US Presidential Election 2024

[leicsmac]

After a certain amount of shuffling about (mostly from Biden because you know, he's old), the stage is now set.

 

Harris/Walz vs Trump/Vance. The latter, at the present time, with a narrow lead in the betting markets, and polls make it pretty much a coin flip.

 

Can't help but feel that this is one of the most consequential US elections in terms of the effect it will have on the future in... well, ever.

[MPH]

13 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

After a certain amount of shuffling about (mostly from Biden because you know, he's old), the stage is now set.

 

Harris/Walz vs Trump/Vance. The latter, at the present time, with a narrow lead in the betting markets, and polls make it pretty much a coin flip.

 

Can't help but feel that this is one of the most consequential US elections in terms of the effect it will have on the future in... well, ever.

 

I’m wondering if the Dems may have positioned themselves a little to the left to win the swing votes.. we shall see.. Harris making some comments that could be taken as outright socialist and Walz appears to have opened himself  up to   Being misinterpreted as being a ‘ Chinese sympathizer’ having lived/ worked in China and commenting warmly about them in recent years…

 

This is an election year so even the Furr color of your cat will be turned against you..

Edited 7 August by MPH

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

I’m wondering if the Dems may have positioned themselves a little to the left to win the swing votes.. we shall see.. Harris making some comments that could be taken as outright socialist and Walz appears to have opened himself  up to   Being misinterpreted as being a ‘ Chinese sympathizer’ having lived/ worked in China and commenting warmly about them in recent years…

 

This is an election year so even the Furr color of your cat will be turned against you..

... and in a sane world, any association with January 6th 2021 would easily surpass all of that in terms of public distaste.

 

I guess with that considered, it will come down to just how sane a world we have.

Edited 7 August by leicsmac

[MPH]

1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

... and in a sane world, any association with January 6th 2021 would easily surpass all of that in terms of public distaste.

 

I guess with that considered, it will come down to just how sane a world we have.

 

I don’t know what else they have that they can fling at Trump? That they haven’t flung already…. 
 

i just don’t understand it all.

[MPH]

I’ve said previously that I believe the American constitution teaches a very selfish society and I believe that people like being a big powerful nation and people like it being a rich nation..

 

 

” we the people” what they really mean is “ me and my life”..

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, MPH said:

 

I don’t know what else they have that they can fling at Trump? That they haven’t flung already…. 
 

i just don’t understand it all.

Nor do I, but Harris becoming the nominee and Walz becoming VP has boosted the Dem odds, that's a matter of record.

 

Whether it's enough to actually win in November and how it all plays out I have no idea, but I do think they're giving themselves the best possible shot at it.

[leicsmac]

Just now, MPH said:

I’ve said previously that I believe the American constitution teaches a very selfish society and I believe that people like being a big powerful nation and people like it being a rich nation..

 

 

” we the people” what they really mean is “ me and my life”..

I agree, but then out there I also saw many examples of selflessness and community.

 

They need to tap into that more. For their own sake and for the sake of everyone else.

[MPH]

Just now, leicsmac said:

Nor do I, but Harris becoming the nominee and Walz becoming VP has boosted the Dem odds, that's a matter of record.

 

Whether it's enough to actually win in November and how it all plays out I have no idea, but I do think they're giving themselves the best possible shot at it.

 

sadly for Biden, and I do have some pity on him, it’s already proving the right decision to replace him.

[MPH]

2 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I agree, but then out there I also saw many examples of selflessness and community.

 

They need to tap into that more. For their own sake and for the sake of everyone else.

You’re right, there is some generosity within Americans..: but I still think it’s all ‘ on their terms’ rather than self sacrificing and for the good of the community.

Edited 7 August by MPH

[leicsmac]

Just now, MPH said:

You’re right, there is some generosity within Americans..: but I still think it’s all ‘ on their terms’ rather than self sacrificing and for the good of the community.

I agree, self interest is the guiding star. However, if that enlightened self interest can then be used as a tide to also raise all ships, then that's a solution to the problems that lie ahead as much as sole altruism would be.

 

And the efficiacy of the solution, rather than the method, is what's important imo.

[MPH]

Just now, leicsmac said:

I agree, self interest is the guiding star. However, if that enlightened self interest can then be used as a tide to also raise all ships, then that's a solution to the problems that lie ahead as much as sole altruism would be.

 

And the efficiacy of the solution, rather than the method, is what's important imo.

 

 I work in a team with 6 people. And when I have done my work for the day I’m constantly calling round to see who needs help and others do too and it just breeds such positivity and desire to be together  and love  and respect for each other.. it would be absolute utopia for me to pass that over into society, regardless of how much money was in my pocket.. 

 

 

but anyway, I’m digressing!

[jgtuk]

Just now, MPH said:

 

 I work in a team with 6 people. And when I have done my work for the day I’m constantly calling round to see who needs help and others do too and it just breeds such positivity and desire to be together  and love  and respect for each other.. it would be absolute utopia for me to pass that over into society, regardless of how much money was in my pocket.. 

 

 

but anyway, I’m digressing!

Sounds like some kind of bloody socialism to me 

 

[MPH]

17 minutes ago, jgtuk said:

Sounds like some kind of bloody socialism to me 

 

 

haha, I definitely feel like it’s easier to meet the needs of the people  with a free market economy( not capitalism  exactly) and that the emphasis should come from the people and not the government of that helps at all ..

 

but now we are getting into the realms of unrealistic idealism, maybe..lol

Edited 7 August by MPH

[bovril]

real vibe shift in the last week or so

[jgtuk]

I think they’ve played their best hand. 
Lets hope it pays off. 

[Leicesterpool]

It's a tough call for me.....

 

 

One president can stand up to terriorists

One president can stand up to aliens

One president can stand up to asteroid 

[Zear0]

23 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said:

It's a tough call for me.....

 

 

One president can stand up to terriorists

One president can stand up to aliens

One president can stand up to asteroid 

In my most pedantic moment here, can I just say it was a comet... 

[Leicesterpool]

Just now, Zear0 said:

In my most pedantic moment here, can I just say it was a comet... 

I've never seen it  what ever it was it caused big bang. 

[Torquay Gunner]

Vance today apparently called Putin ‘ a tinpot dictator’.  Daddy Trump won’t be happy. 

[MPH]

To be fair, this is a bit of a boss move…

 

( aka a certain part of  the male anatomy move..)

 

 

[Torquay Gunner]

12 minutes ago, MPH said:

To be fair, this is a bit of a boss move…

 

( aka a certain part of  the male anatomy move..)

 

 

I just can’t get past Vance’s guyliner! 😂

[MPH]

15 minutes ago, Torquay Gunner said:

I just can’t get past Vance’s guyliner! 😂

 He’s an interesting character, that’s for sure..

[Jon the Hat]

It is hard to see Trump and Vance actually liking each other.  I wouldn't be surprised if they had a major falling out tbh.

[Daggers]

13 hours ago, leicsmac said:

... and in a sane world, any association with January 6th 2021 would easily surpass all of that in terms of public distaste.

 

I guess with that considered, it will come down to just how sane a world we have.

Not to mention the:

• Lies
• Rapes
• Sexual assaults
• Golden showers
• Corprophilia 
• Russians
• Mail order bride
• ...And all of the rest of the stuff that good Christians do

[leicsmac]

5 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

It is hard to see Trump and Vance actually liking each other.  I wouldn't be surprised if they had a major falling out tbh.

If they do lose in November, I expect their respective egos will take over and they'll blame each other.