Popular Post ClaphamFox Posted 19 July Popular Post Share Posted 19 July 4 hours ago, shen said: I don't see us actually in for O'Riley. We will be careful with our spending as we will likely get relegated this season - which O'Riley wouldn't want to stick around for, surely. I suspect we'll do a lot of loan business to avoid being lumbered with expensive contracts and even more trouble with PSR whether PL or EFL - and spending big on O'Riley is the opposite of a prudent approach. I doubt the club sees it this way at all. The owners have no intention of getting relegated and are trying to build a squad to survive, which won’t happen if we refuse to spend. Hence we were willing to pay up to £30m for Soule and are very likely willing to pay a similar amount for O’Riley. Of course that doesn’t guarantee we’ll get these players, but I think our intention for this season is clear enough. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 19 July Share Posted 19 July We're probably just a smokescreen to help Celtic bump up the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 19 July Share Posted 19 July (edited) 1 hour ago, Grebfromgrebland said: We're probably just a smokescreen to help Celtic bump up the price. I’m not so sure. We’ve been linked with O’Riley in previous transfer windows and he fits the bill in terms of what we need. I suspect our interest is genuine. Edited 19 July by ClaphamFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 19 July Share Posted 19 July 7 hours ago, shen said: I don't see us actually in for O'Riley. We will be careful with our spending as we will likely get relegated this season - which O'Riley wouldn't want to stick around for, surely. I suspect we'll do a lot of loan business to avoid being lumbered with expensive contracts and even more trouble with PSR whether PL or EFL - and spending big on O'Riley is the opposite of a prudent approach. Unless Glover thinks Soulé is the next Ronaldo, I doubt we're offering 30m for an attacking midfielder / winger if we don't also have the money to pay that for two or three priority positions. I think O'Riley will go to a bigger club but I don't think money will be the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 19 July Share Posted 19 July 51 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: I’m not so sure. We’ve been linked with O’Riley in previous transfer windows and he fits the bill in terms of what we need. I suspect our interest is genuine. Yeah I'm just being facetious. In reality though I can't see why anyone would come to us over another premier league club right now. We're massive favourites for relegation with the The only thing in our favour is that other clubs might get hit with psr points deductions during the season too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The boy Linacre Posted 19 July Share Posted 19 July 4 hours ago, ClaphamFox said: I doubt the club sees it this way at all. The owners have no intention of getting relegated and are trying to build a squad to survive, which won’t happen if we refuse to spend. Hence we were willing to pay up to £30m for Soule and are very likely willing to pay a similar amount for O’Riley. Of course that doesn’t guarantee we’ll get these players, but I think our intention for this season is clear enough. yep, no doubt about it, If the Soule chase is really true (though he is untested in the Prem, stats are good, BUT.....a bit of a Soumare risk here) they are prepared to spend to finish at least 17th, no doubt about it, better to be in "the club" than out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 19 July Share Posted 19 July (edited) 21 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said: Yeah I'm just being facetious. In reality though I can't see why anyone would come to us over another premier league club right now. We're massive favourites for relegation with the The only thing in our favour is that other clubs might get hit with psr points deductions during the season too. They won’t have that kind of attitude. And you say this, but none of the teams hit with PRS breaches have been relegated? Not even Forest….. so, the argument at this time isn’t valid. People are worried of massive points deductions, but that simply won’t be the case….. we will likely get a deduction, but it won’t supersede anything we’ve already seen. Also, we can still pay and will still pay big wages, regardless of how we moan as a fan base, because the club still want to, and will try to compete, they’re not going to just stop. Players will still come to us, based on the fast we bolster careers, even in our two bad seasons we’ve sold a player to spurs, and then a player to Chelsea….. so it’s still evident we can be a good stepping stone for some players careers. Despite the doom and gloom, there’s a lot going for the club, and that still resonated within the wider football community. Edited 19 July by Pliskin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen Posted 19 July Share Posted 19 July 4 hours ago, gurru991 said: You Gotta Believe !!! It's too early to say until we hear our deduction but we have the talent to stay up. MOR would be the game changer in the battle !! It's not about belief, it's about pragmatism and responsible spending. We've already been saddled with this yet unknown penalty because of careless spending and gross mismanagement. I should hope they've learnt their lesson. 1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said: I doubt the club sees it this way at all. The owners have no intention of getting relegated and are trying to build a squad to survive, which won’t happen if we refuse to spend. Hence we were willing to pay up to £30m for Soule and are very likely willing to pay a similar amount for O’Riley. Of course that doesn’t guarantee we’ll get these players, but I think our intention for this season is clear enough. If we start on -6/-12 points, we will have a serious handicap and the probability is that we won't make it. They surely have to take this into account and plan accordingly. You could very well argue that it's more prudent to be sensible this year where the odds are stacked against us than it is to take a massive gamble that could easily backfire and set us back years or more... It doesn't mean we shouldn't spend, but the wise money is buying players that will want to be here regardless of which league we're in (i.e. young players with potential at like £5-15m like Hermansen, Okoli, Mavididi, Fatawu etc) and loaning in players that can give us the necessary quality and depth to hopefully survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 19 July Share Posted 19 July 6 minutes ago, shen said: It's not about belief, it's about pragmatism and responsible spending. We've already been saddled with this yet unknown penalty because of careless spending and gross mismanagement. I should hope they've learnt their lesson. If we start on -6/-12 points, we will have a serious handicap and the probability is that we won't make it. They surely have to take this into account and plan accordingly. You could very well argue that it's more prudent to be sensible this year where the odds are stacked against us than it is to take a massive gamble that could easily backfire and set us back years or more... It doesn't mean we shouldn't spend, but the wise money is buying players that will want to be here regardless of which league we're in (i.e. young players with potential at like £5-15m like Hermansen, Okoli, Mavididi, Fatawu etc) and loaning in players that can give us the necessary quality and depth to hopefully survive. There's a big difference between -6 points and -12 points. The former would present a challenge, but one we could overcome; the latter I agree would make survival extremely difficult. But I'm expecting it to be much closer to -6 than -12, and I think the club is too. If we only targeted players who would want to stay if we got relegated, we'd be narrowing our choices down considerably. We also need to consider high quality players who would boost our chances of staying up, but would also have a high resale value if we went down. I'd put Soule and O'Riley into that category. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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foxgas Posted 19 July Share Posted 19 July 1 hour ago, Pliskin said: They won’t have that kind of attitude. And you say this, but none of the teams hit with PRS breaches have been relegated? Not even Forest….. so, the argument at this time isn’t valid. People are worried of massive points deductions, but that simply won’t be the case….. we will likely get a deduction, but it won’t supersede anything we’ve already seen. Also, we can still pay and will still pay big wages, regardless of how we moan as a fan base, because the club still want to, and will try to compete, they’re not going to just stop. Players will still come to us, based on the fast we bolster careers, even in our two bad seasons we’ve sold a player to spurs, and then a player to Chelsea….. so it’s still evident we can be a good stepping stone for some players careers. Despite the doom and gloom, there’s a lot going for the club, and that still resonated within the wider football community. The main reason we won't get a massive points deduction is that if they set the bar higher they would have to hammer Man City and possibly Chelsea when their time eventually comes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messerschmitt Posted 19 July Share Posted 19 July 59 minutes ago, foxgas said: The main reason we won't get a massive points deduction is that if they set the bar higher they would have to hammer Man City and possibly Chelsea when their time eventually comes. The Premer League could give us a large points deduction and not give a points deduction to Man City or Chelsea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox85 Posted 21 July Share Posted 21 July Atalanta have placed bid in for O'Riiley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 21 July Share Posted 21 July 1 hour ago, Fox85 said: Atalanta have placed bid in for O'Riiley I bet the bid is laughable. Probably half of what Celtic want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezFox Posted 21 July Share Posted 21 July We are not really linked with him at all. I would imagine the fee will be lower than we think and it will not be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROB-THE-BLUE Posted 21 July Share Posted 21 July On 19/07/2024 at 12:12, messerschmitt said: The Premer League could give us a large points deduction and not give a points deduction to Man City or Chelsea. Everyone c**t and his dog knows that's exactly what will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 23 July Share Posted 23 July If we got another striker in, Weghorst for example, then we could offer Cannon on Loan and say £20m for MOR to Celtic. Celtic could do with another centre forward, and he's an irish international. He'd bag for fun for a season in Scotland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 23 July Share Posted 23 July Just now, FoxinNotts said: If we got another striker in, Weghorst for example, then we could offer Cannon on Loan and say £20m for MOR to Celtic. Celtic could do with another centre forward, and he's an irish international. He'd bag for fun for a season in Scotland. it’s a good shout but would you trust a young asset with Brendan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 23 July Share Posted 23 July Just now, Lambert09 said: it’s a good shout but would you trust a young asset with Brendan? True. Still think he'd score a hat full. Then he could return next season, the heir to Vardy's throne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comeonyoufoxes Posted 26 July Share Posted 26 July reposted this last night. 2k followers, seems to know his stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 26 July Share Posted 26 July Just now, comeonyoufoxes said: reposted this last night. 2k followers, seems to know his stuff I dont doubt we want him, he seems to be someone we've watched for a while which is usually how you know interest is genuine. But he's probably outgrown us, especially given our relegation. I'd be surprised if he ends up here personally. I think we'd have moved straight away after KDH had gone if this was the case and Percy would have already been reporting him as our top target. I'd like to be wrong, his signing would give me a lot more confidence for this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezFox Posted 26 July Share Posted 26 July 7 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I dont doubt we want him, he seems to be someone we've watched for a while which is usually how you know interest is genuine. But he's probably outgrown us, especially given our relegation. I'd be surprised if he ends up here personally. I think we'd have moved straight away after KDH had gone if this was the case and Percy would have already been reporting him as our top target. I'd like to be wrong, his signing would give me a lot more confidence for this season. Agree with this, he won’t be coming here. Barely even been linked to be fair. Just people clutching at straws and hoping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K789 Posted 26 July Share Posted 26 July Saimts have 14 mill bid rejected 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 26 July Share Posted 26 July offer them £20m (or anything up to top end of Soule monies) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groby_Blue Posted 26 July Share Posted 26 July I'd be surprised if Rodgers is willing to sell us one of his best players. He seems like a petty little runt when he wants to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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