worst. He’s not learnt from any tournament or criticism. 
 

If you’re content with the shit he serves up then I’m delighted for you. By and large I find it really fvcking dull. 

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3 minutes ago, Daggers said:

 

I don’t care about the results, I don’t care whether England win or lose, from an entertainment perspective coupled with the talent available, Southgate’s inability to attack and remain dominant in a match for 90 minutes puts him as the worst. He’s not learnt from any tournament or criticism. 
 

If you’re content with the shit he serves up then I’m delighted for you. By and large I find it really fvcking dull. 

Fair enough man, we come at it from different directions and that's totally OK. I'm all about the numbers and the results but that's the way my own brain works.

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