England Vs Slovakia - 5pm Kick Off Sunday 30th June 2024

[foxfanazer]

Calm? They almost look sedated 

[Fear Of The Fox]

24 minutes ago, Royston. said:

shouldnt play even if available, has been ineffective and thats putting it kindly

Bellingham has been the same, Kane and Trippier to name a few. 

I have a better idea. Drop all 11 (including Pickford who is due a huge mistake Carrius style). 

[Raj]

England  will win.

The nation gets all excited.

It's coming home in full force, lose next round to a team not made of players who play their trade as part time builders and plumbers!

[Parafox]

1 hour ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

I don't think Foden is starting on Sunday? He'll be back either Saturday or Sunday morning. A player that has missed pre match preparation and training shouldn't be in the squad. 

 

Bloke needs to get his priorities right.

 

 

 

 

Oh wait, he has.

[Raj]

@StanSP letting your standards slip kiddo.

Wheres the  thread for the 2nd game of Sunday?

Tut tut

Edited 27 June by Raj

[ClaphamFox]

3 hours ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

I didn't say he isn't actually available. I said he shouldn't be available. The lad is still in England with a projected earlier return to the squad on Saturday. He's going to miss almost all the training and pre game preparation. 

Ofc there's a big chance this team's training is just 5h sessions in EA FC24 and 6h sessions in Tik Tok.

Foden is flying back to Germany tonight ao he can play on Sunday.

[Naat]

 

 

[Leicesterpool]

Bore game coming I fear again, imagine going out Sunday to Slovakia. Southgate honesty may have to emigrate to Australia for his own safety, the tournament and performances in general but losing to lowly Slovakia, wow never mind beer cups being lobbed out at him could end up being tomato's at Stansted.  

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

After the first 7 or 8 games being absolute belters the general quality in the tournament has gone to the absolute dogs. A lot of that is down to the format which absolutely encourages negative football as so many teams progress. Only 1 or 2 teams have actually looked good, Austria and Spain the only 2 that spring to mind. England, France, Belgium, Italy and a few more of the fancied nations have to massively improve.

[Jon the Hat]

So the only balanced midfield we have played is with Mainoo, Rice and Bellingham and everyone wants to ditch Mainoo and try something else?  Mental.

[ClaphamFox]

6 hours ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

After the first 7 or 8 games being absolute belters the general quality in the tournament has gone to the absolute dogs. A lot of that is down to the format which absolutely encourages negative football as so many teams progress. Only 1 or 2 teams have actually looked good, Austria and Spain the only 2 that spring to mind. England, France, Belgium, Italy and a few more of the fancied nations have to massively improve.

International tournaments are often won by teams that don’t impress at all in the group stage. Don’t be surprised if this one is won by a team that has been completely underwhelming so far.

[ClaphamFox]

6 hours ago, Leicesterpool said:

Bore game coming I fear again, imagine going out Sunday to Slovakia. Southgate honesty may have to emigrate to Australia for his own safety, the tournament and performances in general but losing to lowly Slovakia, wow never mind beer cups being lobbed out at him could end up being tomato's at Stansted.  

We’re not going to lose on Sunday.

Edited 28 June by ClaphamFox

[Plastik Man]

6 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

So the only balanced midfield we have played is with Mainoo, Rice and Bellingham and everyone wants to ditch Mainoo and try something else?  Mental.

Yep, Mainoo surely has to start after his cameo. He looked like he could domposed and could move the ball forward.

 

For me there's a question mark over Rice. I thought he was our defensive midfielder but in the game now they need to be able to progress the ball.  I didn't watch the Premier League last season but apparently he failed in that position for Arsenal and was shifted to an 8, playing box to box. If he's going to do that for England, I'd prefer Bellingham in that position, shifting Foden to 10 where he's most effective.

 

Whilst Bellingham has had a great season at 10 for Real, he'll play deeper next season. He's more of a goal-scoring 10 than creative, getting into the box onto balls.   He's clearly an all-round midfielder, most effective all over midfield not stuck up at 10.

 

With Foden at 10, you can then play a more effective wide man on the left.

 

Then we just need to find a left back!

[Naat]

20 hours ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

After the first 7 or 8 games being absolute belters the general quality in the tournament has gone to the absolute dogs. A lot of that is down to the format which absolutely encourages negative football as so many teams progress. Only 1 or 2 teams have actually looked good, Austria and Spain the only 2 that spring to mind. England, France, Belgium, Italy and a few more of the fancied nations have to massively improve.

Romania, Ukraina, Slovakia were good , at least they gave their best with upmost and I thank you them  , they deserve regards.

[davieG]

Football World ZM  · 

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|| How much are managers getting paid in international football?

|By David Skilling|

Here is a comprehensive list of the wages for every Euro 2024 manager, based on the available data:

1. Gareth Southgate (England) - £4.9 million

2. Julian Nagelsmann (Germany) - £4 million

3. Roberto Martinez (Portugal) - £3.4 million

4. Didier Deschamps (France) - £3.2 million

5. Ronald Koeman (Netherlands) - £2.5 million

6. Luciano Spalletti (Italy) - £2.5 million

7. Vincenzo Montella (Turkey) - £1.5 million

8. Murat Yakin (Switzerland) - £1.4 million

9. Ralf Rangnick (Austria) - £1.3 million

10. Domenico Tedesco (Belgium) - £1.3 million

11. Zlatko Dalic (Croatia) - £1.3 million

12. Dragan Stojkovic (Serbia) - £1.2 million

13. Luis de la Fuente (Spain) - £1 million

14. Serhiy Rebrov (Ukraine) - £1 million

15. Kasper Hjulmand (Denmark) - £970,000

16. Sylvinho (Albania) - £632,000

17. Michal Probierz (Poland) - £472,000

18. Steve Clarke (Scotland) - £464,000

19. Francesco Calzona (Slovakia) - £455,000

18. Steve Clarke (Scotland) - £484,000

19. Francesco Calzona (Slovakia) - £455,000

20. Marco Rossi (Hungary) - £253,000

21. Matjaz Kek (Slovenia) - £253,000

22. Ivan Hasek (Czech Republic) - £210,000

23. Edward Iordanescu (Romania) - £202,000

24. Willy Sagnol (Georgia) - £168,000

The EURO's isn't the only competition underway at the moment, how does the Copa America compare?

Copa America 2024 Managers' Wages:

1. Marcelo Bielsa (Uruguay) - $4 million

2. Dorival Junior (Brazil) - $4 million

3. Ricardo Gareca (Chile) - $3.7 million

4. Daniel Garnero (Paraguay) - $3 million

5. Fernando Batista (Venezuela) - $3 million

6. Lionel Scaloni (Argentina) - $2.6 million

7. Gregg Berhalter (USA) - $2.2 million

As you can see, managers of national teams can earn good salaries, however, the scale from top to bottom is quite significant. It's not a bad living for a role that is far less intense than daily management of a club, however, if they underperform, they get a whole country on their back, so there's that to deal with.

Note: these are the salaries they get in total for the whole year

[foxes_rule1978]

37 minutes ago, davieG said:

Football World ZM  · 

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|| How much are managers getting paid in international football?

|By David Skilling|

Here is a comprehensive list of the wages for every Euro 2024 manager, based on the available data:

1. Gareth Southgate (England) - £4.9 million

2. Julian Nagelsmann (Germany) - £4 million

3. Roberto Martinez (Portugal) - £3.4 million

4. Didier Deschamps (France) - £3.2 million

5. Ronald Koeman (Netherlands) - £2.5 million

6. Luciano Spalletti (Italy) - £2.5 million

7. Vincenzo Montella (Turkey) - £1.5 million

8. Murat Yakin (Switzerland) - £1.4 million

9. Ralf Rangnick (Austria) - £1.3 million

10. Domenico Tedesco (Belgium) - £1.3 million

11. Zlatko Dalic (Croatia) - £1.3 million

12. Dragan Stojkovic (Serbia) - £1.2 million

13. Luis de la Fuente (Spain) - £1 million

14. Serhiy Rebrov (Ukraine) - £1 million

15. Kasper Hjulmand (Denmark) - £970,000

16. Sylvinho (Albania) - £632,000

17. Michal Probierz (Poland) - £472,000

18. Steve Clarke (Scotland) - £464,000

19. Francesco Calzona (Slovakia) - £455,000

18. Steve Clarke (Scotland) - £484,000

19. Francesco Calzona (Slovakia) - £455,000

20. Marco Rossi (Hungary) - £253,000

21. Matjaz Kek (Slovenia) - £253,000

22. Ivan Hasek (Czech Republic) - £210,000

23. Edward Iordanescu (Romania) - £202,000

24. Willy Sagnol (Georgia) - £168,000

The EURO's isn't the only competition underway at the moment, how does the Copa America compare?

Copa America 2024 Managers' Wages:

1. Marcelo Bielsa (Uruguay) - $4 million

2. Dorival Junior (Brazil) - $4 million

3. Ricardo Gareca (Chile) - $3.7 million

4. Daniel Garnero (Paraguay) - $3 million

5. Fernando Batista (Venezuela) - $3 million

6. Lionel Scaloni (Argentina) - $2.6 million

7. Gregg Berhalter (USA) - $2.2 million

As you can see, managers of national teams can earn good salaries, however, the scale from top to bottom is quite significant. It's not a bad living for a role that is far less intense than daily management of a club, however, if they underperform, they get a whole country on their back, so there's that to deal with.

Note: these are the salaries they get in total for the whole year

Why are we paying southgate 4.9m! Absolutely insane 

[Naat]

Ralf Rangnick is  great manager. 

Willy Sagnol has also done big job.  

[Wymsey]

41 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said:

Why are we paying southgate 4.9m! Absolutely insane 

Bet he has put most of it in savings and shops at Aldi..

[bovril]

15 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

We’re not going to lose on Sunday.

[Super_horns]

Better hope Luke Shaw is fit then ?

https://x.com/SkySportsNews/status/1806796681297400167

[Daggers]

[rugbyblue]

On 27/06/2024 at 22:42, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

After the first 7 or 8 games being absolute belters the general quality in the tournament has gone to the absolute dogs. A lot of that is down to the format which absolutely encourages negative football as so many teams progress. Only 1 or 2 teams have actually looked good, Austria and Spain the only 2 that spring to mind. England, France, Belgium, Italy and a few more of the fancied nations have to massively improve.

Agreed.  3 qualifying from some groups is a joke.  

But it's a money making exercise by uefa.  More games more money.  

I always used to say it was probably tougher to win the euros than the world cup in the days of 8 and 16 teams as every team would be quality.  The more teams there are the more meaningless games there are and it's plausible you could get an "easy ride" right through to the semis.  

 

But most importantly for the tournament is only 2 teams from each group should qualify.  Either go back to 16 teams or increase to 32.  I'd prefer 16 but it won't happen 

[Parafox]

GS is going to claim that he chose the team, the formation and the tactics to be sure England got through the group stage as the top team.

 

I actually think that's his approach.

 

Qualify for the knockouts in first place, albeit with boring and lacklustre, but safe performances.

 

I expect that now, in the next phase we'll see a different style of play. More attacking, front footed and quicker with a higher press.

 

I'm no fan of GS but I do feel, having watched previous internationals, that is how he manages the team's progression.

 

I think Sunday's game will be quite different to the last 3 group games.

 

I hope... 

[Stephen Hughes]

4 hours ago, Parafox said:

GS is going to claim that he chose the team, the formation and the tactics to be sure England got through the group stage as the top team.

 

I actually think that's his approach.

 

Qualify for the knockouts in first place, albeit with boring and lacklustre, but safe performances.

 

I expect that now, in the next phase we'll see a different style of play. More attacking, front footed and quicker with a higher press.

 

I'm no fan of GS but I do feel, having watched previous internationals, that is how he manages the team's progression.

 

I think Sunday's game will be quite different to the last 3 group games.

 

I hope... 

it’s the hope that kills us

[ClaphamFox]

4 hours ago, Parafox said:

GS is going to claim that he chose the team, the formation and the tactics to be sure England got through the group stage as the top team.

 

I actually think that's his approach.

 

Qualify for the knockouts in first place, albeit with boring and lacklustre, but safe performances.

 

I expect that now, in the next phase we'll see a different style of play. More attacking, front footed and quicker with a higher press.

 

I'm no fan of GS but I do feel, having watched previous internationals, that is how he manages the team's progression.

 

I think Sunday's game will be quite different to the last 3 group games.

 

I hope... 

Despite it being a knock-out game, I think Slovakia will defend deep and try to frustrate us, so the challenge won’t be much different to the one we faced in the group stage. Hopefully Southgate has a better solution up his sleeve.