James_lcfc Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July 10 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I'm definitely being more reserved with my reaction after I wildly over reacted to Winks To be fair to a lot of posters on here - The reaction to Winks was from the perspective of being a top half PL team, which we'd sort of got used to No need to eat too much humble pie until we see how he fares this season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July (edited) 8 minutes ago, Mark said: He'll struggle next season if being asked to play the same role, either way we absolutely 100% do not need both Winks and Skipp. We do need Cover for Winks though? We don’t have anyone really Edited 17 July by moore_94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-sodapop Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July I honestly think he's probably a better player than Winks. Really depends on the price, but I'm not above him. Much better option than Moder, at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfox Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July Just looking at his time at Norwich, he is basically Harry Winks with a bit more bite. https://breakingthelines.com/player-analysis/player-analysis-oliver-skipp/ https://www.canaries.co.uk/content/a-passer-with-a-bit-of-fight-media-insight-on-oliver-skipp Quite surprised that some fans think we don’t need another deep-lying playmaker. Not every signing is going to strengthen our starting 11, there’s three back-up spots that need filling in our squad, an alternative to Winks being one of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLC86 Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July 28 minutes ago, goose2010 said: Mainoo hadnt missed a season with a serious knee injury. So the reason he should be given a chance is because he has missed a season with a knee injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StriderHiryu Posted 17 July Popular Post Share Posted 17 July 15 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I'm definitely being more reserved with my reaction after I wildly over reacted to Winks Someone in this thread, it might even have been you, said they were worried about seeing a midfield of Winks and Skipp doing nothing but pass the ball sideways to one another for 90 minutes. That fear is most definitely warranted! I can recall games where this has happened (though I'm not sure both were on the pitch at the same time). Poch was guilty of a slow buildup with his pivots, and Mourinho / Conte didn't want to play football at all! Winks showed last season that he can receive the ball on the turn, play in tight spaces, and play clever balls between the lines. I showed some of his highlights to a Spurs supporting friend who was flabbergasted, all their fans rated him but never saw him even dare to do some of the things he did last season. He was being shoe horned into being either a box-to-box 8 or destroying 6, when in reality he was more of a Spanish style 6, like Pep (in his playing days) or Busquets was. Or as Rodri so brilliantly demonstrated for Spain. From what I recall I am not sure Skipp is decent but not quite as good as that on the ball, but is a lot more robust physically, and physicality is important in the Premier League, hence why I bet Cooper was delighted to have Ndidi commit to a new contract. For me I'd say Skipp is the type of player I could see being a starter / rotation option for Fulham, Palace or Wolves, and we could definitely do with someone like that in the squad. Creativity is the issue with all our midfielders, but you can be creative in many different ways. For example, Liverpool proved for years that you can have a workman like midfield if the front 3 and fullbacks attack. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July 2 hours ago, Nolucklcfc said: Wonder if it means soumare is off I think he will definitely be gone, he only needs to be sold for £6.8m for us to not record a loss on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July 25 minutes ago, kingfox said: Just looking at his time at Norwich, he is basically Harry Winks with a bit more bite. https://breakingthelines.com/player-analysis/player-analysis-oliver-skipp/ https://www.canaries.co.uk/content/a-passer-with-a-bit-of-fight-media-insight-on-oliver-skipp Quite surprised that some fans think we don’t need another deep-lying playmaker. Not every signing is going to strengthen our starting 11, there’s three back-up spots that need filling in our squad, an alternative to Winks being one of them. Because for some reason people think that Alves, Braybrooke and Nelson are all gonna be able to play back up roles. Only one of them got a handful of games last season. I would not be surprised if all 3 of them had loan moves away this summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolucklcfc Posted 17 July Author Share Posted 17 July 22 minutes ago, Bluearmyfox28 said: I think he will definitely be gone, he only needs to be sold for £6.8m for us to not record a loss on him. If we can get a buyer, seems no one wants to pay it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July 2 minutes ago, Nolucklcfc said: If we can get a buyer, seems no one wants to pay it Truthfully, I think right now Cooper wants to have a look at everyone and has probably requested for no one to be sold until he decides who he wants. I think around 3/4 weeks into pre season we will see players being linked elsewhere if not sooner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les-tah Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July 28 minutes ago, Bluearmyfox28 said: Because for some reason people think that Alves, Braybrooke and Nelson are all gonna be able to play back up roles. Only one of them got a handful of games last season. I would not be surprised if all 3 of them had loan moves away this summer. Its better for us in the long run that they all get a full season in the championship and come back more complete players for next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoldenGod Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July Quite underwhelming I think depending on who he's supposed to replace. Can't be a KDH replacement as he's scored 1 goal in 77 appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ts_1010 Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July Those of you who are saying we don't need him because we have Soumare, shouldn't be pressing that submit button. It's a yes from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownboy93 Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July Ezequiel Fernández is The same price if not cheaper ain't he? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July 5 hours ago, Finnegan said: Ndidi and Choudhury wouldn't be the best playmakers on the pitch in a match against the Craggy Island All Priests Over 75s 5-a-side team. And we don't even know if Bouba Soumare will even get registered in the squad. If Cooper has any interest in keeping Winks in his 23/24 role, we don't have anyone that can back him up really. To be fair, Father Romeo Sensini was an absolute baller. He drinks only the finest Italian red wine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriderHiryu Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July 6 minutes ago, brownboy93 said: Ezequiel Fernández is The same price if not cheaper ain't he? That's a great point, he's got a $15M release clause and a Qatari club is willing to pay it. I have heard that tons of clubs around Europe want him though so think that could be a tough fight. He's playing in the Olympic Games for Argentina so his agent might be trying to get him in the shop window for that. He looks fantastic though, a player who will almost certainly appreciate in value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
em9999 Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July I've always rated Skipp , England international solid player .. Cant really go wrong , he can actually join a club. That wins things ... I'm sure he would jump at chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July Very meh. I'd not mind a loan but just seems like a not insignificant fee for a very ordinary player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July 5 minutes ago, em9999 said: I've always rated Skipp , England international solid player .. Cant really go wrong , he can actually join a club. That wins things ... I'm sure he would jump at chance 0 snr England caps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
em9999 Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July Ordinary is great for his role .. It's what's required do the simple things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
em9999 Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July Sorry I thought he had been capped my mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep blue Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July 5 hours ago, Parker Pen said: He would be a Sensible signing and a player that Cooper would maybe have coached during his England days? Hopefully pave the way to offload Soumaré. That's a good point. You would hope that Cooper knows exactly what type of player he wants, knows Shkipp's capabilities, and has confidence he can improve him in the direction he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sly Posted 17 July Popular Post Share Posted 17 July I’d be all over this. I rate him Highly as a player and I think he’s more of a start than people will give him credit for. He’s better than Choudhury, Ndidi and Soumare with the ball at his feet. At the moment, I could see him occupying a midfield with him and Winks alongside Ndidi. If anything, unless Choudhury improves, I don’t see him as a long term first team player. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July 1 hour ago, brownboy93 said: Ezequiel Fernández is The same price if not cheaper ain't he? But can he acclimatize to the weather? Will he like the food? Can he speak the language? Does he think all English people are twats? SKipp won't have these issues. He knows we are and has made peace with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston. Posted 17 July Share Posted 17 July 2 hours ago, Sly said: I’d be all over this. I rate him Highly as a player and I think he’s more of a start than people will give him credit for. He’s better than Choudhury, Ndidi and Soumare with the ball at his feet. At the moment, I could see him occupying a midfield with him and Winks alongside Ndidi. If anything, unless Choudhury improves, I don’t see him as a long term first team player. thats fine if you can get rid of these two but they wont flush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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