EURO 2024 FINAL THREAD: SPAIN vs ENGLAND Sunday, July 14th, 8:00PM

[Trumpet]

Has an England manager ever had such a talented squad?

[Lionator]

I still for the life of me don’t understand why we stepped off after the goal

[Livid]

What do we do? It’s become obvious Southgate can’t seem to get the best out of what’s at his disposal but somehow we keep doing well at tournaments but failing to get over the line. Do we go with him again ? 
 

Personally I’ve always thought he was a FA yes man and tactically he’s as dull as his personality but I don’t know who we look to for us to take that final step. 

[Lionator]

Just now, Trumpet said:

Has an England manager ever had such a talented squad?

82, 86 and 90 squads were packed, as were the Sven era, in particular 2004&06.

[Sunbury Fox]

Just now, Lionator said:

I still for the life of me don’t understand why we stepped off after the goal

I do. Southgate. 

[urban.spaceman]

 

League Cup runner up.

Third in a two horse race.

Second in a one horse race.

Champions League runner up.

League Cup runner up.

Euro 2020 runner up.

German Super Cup runner up.

Bundesliga runner up - at a club who had won 12 Bundesligas in a row!!!

Euro 2024 runner up.

 

The. Man. Is. Cursed.

 

 

[Muzzy_no7]

2 minutes ago, Trumpet said:

Has an England manager ever had such a talented squad?

No. 
 

2021-2024 have been such a failure. 

[Muzzy_no7]

2 minutes ago, Lionator said:

I still for the life of me don’t understand why we stepped off after the goal

Southgate and his plonkers 

[foxes_rule1978]

People are crediting Southgate for getting us to finals and having a chance, we should be bloody winning. Imagine if Man City failed all the time a lost out on trophies, they would sack the manager 

[CrispinLA in Texas]

Just now, urban.spaceman said:

 

League Cup runner up.

Third in a two horse race.

Second in a one horse race.

Champions League runner up.

League Cup runner up.

Euro 2020 runner up.

German Super Cup runner up.

Bundesliga runner up - at a club who had won 12 Bundesligas in a row!!!

Euro 2024 runner up.

 

The. Man. Is. Cursed.

 

 

But he did win the Audi cup with Spurs

[DJ Barry Hammond]

2 minutes ago, Lionator said:

82, 86 and 90 squads were packed, as were the Sven era, in particular 2004&06.

Sven didn’t really have anyone for the left hand side - and of course we had to pay 4-4-2! 

[Lionator]

1 minute ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

League Cup runner up.

Third in a two horse race.

Second in a one horse race.

Champions League runner up.

League Cup runner up.

Euro 2020 runner up.

German Super Cup runner up.

Bundesliga runner up - at a club who had won 12 Bundesligas in a row!!!

Euro 2024 runner up.

 

The. Man. Is. Cursed.

 

 

He doesn’t have that ruthlessness that some of best athletes have. Compare his mentality to someone like Ben Stokes. 

[foxes_rule1978]

Because yes England are Man City in terms of the quality on the team sheet 

[CosbehFox]

1 minute ago, Sly said:

Uruguay - Never beaten them in a competitive game 

 

France - Nope, unless you count La Tournoi

 

Italy - Nope, unless you count La Tournoi

 

Brazil - Nope, we’ve only beaten them 4 times as well! 

 

Germany - Nope.

 

Argentina - Nope. 

 

Spain - Once, 8th May 1968! 
 

Crazy that! 

Not particularly sure the stat that tells you anything really though.
 

Knockout games in the Euros were very few until 1996.

 

World Cup format only really opened up post 1990 as well. 
 

We’ve beat a few of those in group stages when they were far more competitive than now. Uruguay we’ve played three times competitively - 1954, 1966, and 2012. Only really the latter probably says where we are  

[foxfanazer]

Just now, urban.spaceman said:

 

League Cup runner up.

Third in a two horse race.

Second in a one horse race.

Champions League runner up.

League Cup runner up.

Euro 2020 runner up.

German Super Cup runner up.

Bundesliga runner up - at a club who had won 12 Bundesligas in a row!!!

Euro 2024 runner up.

 

The. Man. Is. Cursed.

 

 

I will never again even entertain the argument that this guy is world class. He's a master of failure and was a detriment to the team. 

 

On the other hand, he's doesn't pick himself every game so it's on the other failure 

[foxfanazer]

1 minute ago, Lionator said:

He doesn’t have that ruthlessness that some of best athletes have. Compare his mentality to someone like Jamie Vardy

Fixed

[ramboacdc]

4 draws in 90 minutes in 6 games got us to the final. Spain had 1 game go to Extra Time and even then were dangerous. 

 

 

Southgate saying having 1 less day to prep is just an awful excuse. 

 

We were good for probably 5 minutes of the whole tournament and were reliant on screamers. 

[Tommy Fresh]

Just now, DJ Barry Hammond said:

Sven didn’t really have anyone for the left hand side - and of course we had to pay 4-4-2! 

Sven had numerous tournaments with the best selection of defenders in my lifetime easily. Not justifying the shite Southgate has had us playing though

[Lionator]

2 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

Sven didn’t really have anyone for the left hand side - and of course we had to pay 4-4-2! 

Talent alone though? Those squads were class and Joe Cole was more than adequate in that position

[Fox92]

3 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

League Cup runner up.

Third in a two horse race.

Second in a one horse race.

Champions League runner up.

League Cup runner up.

Euro 2020 runner up.

German Super Cup runner up.

Bundesliga runner up - at a club who had won 12 Bundesligas in a row!!!

Euro 2024 runner up.

 

The. Man. Is. Cursed.

 

 

Tbf he was to loyal to a team that wins fvck all. Should have left years ago to go and win trophies, like Rooney did Everton.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Southgate’s a decent bloke, he looked genuinely distraught at the end and I feel sorry for him. He’s made us a better tournament team, a more cohesive unit, more resilient and focussed at penalties. But he should step aside now, the Euros in 28 is time for us to get in the habit of playing the brand of football our players can play. Kane should step aside too. 

[DJ Barry Hammond]

10 minutes ago, MattFox said:

That was the sickening one

 

Home tournament everything in our favour and we lost to a bunch of pensioners 

You say that (about the Italy game) but I was furious with the Croatia game because Southgate just sat there and watched them run allover us for 25 minutes!

[Bert]

1 minute ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

Southgate’s a decent bloke, he looked genuinely distraught at the end and I feel sorry for him. He’s made us a better tournament team, a more cohesive unit, more resilient and focussed at penalties. But he should step aside now, the Euros in 28 is time for us to get in the habit of playing the brand of football our players can play. Kane should step aside too. 

Theres no way Kane will be leading the line for us in 4 years. 

[MattFox]

1 minute ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

You say that (about the Italy game) but I was furious with the Croatia game because Southgate just sat there and watched them run allover us for 25 minutes!

That Croatia side was stacked tbf and we were pretty average 

 

 

[Fox92]

8 minutes ago, Trumpet said:

Has an England manager ever had such a talented squad?

Sorry but Cole, Terry, Campbell, Gerrard, Lampard, Owen, Rooney are better than the players we have now.