Cold Hard Truth

[MattFox]

We were awful all tournament relied on individual moments and had the easiest draw going 

[adejo92]

Definitely needed it's own thread this.

[westernpark]

It’s cold, it’s hard, it’s the truth.

[foxfanazer]

Southgate needs to go. Kane needs phasing out. Bellingham needs to stop thinking he actually is Zidane. Foden needs to pretend Pep's managing him for England games. Fans need to stop overhyping the likes of Rice etc. It's coming home posts should be insta bans

 

Other than that well done boys

[Sir Shep]

It’s Southgate and his captain Kane, both useless and lucky in the same breath! 

[tom27111]

Would love to see anyone defend Southgate now.

 

Always had incredibly easy draws and still not achieved anything.

 

Every time we meet a decent team, we lose.

 

During his tenure, we beat Germany at home in the delayed Euros, that's it.

[copunk]

Had the easiest of runs through every tournament he's managed to get to finals, semis etc, clueless 

[Lionator]

Cold hard truth is also running in the 3.45 at Doncaster tomorrow 

[FoxyPV]

The cold hard truth is that England have been remarkably consistent over the last 6 years and have reached a level of success not known for decades.

 

I'd love Ireland to have been this shite to be honest.

 

However, Southgate's in game management is what has cost England silverware.

[Fox92]

Lineker, Ferdinand, Richards all right on BBC in that Southgate has always been far too defensive. He always changes once we’re 1 down. He has to go, Southgate. 

[Matt]

It was an awful tournament barr the first week, Spain and I think special credits to Georgia, Albania and Turkey.

 

But, that's where modern football is at.

 

Edited 14 July by Matt

[MattFox]

8 minutes ago, copunk said:

Had the easiest of runs through every tournament he's managed to get to finals, semis etc, clueless 

Sven had to play Brazil and a world class Portugal side twice

 

Hoddle Argentina

 

Southgate has never had anything as tough as that early doors

[atomicfox]

Deep down we all know the England team managed by Nigel Pearson would have won that.

[adam]

Southgate has cost us 2 euros now. Blokes so far out of his depth it's laughable.

[Sir Shep]

Fvck me, England are spurs, a trophy eons ago, both play in white, kin el shoot me now, I’m supporting Scotland at least they play in blue. 

[foxfanazer]

5 minutes ago, Matt said:

It was an awful tournament barr the first week, Spain and I think special credits to Georgia, Albania and Turkey.

 

But, that's where modern football is at.

 

Football is just a bit shit now isn't it. Most teams playing to not lose rather than having a go

[SemperEadem]

8 minutes ago, Matt said:

It was an awful tournament barr the first week, Spain and I think special credits to Georgia, Albania and Turkey.

 

But, that's where modern football is at.

 

This

[Fox92]

2 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Football is just a bit shit now isn't it. Most teams playing to not lose rather than having a go

Unfortunately if you want it any other way you just get labelled as a fan of “hoof” football now.

[Super_horns]

The most disappointing thing tonight was we let the momentum we had go once we scored .

 

Almost waiting for Spain to score then attack once more 

[foxfanazer]

4 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Unfortunately if you want it any other way you just get labelled as a fan of “hoof” football now.

Don't get me wrong I love passing football and I don't find the likes of Man City boring like most do but you've got to have more strings to your bow. So many managers obsess over perfecting their plan A philosophy that they don't even entertain having a plan b.

 

Give me 15/16 Leicester over this current trend of football any day 

Edited 14 July by foxfanazer

[Kp1984]

We was shit bar the Netherlands game. 

[foxfanazer]

Just now, Kp1984 said:

We was shit bar the Netherlands game. 

Plain and simple

[Izzy]

I’ve lived through about six ‘golden generations’ and none of them have won anything.

 

I dunno if it’s unrealistic expectations or if we’re just not as good as we think we are.

Serial international losers.

[EastAnglianFox]

Bit Bizarre here tbf, I’ve much stated even though I’m Scottish I’d have very much liked England to win. 
 

Just seems to be a feeling of “meh” here out and about in Norwich right now, groans at full time but very much back to normal within 20 minutes. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

[Corky]

England have been underwhelming throughout. Quite remarkable how much better the subs have been than the starters. I said in the match thread that in 2021 we played some good football, beat good sides and created much more and would have been worthy winners. This one, despite reaching the final, hasn't grabbed in the same way.