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Panathinaikos striker Fotis Ioannidis

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On 29/06/2024 at 15:23, Lambert09 said:

surely it all depends on the length of deal. 

 

5 years and and 25m is just 5 in the books.

 

Not quite as simple for us as wages are more our issue but we surely have to roll the dice somewhere if we want a chance of surviving. 


I think we need to be careful with this thinking because the previous 2 seasons financial positions still factor in how much of a loss can be allowed across this period.

 

Our accounts showed a £90 million loss for 22/23 - and whilst that figure will contain some “allowable losses” that will reduce the total for PSR purposes - that seasons figure will still hold a baring on what we can do in this period , especially as our allowable losses over the 3yrs is ‘only’ £87 million, not £105 million due to the season in the Championship.

 

Obviously we don’t know what the position is for 23/24 - we can assume the KDH sale brought us within PSR limits - but if that’s still a loss, this still plays into requirements going forward.


That means even ‘just’ £5 million could be a significant portion of any headroom we might have for transfer fees this term. 

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3 hours ago, LCCFox96 said:

 

Choosing to start July 1st by catching up on the most exciting transfer rumour on the forum now that we're inside a new accounting year. False hope? Most probably lol

 

Have to say I agree with these points. My girlfriend is Greek and her family live in Athens and are big Panathinaikos fans so I have been fortunate enough to see Ioannidis play live a couple of times and watched him many times on TV. As a side note, if you ever get the chance to go to a Pao home game, do it. The atmosphere is unreal.

 

Ioannidis an exciting player and would be a coup if we could get him. He's fast, powerful, and skilful, and has averaged a goal contribution roughly once every three games during his time at Pao. At 24 years old, he's still a young man, but he did really step it up last season for Pao and greatly increased his output across the domestic season. He also scored well and assisted well in the Champions League qualifiers and Europa League games against strong opposition. Like you guys say, he's key to how Pao build attacks, and is one of the men they look to to bring the other attacking players into the game in the final third. They struggle in that regard without him. His positional awareness and use of space to do this is very good - he often seems to have an extra half yard of space when receiving the ball and is tidy enough to wriggle out of smaller spaces as well.

 

He's also deceptively quick and more than decent progressively carrying the ball. At 6ft1, great on the ball, strong with his back to goal, quick, and creative, he's an imposing presence and a handful - he's got a bit of everything in that regard. Pao are obviously one of the better sides in Greece so most commonly find themselves facing lower blocks as Leicester did last season. However, I do think he could go both ways dropping deep and going in behind, which only really Vardy has excelled at at Premier League level from our current group. To that extent, I think he'd have been perfect for Enzo ball but would also offer something in the style Cooper is more likely to have to deploy this season.

 

He's a very popular player in Greece and is well regarded by football fans as a good character too.

My concerns with this transfer - outside of the price tag which I think we'd struggle to meet, and competition from other attractive clubs in Europe, is two-fold:

1) Ioannidis is definitely better playing with support around him up top. This plays to his biggest strengths at bringing others into play and linking up attacks. He could very much fit the longstanding Leicester City bracket of a striker who's better with a strike partner but we play up top on his own and he gets isolated and struggles. He has most regularly been deployed in the middle of a front 3 for Pao (often featuring Sporar and Palacios or Kotsiras). That could work nicely with Mavididi and Fatawu playing off him and running beyond him. Other times it's a front 2, most often when Pao play the other big 4 teams in Greece as they go a little more conservative. But he's never left on his own up top, so our old PL system with a lone striker would be risky. Depends how Cooper sets up really.
 

2) Bar last season where his goal scoring output improved massively, to Kingfox's point, I'd have big concerns about him finishing enough of the chances he gets in the Premier League at first. Can we afford that from an expensive signing this year? Maybe, maybe not. Hopefully he had his big breakthrough last year in terms of numbers and kicks on.

 

I'd love him to come here, but can see him ending up in Italy personally.

 

Great post mate, thanks for the insight 👍🏻
 

When analysing him a few months ago, I instantly thought he’d be absolutely perfect for a Maresca based system. Now Cooper’s in charge though, it will be interesting to see what kind of striker he wants, just going off his time at Forest, he very much deployed a physical striker throughout his time there, that’s why despite Maresca leaving, Ioannidis is still very much top of my wanted list for a striker. 
 

As you say, it’s that ability of giving you both sides of the game that excites me. Whether possession based or more of a direct counter attacking style, I feel he has the attributes to do both. As you pointed out with his pace and ball carrying ability, when he goes on those ball carrying busting runs, he can be an absolute beast. 
 

The point you make regarding Mavididi and Fatawu working off him, is something I instantly thought about when going through his dialogue clips. That ability to drop deep, with wingers and potentially a number 8/10 running in behind him, is a very exciting prospect. 
 

While finally regarding his finishing I very much agree, he produced the 2nd most shots in Greece last season, at a success percentage of 46%. It’s not a glaring weakness by any means, but at times I just feel like he could be smarter with his shot choices. 

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I see it tbf. I’m sure today has sent panic around the club and we realise that we need to just do the business if we are serious about fighting to stay up. 

 

If we got zaha and this guy our chances of staying up pretty much double 

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11 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

I see it tbf. I’m sure today has sent panic around the club and we realise that we need to just do the business if we are serious about fighting to stay up. 

 

If we got zaha and this guy our chances of staying up pretty much double 

Major alarm bells.. if we get this guy and someone who can get him the ball from midfield we may just have a chance at 17th

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1 minute ago, Mike1983 said:

He’d be a solid signing, but I doubt we can afford him. Plus, with Panathinaikos guaranteed European football every season, he’d need a serious incentive to consider joining a sinking ship.

he’d tripple his wages and be playing on the biggest platform in the world. 
 

I don’t think he proves anything staying where he is 

 

Lets be honest, most players see us as an easy stepping stone to chelsea 

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1 minute ago, Mike1983 said:

He’d be a solid signing, but I doubt we can afford him. Plus, with Panathinaikos guaranteed European football every season, he’d need a serious incentive to consider joining a sinking ship.

Dont think thats the issue tbf he woild join us in a heartbeat for the wages alone. Its that if sporting match our bid he will likely go there

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9 minutes ago, FoxTimmy2 said:

Seems okay, it's a poor league. A lot of his goals are from pens. 

He looks like he has the ingredients for a very good prem striker tbf great feet, can dribble, fast and strong

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