Popular Post LVFox Posted 19 August Popular Post Share Posted 19 August As much as there are so many better options for better prices, a Skipp and Winks central midfield with Wilf as backup is pretty good for a newly promoted side. Get rid of Soumare, have Hamza, Golding and Braybrooke as backup and it's not too bad. Yes I am trying to cope 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Realist Guy In The Room Posted 19 August Popular Post Share Posted 19 August Moaning. The cornerstone of modern football support. This would be a dreadful signing if we were in the top 6 pushing for Champions League, but guess what??? We aint. In our current situation, this is probably as good a signing for our midfield as we could hope for. If we land Ayew and if the Zaha mess gets sorted, we give ourselves a good chance to survive. Soule, Hlozek, the Greek guy. Absolute pie in the sky transfer attempts. Survive this year and MAYBE next year that profile of player we can target. For now, think of an over elaborate chant for Skipp that about 200 people in the stadium will sing. We are what we are. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August £25m for a Nampalys Mendy regen. Didn't realise we were so flush with cash 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edingleyfox Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August If he remains fit I predict he will do very well. However the club is probably 3 players short in attacking positions and we cannot carry on shopping at top prem prices which still seems to be happening with links to. Nelson etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August I think he's a good addition, it just doesn't stack up with everything we are hearing from the media regarding budgets and he doesn't address any of the gaping holes that we have within the squad. Also, why offer both Hamza and Ndidi new contracts recently only to then go and spend £25M on another defensive midfielder. It's just another decision to add to the pile of decisions that, on the face of it, point towards a football club incapable of joined up thinking. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August Some are so desperate for signings they're rationalising it as a good one. He's obviously not a bad player but £20m (whether it's with add ons or not, presumable we pay them if we achieve what we need) but for that money we should be buying players that obviously improve us in areas we're weak. What does a good season look like for Skip? 2 goals, an assist and 2.6 tackles a game? Did anybody ever have him on their "Who should we sign wishlist?" Is he going to tear the Championship apart with Winks, Ndidi (new deal so not going anywhere)? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viva Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August 3 minutes ago, Ricey said: I think he's a good addition, it just doesn't stack up with everything we are hearing from the media regarding budgets and he doesn't address any of the gaping holes that we have within the squad. Also, why offer both Hamza and Ndidi new contracts recently only to then go and spend £25M on another defensive midfielder. It's just another decision to add to the pile of decisions that, on the face of it, point towards a football club incapable of joined up thinking. Hamza was a very useful player last season and was worth the contract for that alone. Ndidi is a decent squad player to have without having to pay a fee for him. The transfer window hasn’t shut yet either, so I’m sure the gaping holes will be filled. We desperately need another Premier League quality centre mid and hopefully Skipp will be that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August The other weakness we have if we go with a midfield of Skipp and Winks is the distinct lack of height in midfield. You ideally need to bolster your ability to attack and defend with a good amount of tall players. For that reason I can see Ndidi remaining 1st choice and then we're faced with the very real possibility of a midfield 3 of Ndidi, Winks and Skipp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August 5 minutes ago, Ricey said: I think he's a good addition, it just doesn't stack up with everything we are hearing from the media regarding budgets and he doesn't address any of the gaping holes that we have within the squad. Also, why offer both Hamza and Ndidi new contracts recently only to then go and spend £25M on another defensive midfielder. It's just another decision to add to the pile of decisions that, on the face of it, point towards a football club incapable of joined up thinking. With hamza it’s to enable us to get a fee rather than him walk out the door for nowt. With wilf, we clearly decided that to offer him new terms was cheaper than going out and finding the same player elsewhere - s/o fee probably around £4m. (Paid out over the length of his contract), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August Just now, Ric Flair said: The other weakness we have if we go with a midfield of Skipp and Winks is the distinct lack of height in midfield. You ideally need to bolster your ability to attack and defend with a good amount of tall players. For that reason I can see Ndidi remaining 1st choice and then we're faced with the very real possibility of a midfield 3 of Ndidi, Winks and Skipp. Well it will be competitive in there if nothing else ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August 4 minutes ago, Ricey said: I think he's a good addition, it just doesn't stack up with everything we are hearing from the media regarding budgets and he doesn't address any of the gaping holes that we have within the squad. Also, why offer both Hamza and Ndidi new contracts recently only to then go and spend £25M on another defensive midfielder. It's just another decision to add to the pile of decisions that, on the face of it, point towards a football club incapable of joined up thinking. Ndidi and Hamza make sense for different reasons. Ndidi needs no time to settle in, acclimatise etc. He’s good to go and is definitely a mid to lower half Prem player. If we go down, he becomes a saleable asset. If we go down, Hamza is a top half Championship player. This season, he’ll be a break glass in case of emergency player and if by some minor miracle we survive, he’ll be sold to a Championship club. For a change, these decisions to me look thought out and planned. Rudders is still a pure bellcheese though. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August 1 minute ago, Ric Flair said: The other weakness we have if we go with a midfield of Skipp and Winks is the distinct lack of height in midfield. You ideally need to bolster your ability to attack and defend with a good amount of tall players. For that reason I can see Ndidi remaining 1st choice and then we're faced with the very real possibility of a midfield 3 of Ndidi, Winks and Skipp. It can work, if you have good wide players, attacking full backs and a good CF. We need a good CF and an attacking LB, for me. We we went down, team consistently walked though the middle of the park, we need to stay in game and make them a battle and tight. I can see us playing the 3 against top 8 team in a 4-3-3 and dropping one and going 4-2-3-1 against weaker teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August Just now, coolhandfox said: It can work, if you have good wide players, attacking full backs and a good CF. We need a good CF and an attacking LB, for me. We we went down, team consistently walked though the middle of the park, we need to stay in game and make them a battle and tight. I can see us playing the 3 against top 8 team in a 4-3-3 and dropping one and going 4-2-3-1 against weaker teams. Winks will need to be braver on the ball if so. There was the ingredients of a player confident in the final third in his early 20's but he's eased off that mindset and you can tell. Would love it if he had one of those random seasons where he becomes a bagsman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesta2014 Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August 1 minute ago, Ric Flair said: Winks will need to be braver on the ball if so. There was the ingredients of a player confident in the final third in his early 20's but he's eased off that mindset and you can tell. Would love it if he had one of those random seasons where he becomes a bagsman Been a few training shots of him sticking it top corner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownboy93 Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August (edited) 10 minutes ago, Realist Guy In The Room said: Ndidi and Hamza make sense for different reasons. Ndidi needs no time to settle in, acclimatise etc. He’s good to go and is definitely a mid to lower half Prem player. If we go down, he becomes a saleable asset. If we go down, Hamza is a top half Championship player. This season, he’ll be a break glass in case of emergency player and if by some minor miracle we survive, he’ll be sold to a Championship club. For a change, these decisions to me look thought out and planned. Rudders is still a pure bellcheese though. a guy who was just a free agent and No one wanted him.. Edited 19 August by brownboy93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ClaphamFox Posted 19 August Popular Post Share Posted 19 August Signing Skipp makes total sense to me, for the following reasons: 1) We don't know whether Ndidi is up to the job any more. If he manages to rediscover his imperious 2017-21 form, fantastic - but we haven't seen that player for several years now. If we went into September and it became apparent that Wilf can't do it any more, our defence (which itself is questionable) would be horribly exposed. And even if Wilf does return to his best, his injury record suggests we will need cover. 2) Buying Skipp gives us he option of pushing Winks further forwards if necessary. 3) In games against the stronger teams where we're likely to have to defend for most of the game, a midfield of Winks, Ndidi and Skipp won't be a bad option to have. We always needed a new CDM. Whether Skipp is the right man remains to be seen, but the logic of strengthening in that position seems pretty clear. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Fox Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August 1 hour ago, Babylon said: I would say there are huge question marks over Ndidi, he's not been near the same player for three years now. Tbf I'm more concerned about the decision making behind giving a massively diminished Ndidi a new contract, than signing this lad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August 4 minutes ago, brownboy93 said: a guy who was just a free agent and No one wanted him.. He would have had offers no doubt. To think otherwise is only to promote bias. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy_Jeff Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August We need some solid performers. No point in us signing some creative players if the more defensive minded aren’t up for it. Some better protection in front of back four should hopefully give our attacking players more freedom. Not read any comments from Spurs fans saying they are happy he’s going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August 1 minute ago, Ric Flair said: Winks will need to be braver on the ball if so. There was the ingredients of a player confident in the final third in his early 20's but he's eased off that mindset and you can tell. Would love it if he had one of those random seasons where he becomes a bagsman I think he has the ability, to bring more goals and assists, I also think he can be the pre-assister more from higher up. I think it going to be a hard slog with some grinding out results, we can't afford to concede the amount of goal Luton (85), Burnley (78) and Sheff Utd did (104). I will judge this signing on the rest of the window, if we bring in decent options at CF, CAM and LB I will be ok with it. If we can't I will be grumpy. I think he makes us better, but we need the other part of the jigsaw. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LestaLad Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August Just watched an Oliver Skipp comp.. 25m is a bargain wtf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lineker's Left Foot Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August 5 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Signing Skipp makes total sense to me, for the following reasons: 1) We don't know whether Ndidi is up to the job any more. If he manages to rediscover his imperious 2017-21 form, fantastic - but we haven't seen that player for several years now. If we went into September and it became apparent that Wilf can't do it any more, our defence (which itself is questionable) would be horribly exposed. And even if Wilf does return to his best, his injury record suggests we will need cover. 2) Buying Skipp gives us he option of pushing Winks further forwards if necessary. 3) In games against the stronger teams where we're likely to have to defend for most of the game, a midfield of Winks, Ndidi and Skipp won't be a bad option to have. We always needed a new CDM. Whether Skipp is the right man remains to be seen, but the logic of strengthening in that position seems pretty clear. Plus I feel we’ll be utilising the wings a heck of a lot and that’s where our creativity will come from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August 20 minutes ago, Stadt said: Some are so desperate for signings they're rationalising it as a good one. He's obviously not a bad player but £20m (whether it's with add ons or not, presumable we pay them if we achieve what we need) but for that money we should be buying players that obviously improve us in areas we're weak. What does a good season look like for Skip? 2 goals, an assist and 2.6 tackles a game? Did anybody ever have him on their "Who should we sign wishlist?" Is he going to tear the Championship apart with Winks, Ndidi (new deal so not going anywhere)? To be fair he did get in the team of the year for Norwich last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfcsnow Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August 22 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: The other weakness we have if we go with a midfield of Skipp and Winks is the distinct lack of height in midfield. You ideally need to bolster your ability to attack and defend with a good amount of tall players. For that reason I can see Ndidi remaining 1st choice and then we're faced with the very real possibility of a midfield 3 of Ndidi, Winks and Skipp. I've looked through around 50 games where Winks and Skipp were both in the first team and they started together once (it was against us), so they didn't play together for a reason but you just know that will be our midfield three 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 19 August Share Posted 19 August 4 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said: I've looked through around 50 games where Winks and Skipp were both in the first team and they started together once (it was against us), so they didn't play together for a reason but you just know that will be our midfield three Winks, Skipp, Ndidi. We really do miss creativity because we aren't getting it from those three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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