Hermansen

[foxinsocks]

Ward cost us 9 points and relegation.  Never again

[lcfc sheff]

Hermansen would be incredibly valuable to a team like Barca, Man City and Chelsea who are gonna play in a possession based style. Therefore his price is £40m+ as I don’t think there is many on the market as good on the ball, as quick off the line and tbh a very decent shot stopper.

[Reg Vardy]

7 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

This.

 

**** Chelsea. 

Kante £20m, Drinkwater £35m Fofana £80m Chilwell £60m KDH £30m Enzo £10m we would have been in deep doo soo without them…..

[BillyFOX12]

3 hours ago, foxinsocks said:

Ward cost us 9 points and relegation.  Never again

If Mads leaves, I believe he will start in a few games. He is a Premier League goalkeeper and a national team goalkeeper with experience in the Euros and the World Cup.

[CountesthorpeFox1]

I don’t think he will go. I think Enzo will want him, we will price him too high and they’ll go for somebody else on the shortlist for a reasonable price.

 

We will have him for one more season and if we stay up or go down we end up selling him next year for 30 mill to a champions league team.

 

I think most of the talk surrounding him and Chelsea is lazy journalism. No doubt he will be on the shortlist but for the right price and I don’t think ours and Chelsea’s valuations will be anywhere near each other’s currently.

[Mickyblueeyes]

Losing Mads at this stage would be upsetting. More so and by some distance than KDH going. I liked KDH but the timing was right and was very much a sale we needed. A good keeper is massive. We learnt that the hard way. I just don’t think we have enough time to sign such a key position with the other deals we need to do before the start of the season. 
 

And also can’t see us turning down £30 +m for him. It’s a great fee for us.

[davieG]

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/leicester-city-must-remember-relegation-9429649

 

Leicester City must remember relegation lesson if tempting £45m transfer proposed
Chelsea and Enzo Maresca want a new goalkeeper and Mads Hermansen is admired, but City should not need reminding how important he could be to their survival hopes

ByJordan Blackwell
07:00, 23 JUL 2024

As much research as managers do before they join new clubs, whether it be watching old matches or analysing stats, they cannot truly come to conclusions on the players they’re inheriting until they’re on the training pitch and coaching them.

That’s true for Steve Cooper at Leicester City and it’s true for Enzo Maresca now at Chelsea. And after a few weeks of City’s old boss overseeing his new squad in the capital, it’s emerged that he wants a new goalkeeper. That’s troubling.

For now, the line is that Maresca likes Robert Sanchez and will install him as Chelsea’s number one this season, but that he wants someone to challenge and push him. And given Mads Hermansen was his first-choice goalkeeper target at City, Maresca will no doubt be telling Chelsea to consider the Dane.

 

When Maresca moved to Stamford Bridge, Hermansen was top of the list of City players he was predicted to poach, above Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall. Having a goalkeeper who is both talented and composed with the ball at his feet is integral to Maresca’s style of play and it felt, based on the quality of players he was inheriting versus those he was leaving behind, that Hermansen would give him an easy upgrade.

So how much would the 24-year-old cost if Chelsea did come calling? A figure emerged over the weekend explaining that City value the Dane at £45m. For those who don’t follow the club closely, that may seem steep for a goalkeeper who cost just £6.5m a year ago, even if he did earn a spot in the Championship team of the season.

But City fans may say that’s not enough. Because while there were an abundance of lessons to be learned from their last relegation, one that stands out is how important a good goalkeeper is. In short, it can be the difference between staying up and going down, and that’s worth far more than £45m.

 

Look at the statistics for the 22-23 season, and the worst-performing keepers by the measure of post-shot expected goals – how likely shots on target faced by a keeper will find the net based on the league average – were Gavin Bazunu, Illan Meslier, Dean Henderson, and Danny Ward. Among that quartet are the number ones for the three teams who went down, Southampton and Leeds joining City in the drop zone.

Henderson, meanwhile, did not get his place back at Nottingham Forest after he picked up an injury, and so only played half the season. Keylor Navas finished the campaign in goal and Forest stayed up. That looks decisive.

Based on the data, City were expected to concede 55 goals from the shots on target they faced, only the sixth-worst in the division. They actually conceded 68 goals. Meanwhile at another relegation rival in Everton, the stats said they should have conceded 60 goals. With Jordan Pickford between the sticks, they let in 57.

 

Going into this season with Hermansen corrects that issue. Because not only is he excellent with his feet, he keeps the ball out of the net too. No keeper in the Championship performed as well as Hermansen did by that metric last season, the Dane preventing six more goals than he was expected to concede.

Now, City could probably sign a very good goalkeeper, and with change to spare, by selling Hermansen for £45m. But there would be no guarantees a new man would fit in at City. Good players flop at new clubs all of the time.

With Hermansen, City do have guarantees. They have a year of evidence that he’s capable of dealing with the pressure of being a number one, that he works well in tandem with the defenders at the club, and that he fits in with the group as a whole.

In short, keeping him is their safest bet. If a big offer came in, it would definitely be tempting, given the huge profit they could make. But to stay up, City have to show they have learned lessons from two seasons ago. Rejecting any advances for Hermansen and keeping him as their number one would be evidence that one of the problems of their relegation has been understood and addressed.

[mozartfox]

I heard some Chelsea Podcaster this morning on Talkshi*te say that if Chelsea do not finish top 4, Enzo will be gone after one season. So Mads does need to consider the basket case element at Chelsea.

[Long Eaton Fox]

If we get £45m for Hermanson and get Soule and O'riley I would be delighted.

[shen]

Ironically, if do one better than last time - i.e. sell TWO Danish goalies in one window - Ward is still likely to be on the bench at best.

[foxinsocks]

5 hours ago, BillyFOX12 said:

If Mads leaves, I believe he will start in a few games. He is a Premier League goalkeeper and a national team goalkeeper with experience in the Euros and the World Cup.

Are you related to him?

[Finnegan]

5 hours ago, BillyFOX12 said:

He is a national team goalkeeper with experience in the Euros and the World Cup

 

Come on man, supporting Wales is hard enough without you putting the boot in. 

 

[VLC86]

3 hours ago, davieG said:

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/leicester-city-must-remember-relegation-9429649

 

Leicester City must remember relegation lesson if tempting £45m transfer proposed
Chelsea and Enzo Maresca want a new goalkeeper and Mads Hermansen is admired, but City should not need reminding how important he could be to their survival hopes

ByJordan Blackwell
07:00, 23 JUL 2024

As much research as managers do before they join new clubs, whether it be watching old matches or analysing stats, they cannot truly come to conclusions on the players they’re inheriting until they’re on the training pitch and coaching them.

That’s true for Steve Cooper at Leicester City and it’s true for Enzo Maresca now at Chelsea. And after a few weeks of City’s old boss overseeing his new squad in the capital, it’s emerged that he wants a new goalkeeper. That’s troubling.

For now, the line is that Maresca likes Robert Sanchez and will install him as Chelsea’s number one this season, but that he wants someone to challenge and push him. And given Mads Hermansen was his first-choice goalkeeper target at City, Maresca will no doubt be telling Chelsea to consider the Dane.

 

When Maresca moved to Stamford Bridge, Hermansen was top of the list of City players he was predicted to poach, above Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall. Having a goalkeeper who is both talented and composed with the ball at his feet is integral to Maresca’s style of play and it felt, based on the quality of players he was inheriting versus those he was leaving behind, that Hermansen would give him an easy upgrade.

So how much would the 24-year-old cost if Chelsea did come calling? A figure emerged over the weekend explaining that City value the Dane at £45m. For those who don’t follow the club closely, that may seem steep for a goalkeeper who cost just £6.5m a year ago, even if he did earn a spot in the Championship team of the season.

But City fans may say that’s not enough. Because while there were an abundance of lessons to be learned from their last relegation, one that stands out is how important a good goalkeeper is. In short, it can be the difference between staying up and going down, and that’s worth far more than £45m.

 

Look at the statistics for the 22-23 season, and the worst-performing keepers by the measure of post-shot expected goals – how likely shots on target faced by a keeper will find the net based on the league average – were Gavin Bazunu, Illan Meslier, Dean Henderson, and Danny Ward. Among that quartet are the number ones for the three teams who went down, Southampton and Leeds joining City in the drop zone.

Henderson, meanwhile, did not get his place back at Nottingham Forest after he picked up an injury, and so only played half the season. Keylor Navas finished the campaign in goal and Forest stayed up. That looks decisive.

Based on the data, City were expected to concede 55 goals from the shots on target they faced, only the sixth-worst in the division. They actually conceded 68 goals. Meanwhile at another relegation rival in Everton, the stats said they should have conceded 60 goals. With Jordan Pickford between the sticks, they let in 57.

 

Going into this season with Hermansen corrects that issue. Because not only is he excellent with his feet, he keeps the ball out of the net too. No keeper in the Championship performed as well as Hermansen did by that metric last season, the Dane preventing six more goals than he was expected to concede.

Now, City could probably sign a very good goalkeeper, and with change to spare, by selling Hermansen for £45m. But there would be no guarantees a new man would fit in at City. Good players flop at new clubs all of the time.

With Hermansen, City do have guarantees. They have a year of evidence that he’s capable of dealing with the pressure of being a number one, that he works well in tandem with the defenders at the club, and that he fits in with the group as a whole.

In short, keeping him is their safest bet. If a big offer came in, it would definitely be tempting, given the huge profit they could make. But to stay up, City have to show they have learned lessons from two seasons ago. Rejecting any advances for Hermansen and keeping him as their number one would be evidence that one of the problems of their relegation has been understood and addressed.

Could have saved themselves some work and just posted a picture of Ward.

[FrankieADZ]

Chelsea will not pay what we want for MH

think theyll want to pay £25/30mil max, and we will want nearer 45mil

 

 

[Marshall Cockney Fox]

Buying a keeper who can legitimately keep a clean sheet should come at a premium. He is a very good, young keeper who is on the way up. So he should have a silly price tag in my opinion. 

[Gamble92]

They'll offer £20m and Sanchez to us on loan

[FoxinNotts]

1 hour ago, Gamble92 said:

They'll offer £20m and Sanchez to us on loan

Would take that

[FoxOnWheels]

5 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

Would take that

You take 20M and Sanchez on loan? Mads is worth crazy money to a certain amount of clubs the guy has the ability of his feet better than half centre mids in the league and is a solid keeper to who’s young he’s worth mega bucks

[FoxinNotts]

17 minutes ago, FoxOnWheels said:

You take 20M and Sanchez on loan? Mads is worth crazy money to a certain amount of clubs the guy has the ability of his feet better than half centre mids in the league and is a solid keeper to who’s young he’s worth mega bucks

No, fair enough. Good point well made. Thinking about it, I'd take £30m and Sanchez on loan, with an option

[JimJams]

You don't take less than Sanchez cost when you're selling his replacement.

[Gevans_97]

People talking about Ward are forgetting about Stolarczyk - who was the clear number 2 last year and was excellent in all of the games he played. I almost felt bad for him that he didn’t play more.

 

Time to step up? Would the £45m be spent better elsewhere in the team?

[Gamble92]

1 hour ago, FoxinNotts said:

Would take that

[ClaphamFox]

4 minutes ago, Gevans_97 said:

People talking about Ward are forgetting about Stolarczyk - who was the clear number 2 last year and was excellent in all of the games he played. I almost felt bad for him that he didn’t play more.

 

Time to step up? Would the £45m be spent better elsewhere in the team?

People talking about Ward being number one again are being very silly indeed. Just ignore them.

[Ric Flair]

23 minutes ago, Gevans_97 said:

People talking about Ward are forgetting about Stolarczyk - who was the clear number 2 last year and was excellent in all of the games he played. I almost felt bad for him that he didn’t play more.

 

Time to step up? Would the £45m be spent better elsewhere in the team?

May well have a long term injury....

[coolhandfox]

4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

May well have a long term injury....

 

Stolarczyk?