Southgate steps down as England manager

[trabuch]

I like him now he's gone.

[foxes_rule1978]

The team have outgrown him; at the time he was the right appointment though and brought some respect back to the England team. 

Edited 16 July by foxes_rule1978

[Flynny]

 

Right call, and I’m glad he made it as it’s easier to be generous about him than if he was clinging on. He has been great for England overall, but clearly been at a point where his tactical limitations held us back for last couple of years.

 

Simultaneously pleased and fearful  though - Lampard and Gerrard being talked about as possibles? Give me strength. Not a given that his replacement will actually be better. They absolutely must get someone who can coach attacking patterns of play.

 

I hope the FA retain Gareth as a consultant across age groups (including senior team), working with the managers to create positive environments, something he is clearly very talented at. 

[BenTheFox]

Deserves a lot of credit, when he took over we'd just had the Iceland debacle as well as the embarrassment with Allardyce. There was a a feeling of pure apathy in the nation towards the national football team and he made us interested again and created the first ever likeable England squads in my lifetime. He's a limited manager and it's time to move on, but I'm glad that he was able to walk away on good terms. 

[AKCJ]

Gutted he couldn't take us over the line. Great bloke that picked up England from absolutely nothing to the brink of greatness. Wish him well in whatever he does.

[AKCJ]

15 minutes ago, HybridFox said:

Good riddance 

Grow up.

[Aus Fox]

Thanks for the memories Gareth, will go down as one of the best England managers of all time, was exactly what was needed to bring the squad together and get England playing as one.

Not sure what he does next, I just don’t see him as a day to day club manager.

As for England, I how the next appointment is someone with international experience, some big shoes to fill and the pressure will be on like never before to take England to the next level. 

[ARTY_FOX]

Hallelujah, praise the Lord. About 6 years too late. 

[ramboacdc]

Man had more luck than anyone fixture wise or last minute saviours that he makes Trump seem unlucky, and that man literally dodged a bullet over the weekend.

[BenTheFox]

As much as I want England to win, I can't help but think that some people will deserve it if the next manager who is supposedly a massive upgrade comes in and completely stinks the place out. 

[BenTheFox]

2 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said:

Hallelujah, praise the Lord. About 6 years too late. 

You think he should have gone after the 2018 world cup? 

He got England to the semi-final and for the first time in years the team were some sort of cohesive plan at least. You can talk about the favourable draw but our squad in 2018 was bang average on the whole. 

[Nalis]

Was the right man for the right time. The 2018 World Cup run was arguably the biggest 'feel good' tournament for England since Euro 96.

 

As others have said the role simply outgrew him.

 

 

[Dr Marco]

Thanks you Gareth, you are certainly not a great manager tactically but a great bloke

[Deeg67]

Credit to him for gracefully exiting on a relative high rather than dragging this out. Time for a refresh.

[purpleronnie]

We'll be back blaming the next england manager soon enough.

[SpacedX]

One of my greatest lookalike moments ever! Shoreditch 2001 - 

 

[Jonezy]

Back to the shit draws for you guys again then...  

[KFS]

Enough to get you excited for the Americas World Cup and a Euros in the U.K. 

 

Big big tournaments that will hopefully attract a big manager. This appointment needs to be someone who can take Gareth’s foundations around the culture etc and apply strong tactics to a team full of world class talent.

[bovril]

I found all the Dear England / redemption for 96 / emotional BBC montage stuff quite annoying after a while and I don't think it helped the team. 

[Jon the Hat]

Thank **** for that.

[BenTheFox]

1 minute ago, Nalis said:

Was the right man for the right time. The 2018 World Cup run was arguably the biggest 'feel good' tournament for England since Euro 96.

 

As others have said the role simply outgrew him.

 

 

Halfway through his tenure, the quality of players that he had at his disposal suddenly got much better. If you look at the starting line up against Croatia in the 2018 semi-final, our midfield was Henderson, Lingard and Dele Alli. No one wins a world cup with that. 

[Happy Fox]

1 minute ago, KFS said:

Enough to get you excited for the Americas World Cup and a Euros in the U.K. 

 

Big big tournaments that will hopefully attract a big manager. This appointment needs to be someone who can take Gareth’s foundations around the culture etc and apply strong tactics to a team full of world class talent.

 

Which England players are currently World class? Maybe Bellingham has the potential to be world class at Real Madrid.

[David Hankey]

Well, it's what the masses wanted just like the changes that brought VAR about.

 

Folk should be careful what hey wish for.

[ARTY_FOX]

16 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

You think he should have gone after the 2018 world cup? 

He got England to the semi-final and for the first time in years the team were some sort of cohesive plan at least. You can talk about the favourable draw but our squad in 2018 was bang average on the whole. 

He did his job of bringing people together, the football side he's just simply not good at. 

 

Not winning tournaments is fine if we go into it trying to win games rather than going into every game trying not to lose. 

Edited 16 July by ARTY_FOX

[BenTheFox]

2 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said:

He did his job of bringing people together, the football side he's just simply not good at. 

 

Not winning tournaments is fine if we go onto it trying to win games rather than going into every game trying not to lose. 

His approach wasn't actually that negative in 2018. It might say more about how bad we'd been previously but some of the football in that tournament was best we'd played in years.