Steve Cooper - New Manager

[Ric Flair]

14 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

27 points was enough to survive last season maybe 35 would do it

Highly doubt it, last season was exceptional circumstances due to how crap the 3 promoted sides were. 

[Babylon]

16 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Judging a manager by how many games he wins, wherever next, judging a striker by how many goals he scores.

 

It's hardly controversial is it.

 

What other metrics can you use?

The majority of promoted managers have low win percentage’s. Because… duh duh duh they generally have the worst players to use. 
 

Pointing at a win percentage of someone whose team was a relegation favourite, that everyone on here wrote off before the season started, who actually kept them up against the odds. And saying oooh it’s not great, like it’s bad when in reality it was mission accomplished for them.

 

Not forgetting it doesn’t even include draws, which can make a massive difference. 
 

Manager 1: Win 5 draw 5 Lose 5 = 20 points. 

Manager 2: Win 6 draw 1 Lose 8 = 19 points. 
 

Quick let’s higher manager two as he has a higher win percentage and yet got less points!

[whoareyaaa]

25 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Highly doubt it, last season was exceptional circumstances due to how crap the 3 promoted sides were. 

True, I still think our squad is just as good if not better than Ipswich, Southampton, Forest, Brentford, Fulham

Edited 24 June by whoareyaaa

[LCFCJohn]

14 minutes ago, Babylon said:

The majority of promoted managers have low win percentage’s. Because… duh duh duh they generally have the worst players to use. 
 

Pointing at a win percentage of someone whose team was a relegation favourite, that everyone on here wrote off before the season started, who actually kept them up against the odds. And saying oooh it’s not great, like it’s bad when in reality it was mission accomplished for them.

 

Not forgetting it doesn’t even include draws, which can make a massive difference. 
 

Manager 1: Win 5 draw 5 Lose 5 = 20 points. 

Manager 2: Win 6 draw 1 Lose 8 = 19 points. 
 

Quick let’s higher manager two as he has a higher win percentage and yet got less points!

True. Look at Maresca and Pearson in the respective promotion seasons. Both won 31 games out of 46 (both great achievements) so both have the same win percentage. But Pearson achieved 5 more points because Maresca lost about 25% of his games! If you can’t win a game, don’t lose it as the saying goes! (Of course try to win).

[sm1]

1 hour ago, whoareyaaa said:

27 points was enough to survive last season maybe 35 would do it

35 pts would see us beat relegation 9 out of the last 10 seasons. With the same pts deduction as Everton, we'd need about 43pts. If we get less, we could get by with 40/41pts. Highly doable, considering Cooper got 38pts in his 1st season with Forest and its basket case owner.

Edited 24 June by sm1

[Molson Canadian]

I'm backing him.  As we should for any manager we hire in my opinion. 

 

Let's see how he gets on, and also find out if he is flexible enough to get his head in the sand. 

[st albans fox]

28 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

True, I still think our squad is just as good if not better than Ipswich, Southampton, Forest, Brentford, Fulham

I don’t think it currently is re forest, Brentford and Fulham 

 

we’ll find out in two months! 

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, st albans fox said:

I don’t think it currently is re forest, Brentford and Fulham 

 

we’ll find out in two months! 

We came down with a Prem team and managed to keep most together we have also added a better keeper in Mads, experience in Coady, Winks who is better than all teams mentioned midfielders, two wingers with a point to prove I think we will be fine tbh.

[Ric Flair]

32 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

True, I still think our squad is just as good if not better than Ipswich, Southampton, Forest, Brentford, Fulham

Hmmmm there's a nucleus of good players bit it's got vast gaps in it and we've no idea of what budget we'll have in order to try and comply with PSR for 2024/25.

 

Right now the current squad is not strong enough. We've lost more than most.

[MGLCFC]

32 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

True, I still think our squad is just as good if not better than Ipswich, Southampton, Forest, Brentford, Fulham

I'm going even further. It's not how good the squad is, it's how good the team is. We didn't have the best squad when we won the league, but team togetherness shone through. For me this is the key. We have a decent squad, but is our team better?

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, MGLCFC said:

I'm going even further. It's not how good the squad is, it's how good the team is. We didn't have the best squad when we won the league, but team togetherness shone through. For me this is the key. We have a decent squad, but is our team better?

Well they all played together last year and won a league so I think that team togetherness will only get stronger this season as the majority will still be here.

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

The majority of promoted managers have low win percentage’s. Because… duh duh duh they generally have the worst players to use. 
 

Pointing at a win percentage of someone whose team was a relegation favourite, that everyone on here wrote off before the season started, who actually kept them up against the odds. And saying oooh it’s not great, like it’s bad when in reality it was mission accomplished for them.

 

Not forgetting it doesn’t even include draws, which can make a massive difference. 
 

Manager 1: Win 5 draw 5 Lose 5 = 20 points. 

Manager 2: Win 6 draw 1 Lose 8 = 19 points. 
 

Quick let’s higher manager two as he has a higher win percentage and yet got less points!

He's point per games isn't great either at 0.9 pts per game....

 

Nuno Espirito Santo out performed him with the same squad, but probably down to new managers bounce.

 

I'm not against him, he's probably one of the limit option we have.

 

There are few metric to measure managers performance, you can't just ignore it or PPG.

 

It's about taking a balance view.

 

[st albans fox]

38 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

We came down with a Prem team and managed to keep most together we have also added a better keeper in Mads, experience in Coady, Winks who is better than all teams mentioned midfielders, two wingers with a point to prove I think we will be fine tbh.

Winks a better 6 than paulinha ?

Mads is untested at PL level.  Leno is a v good keeper 

 

if we can take momentum from promotion into the season then yes, we could be fine.  But then there’s the points deduction to take into account, sadly this season will be way tougher in the PL than last in the relegation area 

[the draper]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

Highly doubt it, last season was exceptional circumstances due to how crap the 3 promoted sides were. 

Do you think this 3 are much better?? 

 

They will spend less 

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, the draper said:

Do you think this 3 are much better?? 

 

They will spend less 

Suppose the argument is that this time, two of the promoted clubs came up with partial premier league squads.

[whoareyaaa]

8 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Winks a better 6 than paulinha ?

Mads is untested at PL level.  Leno is a v good keeper 

 

if we can take momentum from promotion into the season then yes, we could be fine.  But then there’s the points deduction to take into account, sadly this season will be way tougher in the PL than last in the relegation area 

Mads have proven he is a good keeper and he won't have to play under so much pressure like he was under Enzo with the passing into midfield. 

 

I don't think it will be tougher as we have a manager that wants to be here, unlike Dodgers.

[LCFCCHRIS]

Bloody hell, his mum must have been astonished when he came out with those first words 

[the draper]

1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

Suppose the argument is that this time, two of the promoted clubs came up with partial premier league squads.

Partial 

 

I guess is correct 

 

Small part partial 

[Tielemans63]

2 hours ago, st albans fox said:

I don’t think it currently is re forest, Brentford and Fulham 

 

we’ll find out in two months! 

Totally agree. I'd say Brentford and Fulham both have a much stronger squad than our's 

[davieG]

https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/24407172.leicester-citys-steve-cooper-spotted-gresford-athletic/

 

Leicester City's Steve Cooper spotted at Gresford Athletic
24th June

WREXHAM
By Arron Evans
@ArronEvansNews
 

A NEWLY-appointed Premier League manager was spotted at a football match in the Wrexham area over the weekend.

Steve Cooper has just recently been appointed as boss of newly-promoted club Leicester City.

The Foxes' previous manager Enzo Maresca took over as Chelsea boss earlier this month, despite having taken Leicester up from the Championship as champions.

Cooper, 44, was previously with Swansea City and Nottingham Forest.

During his playing days, he was a defender who turned out for the likes of Bangor City, Rhyl and TNS and was also on the books of Wrexham AFC.

He began his coaching career at Wrexham's academy before moving to Liverpool and later the England youth set-up, where he went on to win the FIFA U-17 World Cup with the U17's side back in 2017.

Over the weekend, he returned to Wrexham to watch some football unfold.

Fans were surprised to find Cooper at Gresford Athletic Reserves' match against Caerwys Reserves on Saturday (June 22).

FAW referee Lewys Thomson-Williams shared a picture of him with the Premier League manager to X (formerly Twitter).

He said: "What a lovely guy, absolute pleasure meeting him today and to receive refereeing compliments too."

Gresford Athletic commented: "Steve Cooper is a Gresford Athletic Reserves fan, pass it on…

"Great to see the Leicester City Football Club Manager at the game against CPD Caerwys FC Reserves today!"

[NaijaFox]

On 20/06/2024 at 05:01, Mark said:

 

Such a DISAPPOINTING AND UNDERWHELMING choice! 

[kenny]

23 minutes ago, davieG said:

https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/24407172.leicester-citys-steve-cooper-spotted-gresford-athletic/

 

Leicester City's Steve Cooper spotted at Gresford Athletic
24th June

WREXHAM
By Arron Evans
@ArronEvansNews
 

A NEWLY-appointed Premier League manager was spotted at a football match in the Wrexham area over the weekend.

Steve Cooper has just recently been appointed as boss of newly-promoted club Leicester City.

The Foxes' previous manager Enzo Maresca took over as Chelsea boss earlier this month, despite having taken Leicester up from the Championship as champions.

Cooper, 44, was previously with Swansea City and Nottingham Forest.

During his playing days, he was a defender who turned out for the likes of Bangor City, Rhyl and TNS and was also on the books of Wrexham AFC.

He began his coaching career at Wrexham's academy before moving to Liverpool and later the England youth set-up, where he went on to win the FIFA U-17 World Cup with the U17's side back in 2017.

Over the weekend, he returned to Wrexham to watch some football unfold.

Fans were surprised to find Cooper at Gresford Athletic Reserves' match against Caerwys Reserves on Saturday (June 22).

FAW referee Lewys Thomson-Williams shared a picture of him with the Premier League manager to X (formerly Twitter).

He said: "What a lovely guy, absolute pleasure meeting him today and to receive refereeing compliments too."

Gresford Athletic commented: "Steve Cooper is a Gresford Athletic Reserves fan, pass it on…

"Great to see the Leicester City Football Club Manager at the game against CPD Caerwys FC Reserves today!"

Scouting our first signing?

 

Who says we have no cash!

 

[FLAN]

1 hour ago, davieG said:

https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/24407172.leicester-citys-steve-cooper-spotted-gresford-athletic/

 

Leicester City's Steve Cooper spotted at Gresford Athletic
24th June

WREXHAM
By Arron Evans
@ArronEvansNews
 

A NEWLY-appointed Premier League manager was spotted at a football match in the Wrexham area over the weekend.

Steve Cooper has just recently been appointed as boss of newly-promoted club Leicester City.

The Foxes' previous manager Enzo Maresca took over as Chelsea boss earlier this month, despite having taken Leicester up from the Championship as champions.

Cooper, 44, was previously with Swansea City and Nottingham Forest.

During his playing days, he was a defender who turned out for the likes of Bangor City, Rhyl and TNS and was also on the books of Wrexham AFC.

He began his coaching career at Wrexham's academy before moving to Liverpool and later the England youth set-up, where he went on to win the FIFA U-17 World Cup with the U17's side back in 2017.

Over the weekend, he returned to Wrexham to watch some football unfold.

Fans were surprised to find Cooper at Gresford Athletic Reserves' match against Caerwys Reserves on Saturday (June 22).

FAW referee Lewys Thomson-Williams shared a picture of him with the Premier League manager to X (formerly Twitter).

He said: "What a lovely guy, absolute pleasure meeting him today and to receive refereeing compliments too."

Gresford Athletic commented: "Steve Cooper is a Gresford Athletic Reserves fan, pass it on…

"Great to see the Leicester City Football Club Manager at the game against CPD Caerwys FC Reserves today!"

Hasn’t moved in to a seagrave. Cooper out!

[tinpot_fox]

1 hour ago, kenny said:

Scouting our first signing?

 

Who says we have no cash!

 

Scouting the ref?

[tinpot_fox]

2 hours ago, davieG said:

https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/24407172.leicester-citys-steve-cooper-spotted-gresford-athletic/

 

Leicester City's Steve Cooper spotted at Gresford Athletic
24th June

WREXHAM
By Arron Evans
@ArronEvansNews
 

A NEWLY-appointed Premier League manager was spotted at a football match in the Wrexham area over the weekend.

Steve Cooper has just recently been appointed as boss of newly-promoted club Leicester City.

The Foxes' previous manager Enzo Maresca took over as Chelsea boss earlier this month, despite having taken Leicester up from the Championship as champions.

Cooper, 44, was previously with Swansea City and Nottingham Forest.

During his playing days, he was a defender who turned out for the likes of Bangor City, Rhyl and TNS and was also on the books of Wrexham AFC.

He began his coaching career at Wrexham's academy before moving to Liverpool and later the England youth set-up, where he went on to win the FIFA U-17 World Cup with the U17's side back in 2017.

Over the weekend, he returned to Wrexham to watch some football unfold.

Fans were surprised to find Cooper at Gresford Athletic Reserves' match against Caerwys Reserves on Saturday (June 22).

FAW referee Lewys Thomson-Williams shared a picture of him with the Premier League manager to X (formerly Twitter).

He said: "What a lovely guy, absolute pleasure meeting him today and to receive refereeing compliments too."

Gresford Athletic commented: "Steve Cooper is a Gresford Athletic Reserves fan, pass it on…

"Great to see the Leicester City Football Club Manager at the game against CPD Caerwys FC Reserves today!"

So… fan attire for the first game back in the Premier League is, tan T shirt, black shorts and sun glasses?